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- Path: sparky!uunet!bigmax!folsom
- From: folsom@bigmax.UUCP (Al Folsom)
- Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
- Subject: Re: EXECUTION of DECUS Standards
- Summary: L&T Procedures
- Message-ID: <576@bigmax.UUCP>
- Date: 16 Dec 92 14:04:14 GMT
- References: <1992Dec2.143046.1@mscf.med.upenn.edu> <1992Dec15.192557.13119@cpu.com>
- Distribution: usa
- Organization: Fischer & Porter Co., Warminster, PA.
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- In article <1992Dec15.192557.13119@cpu.com>, gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester) writes:
- >
- > It might avoid some confusion, but the statement is **WRONG**!!
- > At least the L&T and 3P SIG chairs are elected by the general membership at
- > their respective Open SIG Steering Committe meetings members (not restricted
- > to leaders) present. I believe that L&T does put a restriction that DEC
- > employees can not vote, but I'm not sure.
-
- I cannot speak for 3P, but L&T most definately does not elect SIG
- chairs. Our Policies and Procedures, both the current ones, and the
- version now under review, do not even mention voting. SIG chairs
- are, in actuality, "nominated" by the outgoing SIG chair, and
- confirmed by the Executive Committee. Changes are reached by
- concensus, with votes of any sort being extremely rare. To as great
- an extent as possible, L&T maintains a huge steering committee, and
- subject to budget constraints, keeps as many of them involved in
- SIG affairs as possible.
-
- Note that I fully support this mechanism, I am not in any way
- criticizing it. As long as it is easy to volunteer your time to
- the SIG, and access to the steering committee is open, it produces
- a smoother operation, and tends to discourage DECUS politicians, as
- opposed to actual workers, from trying to control the SIG.
-
- The mechanism does, however, at least present the appearance of a
- less representative democracy in SIG Council and the MC.
-
- > >
- > >Maybe I'm a minority, but the newsletters were my one regular contact with the
- > >society. And what I read the most were the standards reports. I will miss both.
- > >Now I hardly feel like I have a connection to DECUS. (Now would be a bad time to
- > >ask me to pay money, btw, to comment on another issue being discussed, unless I
- > >got some new product in return.) And I'm more connected to DECUS than
- > >somepeople, as I am a volunteer (I manage VMSnet).
- > >
- >
- > You are very much a minority. The news letter subscription was about
- > 2% of the membership and a good number of subscribers had/have either or both
- > DECUServe or DCS accounts.
- >
-
- Several people have expressed their concern to me over the demise
- of the newsletter. 2% of the membership is *roughly* 1000 subscribers,
- which is very low, but many of those subscribers really wanted it.
- They HAD to, to fight through all the barriers we put in their way to
- maintaining their subscriptions! DECUS killed the newsletters, but
- not in one swell foop this past fall, but gradually over the last
- five years through poor marketing, bad renewal policies, and lack
- of support.
-
- Al Folsom
- L&T Newsletter Editor-In-Exile
-
-