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- From: wlw@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Will Walker)
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:54:57 GMT
- Subject: Re: Alpha Architecture Quirks
- Message-ID: <8840087@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
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- Newsgroups: comp.arch
- References: <1992Dec14.072942.21962@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
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- In comp.arch, jfc@grouse.dsg.dec.com (John F Carr) writes:
-
- > In article <1992Dec14.072942.21962@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
- > keiths@cae.wisc.edu (Keith Scidmore) writes:
- >
- > >1) I read that the 21064 divide unit is not pipelined and takes one cycle
- > > per bit to produce a result. Isn't this going to kill floating point
- > > performance? [...] I'm
- > > lead to think that DEC isn't interested in the FP performance of this chip,
- > > or do I have my facts wrong?
- >
- > A double precision floating point divide is slow, but look at the benchmark
- > results: the Alpha AXP 10000 is rated at 200 SPECfp92. If you buy the
- > low-end model you get 112 SPECfp92. Obviously divide performance isn't
- > critical to this large selection of real-world applications.
-
- Quite right, SPECfp92 is not very sensitive to divide or square root
- latency. Which applications are? Possibly 3D graphics. Perhaps Mr.
- Scidmore's applications are sensitive to divide latency since he
- brought it up? I don't know.
-
- > In any case, considering the clock speed difference between Alpha AXP and
- > competitive systems you are better off counting nanoseconds instead of
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- That's right, you should compare latencies in nanoseconds, not cycles.
- I'll add an HP machine to your table.
-
- > DEC Alpha AXP IBM RS 6000
- > 133 Mhz 150 Mhz 41 Mhz 62.5 Mhz
- > cycles ns ns cycles ns ns
- > FP mult or add 6 45 40 2 48 32
- > FP divide 63 473 420 20 480 320
-
- HP 735
- 100 MHz
- cycles ns
- FP mult or add 2 20
- FP divide 15 150
-
-
- - Will Walker
- my own opinions
-