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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 11:46:00 EST
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- From: "Peter J. Schledorn" <UNCPJS@UNC.OIT.UNC.EDU>
- Subject: Re: Home ownership among the poor es
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- > >Can you provide some meaningful stats that will show that a significant
- > >amount of money appropriated by congress to be paid as income support
- > >is being diverted by agencies to other purposes? (By this I mean are
- > >agencies using targetted funds for things in-house other than for which
- > >they were intended, salaries, supplies, office redecoration, etc.)
- >
- > Of course not, no one keeps stats like that, or issues reports on how
- > much they diverted :).
- >
- > However, you can look at
- >
- > 1) The increase in bureaucrats per recipient
- > 2) Wether the problem is being alieviated
- > 3) How much fraud, waste and abuse is found eventually
- >
- > Given that an audit of 15 hospitals yielded $42 million in fraud, I
- > think there's considerable reason to suspect the amount being wasted/misused i
- > in the billions.
-
- I've already noted that this "fraud" might be an illusion. I have also
- read studies that report that actual cases of welfare "fraud" are not
- any greater (in proportion) than other cases of financial dishonesty,
- such as diddling your income taxes, working or hiring people off the
- books, reporting the wrong sale price on a private car sale to lower
- the sales tax, and the like (in fact, NC recently went to charging sales
- tax on used cars according to the book value, not the reported price).
-
- Now as for bureaucrats per recipient, my guess is that any actual
- increase can be attributed to increased eligibility checking, not waste
- and inefficiency. In fact, most of the information I have read points
- to increasing caseloads for caseworkers.
-
- Your second question brings up an interesting question of intent. I
- have already noted that the present system isn't really intended to
- provide a cure, just symptomatic relief. At that it does a moderately
- good job.
-
- Best,
- Peter
-
- > >-other Andy
- >
- > Brett'
-