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- Subject: Re: Alleged shortage of mathematicians (was Re: M
- Message-ID: <1992Dec18.142514.18675@husc3.harvard.edu>
- From: kubo@kovalevskaia.harvard.edu (Tal Kubo)
- Date: 18 Dec 92 14:25:13 EST
- References: <1413@kepler1.rentec.com> <1992Dec17.001527.18598@husc3.harvard.edu> <1992Dec17.183124.10150@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
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- In article <1992Dec17.183124.10150@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
- mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec17.001527.18598@husc3.harvard.edu>
- kubo@boucher.harvard.edu (Tal Kubo) writes:
- >> [academia ahead of industry in chemistry]
- >
- > I think you had better drop this example and think up another one.
- > [+ opposing view from practicing chemist]
-
- All right. I'd rather not get entangled here in a discussion of industrial
- vs. academic chemistry. It might be of interest on sci.chem, though.
-
- >>Publications aside, I see this as part of a more general problem with
- >>private employment, where you miss out on a lot of opportunities to meet
- >>people outside your own backyard. The mechanisms for doing so are much
- >>better developed in academia (visiting scholars, colloquia, sabbatical
- >>leave, conferences, travel grants, etc). Employers are gradually becoming
- >>more enlightened in this respect, though.
- >
- > You must not go to the right conferences. At SIAM conferences, a
- >large proportion of the participants and an even larger proportion of
- >the general attendance consists of industrial mathematicians. This was
- >true even at the recent Conference on Dynamical Systems, a field which
- >shows much promise but is hardly a mainstay of industrial mathematics at
- >this point.
-
- I didn't say there are no means of professional contact, just that these
- are better developed in academia. How easy would it be for someone in
- industry to spend a sabbatical year working at a rival firm, for example?
-
- > Since I'm not a mathematician, it's difficult for me to comment
- >with any authority on this matter, but doesn't the very existence of
- >SIAM shed some doubt on this part of your argument? SIAM is supported
- >in part by direct corporate sponsorships. Some companies clearly
- >think that fostering contacts among industrial mathematicians is
- >important.
-
- This is part of the aforementioned partial enlightenment among
- certain employers. But in general it doesn't go far enough.
-
- -Tal kubo@math.harvard.edu
-