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- Subject: Re: 486 vs. Mac Benchmarks
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- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:51:40 GMT
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- In <1992Dec17.224200.22219@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, Michael C Merrifield writes:
-
- >Anyone seen the Motorola adds about an Ingram Laboratory performance study?
- >Look on page 22 & 23 of the July 92 issue of Byte, for example.
-
- Fine. A Motorola ad. They'll certainly give us an unbiased benchmark. What
- if the ads were produced by Intel? Certainly they'd cook the books and run
- other tests with differently configured '040 and 486 systems which would make
- the 486 look like the blazer.
-
- The tests probably aren't falsified, but should be taken with a grain of salt
- since the people promoting the test results are certainly not unbiased.
-
- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- > "Recent Studies Reveal 25MHz Is Now Faster Than 50MHz"
-
- >"Ingram Benchmark Results, March 1992 - 25 and 33 MHz 040 Macintosh Quadra
- >Outruns the 486 at 33 and 50 MHz."
-
- >"This revelation is brought to you by the Apple Macintosh and the Motorola
- >68040." The add goes on to say that Ingram Labs (an independent PC testing
- >firm) compared the newest 040 Macs (Quadra 950 and 700) to several of the
- >quickest 486 Windows PCs running the most popular applications for both
- >Macintosh and Windows 3.0 (such as Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Wingz, PageMaker,
- >Persuasion and Illustrator) and measured the performance of "real world
- >functions" (such as opening a file, scrolling, running a macro, performing
- >calculations, etc.).
-
- >The results are shown below...
-
- >* Performance Index
- >0------1------2------3------4------5------6------7------8------9------10
-
- >33MHz 040
- >Mac Quadra 950 ----------------------------------------------------9.7
-
- >25MHz 040
- >Mac Quadra 700 ---------------------------------------------------9.3
-
- >ALR Business Veisa
- >486/50 -------------------------------------------------8.1
-
- >Compaq Deskpro
- >486/33 -------------------------------------6.5
-
- >IBM PS/2 95 XP
- >486/33 ------------------------------------6.2
-
- >DELL 433P
- >486/33 ---------------------------------5.9
-
- >* "Performance Index is the measured result relative to the slowest machine
- > tested (a 286-based IBM PS/1 running Windows). For example, Mac Quadra 950
- > is 9.7 times faster than the Performance Index; the Dell 433P is 5.9 times
- > faster."
-
- Fine. I'll address configurations later. But for now, let's say that the
- Quadra 950 is at 9.7 and the ALR 486/50 is at 8.1. I'll bet that on a
- price/performance scale, the 486 still gives more bang for the buck. Until
- Macs are cloned, it will probably remain that way.
-
- >No surprise, really. Macintosh and its graphical user interface were designed
- >from the start around the 68000's true 32-bit architecture. Naturally, it
- >outperforms computers powered by an extended 8-bit architecture running a
- >character-based operating system with a tacked-on GUI."
-
- How are the 486 systems configured? Less than 4 MB of RAM? Cheap video?
- No disk caching? No external cache? Windows would positively SUCK on any
- processor without any of the goodies specified above.
-
- Before I can accept this conclusion, I need to see how the systems were
- configured. I'm not surprised that a 486 would be slower if it had 2 MB of
- memory, cheap video and no external or disk caches enabled. A 386/40 with
- 16 MB, 24X video, 4 MB disk cache and a 256K external cache might almost be
- faster than a 486 with very little additional support. Let's compare a $5,000
- Mac system to a $5,000 486 system. Or a $2,500 486 system with a $2,500 Mac
- system (if there is such a thing as a $2,500 Mac system).
-
- All I'm saying is that they don't mention if the configurations and peripherals
- are comparable in the Macs and the PCs they tested. And there's more to the
- world than just Windows.
-
- >This is not another "closed minded" Mac user's attempt to save the world
- >from the wages of PC use. Certainly IBM/clones have a niche in the world of
- >personal computing. My intent is to point out that if you want a high
- >performance graphical computer, I think the Macintosh is the way to go.
-
- Well, at least you said "I think," and admitted that there is a place for PC
- clones, which makes you a rarity among Mac advocates.
-
-
- Tim Irvin
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