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- From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
- Subject: Re: Working with Women vs. Working with Men
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.010749.21597@wam.umd.edu>
- Summary: stupid people forge posts
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- References: <1992Dec23.190432.29510@cs.cornell.edu> <1992Dec23.203358.7692@wam.umd.edu> <ZEN.92Dec23161814@death.corp.sun.com>
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- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:07:49 GMT
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- In article <ZEN.92Dec23161814@death.corp.sun.com> zen@death.corp.sun.com (d) writes:
-
-
- And now the real loser flames start to come into the newsgroup.
-
-
- >In article <1992Dec23.203358.7692@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec23.190432.29510@cs.cornell.edu> jean@cs.cornell.edu (Jean M. Petrosino) writes:
- >> >When in doubt, quote the superiority of capitalism and Darwin's
- >> >survival of the fittest theory.
- >> It works. That's a lot more than I can say for alternative
- >> theories.
- >
- > So you're saying that if I come up to you and blow you away with a
- >shotgun, then you were just unfit to live (survival of the fittest and
- >all, ya know)?
-
-
- Something that so many of the toddlers who run around
- thinking they're bright tend to miss: human beings can
- reason.
-
- The interesting thing about this is that one of the first
- thing those with any kind of guts learn is that
- _there is always someone bigger_. The real cowards on
- the playground, who grow up to be cowardly adults, never manage
- to learn this and therefor are unable to reason beyond their
- immediate circumstances.
-
- To illustrate: I can understand that it it not *in my own
- best interest* to actively eliminate those who irritate me.
- How can this be? Obviously, I get many direct benefits from
- their elimination. This is as far as simpletons, like the
- poster who forged at sun.com, manage to go.
-
- Not that it's bad--hey, there's nothing *bad* about being
- average or below average--somebody has to be--but I digress.
-
- What Mr. Zen fails to understand is that engaging in such behavior
- is *not* _really_ darwinistic because it opens the playing
- field --for that kind of behavior--to all of my competitors.
- Which is virtually committing suicide.
-
- Alas, you can't help the stupid.
-
-
- >*You* may call that working, but not me (well, if it
- >happened to you, I might make an exception),
-
- Ho-ho, and s/he tries to be funny. What's the matter,
- I hit a little cord with the darwinism? What, are you one
- of the failures of society? A loser who seeks externals
- to blame?
-
- Ah well, probably just one of thos pathetic socialism-groupies
- that feels downtrodden since the rest of the world is rapidly
- discarding the ideals they held so highly.
-
-
- >at least, not as a viable
- >ethical and/or human solution.
-
-
- It doesn't work because it violates the very principles
- that are at the core of human beings. The biggest one is
- self-preservation. Human beings (well, except defectives)
- can *reason*, and reason will tell them that such behavior
- poses infinately more risks than benefits.
-
-
- >Of course, if morals/ethics don't matter
- >to you, alt.feminism might not be where you belong...
-
-
- Morals and ethics have no place here--feminists are primarily
- concerned with blame.
-
-
- >of course, this
- >planet might not be either...
-
-
- <sigh> I heard flames of this quality back in the 4th grade.
- Just confirmin' my estimation of your faculties.
-
-
- > But I'd say that pure capitalism and darwinism work about as well in
- >practice as pure communism and dworkinism.
-
-
- They work quite well, thank you. Nothing mankind has ever come up with
- has worked anywhere near as well at fufilling the needs of the people
- than capitalism and democracy.
-
- Darwinism, well, that provided us with our bodies, our intellects,
- and our culture.
-
- As for communism, it does work--it works amazingly well. For
- insects.
-
- Dworkinism? Andrea Dworkin is insane. I don't think any rational
- person considers her anything but insane or demented. It's interesting
- that you bring her up.
-
- --
- "If you can't eat sand, why the hell are you living in a desert?"
- Equality is a delusion.
- Rule 1: "Don't have more children than you can feed."
- Buy American as if your job depended on it.
-