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- From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
- Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! :)
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- Date: 30 Dec 1992 14:13:17 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec29.205556.10155@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
- > Incorrect, Jay. Microsoft doesn't "force" manufacturers to
- >sell machines with Windows and DOS preloaded. We offer an extremely
- >competitive contract that specifies that royalties are paid on
- >all machines shipped - we also offer another contract that pays
- >roaylties on a per OS copy shipped, at a higher price per copy.
- > I realize that you were just trying to flame, but at least
- >get your facts straight.
-
- They are straight. The difference in cost, if it is anywhere near as
- substantial as others on this group have led me to believe, _is_ force. If
- you're going to charge me more money for the privilege of not bundling DOS and
- Windows with every machine I sell, then you're forcing me to do so. This is
- predatory pricing at its worst.
-
- >> they use undocumented OS calls in their apps,
- > Please explain why this is unfair.
-
- Do you think it's fair for MS to break its own rules in order to gain an
- advantage over competitors who follow them? This puts your competition in a
- difficult spot: either break the rules in the same way, and risk having your
- software break with the next release of Windows, or do you stick to published
- interfaces, and give away some performance?
-
- >> and they remove features from their development tools just to hinder a
- >>competing OS.
- > Does Microsoft now have an obligation to support every competing
- >operating system in our compiler tools?
-
- No, but it does have an obligation to those who bought, for example, MSC 7 to
- do OS/2 development on as an upgrade to MSC 6, which had that capability...
-
- >> Sure sounds like they're playing fair to me.
- > Jay, if the FTC issued a statement tomorrow that said "Microsoft
- >is absolutely playing fair - we've investigated them inside and out,
- >and found nothing wrong," would you believe it? Or would you
- >continue with your foundationaless anti-MS propaganda?
-
- Show me any "foundationless anti-MS propaganda". Your examples above aren't.
-
- If the FTC were to say that, and were to back it up, then I'd have to take
- another look. As it stands, though, it looks like the FTC is, instead, going
- straight to court - an action they very, very seldom take, and only if they
- find really egregious violations and a company completely unwilling to do
- anything about them.
- --
- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
- jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity.
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