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- From: M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
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- Subject: Typewriter mode lockup
- Message-ID: <3598.9212161742@amory>
- Date: 16 Dec 92 17:42:44 GMT
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- I have just inserted some text on a form by using typewriter mode. The
- PC sent it to the printer alright, but then locked up. Twice.
-
- Has anyone else had this experience?
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- I want to be frank; I mean no harm, but I'd like to know the
- experience and views of others and I want to say what's on my mind.
-
- I think that a package can and should be pretty close to perfect in
- the sense that no command or feature it offers should fail in normal
- use; and "normal" may be pretty exotic - someone may want, for
- example, to index a mailmerge file.... I know this example well - I
- did it with NB3 and I'm proud of the book that emerged. The system was
- not designed for the purpose, but it did it. I'm sure we can all
- think of equally grisly tasks we've asked NB to do successfully, and
- if the designers heard of them they'd wince. They are typical of the
- imaginative sort of thing that a bunch of academics can think up to
- cope with the problems of under-funding (making a package you have do
- what one you don't want to buy is designed to do) and esoteric needs.
- When the package is essentially a good one, one expects reliability at
- every point; and when you throw in something like XPL programming,
- then the designers must expect people to really push it hard.
-
- I cannot accept the "deprovements" (was that the word?) in silence. I
- LIKE THE DESIGN OF V. 4; but I don't think there is such a thing as a
- buglet or even a midge: if I once could but now can't put a string of
- hard spaces on the action line, I have a problem; if I have to use two
- keystrokes to find a label when I used one, I have a problem (it's an
- absolute mess on a laptop, because one has to use the Fn key to turn
- the number-pad on); if it crashes when I use typewriter mode when once
- it didn't, I have a problem; if I can't write to nbcustom.set __every
- time__ I have a problem; if it's more complicated (when once it was
- simple) to upper-case or lower-case or capitalise, then I have a
- problem. There are so many lovely new features in v. 4; but why has
- NBI made changes which are not improvements? I can accept an
- explanation to the effect that things like not getting a string of
- spaces to the action line will be set right when the fix disks come
- round - I can see this as an "oooh, errr... we goofed there - sorry
- folks!" situation; but this is not the case with, for example, a
- decision to change simple key designations for more complex ones.
-
- I have been using NB for - oh, I can't recall. Ten years?? What was
- the date of v. 1? I can't find the disks any more (five 5.25" 360K
- floppies, to give an idea how the size of the package has increased).
- I was one of the very first at this university to use NB v. 1, and we
- were probably the first users in the UK; and I've been through v.2, v.
- 3 and v. 3.1 (which latter gave me some skinned knuckles). This is
- the first time I respond with unease and doubts to a new version.
- Previously, new versions were unqualified improvements; now I find
- myself mourning the loss of features.
-
- Fellow Notabeneri, I am uneasy.
-
- The Great Dragonfly has served me well in the past; but can I now urge
- my hesitating colleagues, users of WP mostly, to spend departmental
- money on v. 4 when those who are using v. 3 don't have such problems
- as I read about and encounter myself?
-
- Am I alone? One thing which makes me hestitate is the way in which so
- many people whom I will quite possibly never see have, with humour,
- skill, and resourcefulness helped me so often. They prove the quality
- of v. 3, because they were showing how the package could be made to
- extend itself. When those same people try to do the same with v. 4, I
- feel I might be the odd man out....
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- Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
- Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
- Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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