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- From: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
- Subject: Re: nonstandard analysis
- In-Reply-To: columbus@strident.think.com's message of 10 Dec 92 09:21:45
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- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:51:26 GMT
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- In article <COLUMBUS.92Dec10092145@strident.think.com> columbus@strident.think.com (Michael Weiss) writes:
-
- Nonstandard analysis led to the first proof of the theorem on polynomially
- compact operators, since reproved by standard techniques. I'm curious---
- any other comparable success stories in recent years?
-
-
- Caterina Kiefe and I proved some time ago that with respect to a certain
- language, Ax's theory of pseudofinite fields (ie. the infinite models of
- the theory of finite fields) is the model completion of the theory of
- procyclic fields. One of the key elements of the proof was carried out
- by adapting Abraham Robinson's method of defining the Krull topology
- on the Galois group of an infinite normal extension using nonstandard
- analysis.
-
- I think the term "nonstandard analysis" is overworked. The
- entire theory belongs in the context of saturated models, including
- ultraproducts and it is not really natural to separate it from that
- context. Don't just study nonstandard analysis, study logic and model
- theory. And instead of asking what we can do with nonstandard analysis,
- ask what are the applications of logic and model theory to other
- parts of mathematics and vice versa.
-
- Another application was a theorem of Lenore Blum and myself, in which
- we proved that a differentially closed differential field has no
- strongly normal extensions. In this case, we had to use ultraproducts,
- since the argument was not apparent using only saturated models.
-
- Something that has the flavor of nonstandard analysis in some respects
- is the book Synthetic Differential Geometry, by Anders Kock. He
- begins the book by talking about R, which is supposed to be the real
- numbers, at least in spirit, but which he describes as a ring. And
- he introduces an axiom about R, which I hope I am remembering correctly:
-
- Axiom: Let D denote the set of elements x of R such that x^2=0.
- Let f:D-->R be any function. Then there are unique elements a,b
- of R such that f(d)=ad+b for all d in D.
-
- D is like the monad of zero and the above axiom gives a way of looking
- at any function from R to itself as looking like a linear function in the
- monad of any point.
-
- It is wonderful to be able to differntiate all functions in this way.
-
- The only trouble is that one can easily prove that there is no such
- ring, by taking the function f to be f(d) = 0 if d=0 and =1 if d is
- not equal to 0. The condition that a,b are unique implies that D has
- elements other 0, then a.0+b=0 implies b=0 and then a.d=1 for d a nonzero
- element of D yields a contradiction.
-
- Kock notes, however, that the only reason the proof works is that we
- used the law of the excluded middle. If we do not accept the law
- of the excluded middle, we cannot prove there is no such ring,
- he claims.
-
- To support this claim, he constructs a model of intuitionistic set
- theory (alias an elementary topos) in which there is a ring object R
- in which the axiom is true. He also embeds the category of manifolds
- in such a topos and shows that one can prove theorems in differntial
- geometry by working in this topos.
-
- Nice book.
-
- Allan Adler
- ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
-