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- From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
- Subject: The Sarfatti Papers 4
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- Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:57:05 GMT
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- reposted from sci.physics
- End of article 14895 (of 14895)--what next? [npq] Article 14894 (329 more)
- in sci.physics:
- From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
- Subject: Professionalism
- Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:32:47 GMT
-
-
- I deliberately did not post The Gladstone Report on this conference as it is
- more appropriate to
- other conferences since it is more than physics - it is
- literature, politics - the Glass Bead Game. McInnes seemed compelled to post
- it here. All the historical facts asserted in it are true - including my
- weird experience as a kid in 1952 with the metallic voice claiming to be a
- computer on a spacecraft from the future. My childhood friend Al Brough of
- the New York Police Department Homocide DIvision (Snyder St Station) may
- well remember it as he was in my apartment within minutes of that call.
- Exactly, what the call was is anybody's guess - if it was not what it
- claimed to be then it was some adult messing with a 12 year old's mind - but
- the interesting coincidence is how it ties into the Uri Geller caper twenty
- years or more later including the Puthoff remote viewing experiments at SRI
- including an incident with the late Brendan O Regan, Barbara Honneger (of
- October Surprise fame) and the alleged psychic - not Geller, not Pat Price,
- his name escapes me for the moment - in which the cold metallic voice
- appeared again claiming to be a computer on board a space-craft from the
- future- not to mention Andrija Puharich's written accounts of such stuff and
- the Jenny and the Nine incidents at Esalen during the visits of the Soviet
- Elite before the fall of the old-line Soviet Regime. In the Alice and
- Wonderland world of covert intelligence these things may all be connected in
- a very meaningful way. But this is not the proper subject matter of this
- conference - important and interesting though it might be.
-
- Paul your remark
-
- "Arguing with Jack Sarfatti is a bit like shoveling manure in a barn
- full of horses. No matter how much you shovel today there will be just
- as much to shovel tomorrow. It is not that Jack is unintelligent or does
- not know physics. It is just that he is extremely careless. He seems to
- confuse lack of scientific discipline with scientific adventurousness.
- They are not the same thing. Scientific adventurousness is impossible
- without scientific discipline."
-
- is not calculated to evoke a cool rational response. I will answer you in
- detail later - but you are covering up your basic confusion. True one needed
- to change relative polarizer settings to see the (cos@)^2/2 correlation
- which violated Bell's inequality - but you do not have to do it as a
- dynamical process in time. It is enough to do what Aspect dis - switch the
- polarizer orientations in a time short compared to flight times of each
- photon in pair from source to polarizer-detector to ensure a space-like
- interval between both measurements of each photon in same pair. Your delay
- corresponding to time it takes one of the photons to move from its polarizer
- to its detector is not important. If you looked at my diagram you would see
- what I mean - maybe. I still say you are dealing with an illusion. More
- later when I read your latest post in detail.
- Article 14895 (328 more) in sci.physics:
- From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
- Subject: re:Professionalism
- Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:43:31 GMT
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-
- Oh yes, I remember the name of the psychic being tested by Brendan O Regan
- in Puthoff and Targ's SRI laboratory was Ingo Swann. I think he is referred
- to in the book on UFOs OUT THERE by Blum (?) the NY TIMES reporter - the
- chapter in
- which Ingo remote views Soviet submarines for high level defense officials.
-
- O Regan worked for Astronaut Edgar Mitchell at Noetics Institute which
- provided funds to SRI. O Regan asked Swann to remote view the future when
- Swann, a trance medium, started to speak in a cold metallic voice repeating
- the same sort of stuff I heard as a kid in Brooklyn years earlier in 1952-
- the SRI incident was in mid 70's. This particular story was told to me by
- Barbara Honneger befoe she went to the Reagan White House with the guy from
- Hoover Martin Anderson who was domestic policy advisor. Honneger (Honegger
- sp?)
- at the time was working for Toy manufacturer Henry Dakin who was funding
- Michael Murphy's
- work on sports and psi - see his recent book. Both Dakin and Murphy are
- active in Gorbachev Foundation USA today at a very high level. It's
- interesting that their group also brought Boris Yeltsin to US before he was
- elected President of Russia- strange connections indeed! All true - check it
- out boys and girls!
-
-