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- Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystroke monitoring
- Message-ID: <1992Dec12.064534.3499@nic.csu.net>
- From: oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu
- Date: 12 Dec 92 06:45:33 PST
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- In article <e6TZ03sdc2.200@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> grjost@uts.amdahl.com (Garrett Jost) writes:
- >oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu writes:
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- >>In article <q50qgdg@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
- >>>strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
- >>>
- >>>>The notion that people should be warned about monitoring, when it
- >>>>is done legally, is a fundamental civil liberties notion. It is
- >>>>in the same class as "fair warnings" of many other kinds.
- >>>
- >>>Damn straight. If Jerk-eeee doesn't want his keystrokes monitored, his
- >>>option is to own his own machine. If he is a guest on someone else's machine
- >>>or is on his employer's or institution's machine, he plays by their
- >>>rules or does not play. Nothing difficult to understand about that.
- >>>
- >
- >>Huh? If I work for company X, X automatically has full rights to read
- >>my mail or search my home? Or maybe only if it officially warns me
- >>about this on it's front entrance? :).
- >
- >Maybe his e-mail, but not his home. John was saying that anything that
- >you use that is owned by your company may be monitored by them. Hey, my
- >company did not say when I hired in that I can e-mail all my friends and
- >expect 100% privacy. It's their computers: they can do what they want,
- >and if I don't like it, then I don't use their machines!
- >
- >They also have the right to search my office, since it's actually theirs!
- >But they don't have the right to search my apartment: it's mine.
- >
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- So, since mail system is owned by state, it's Ok for state to read my paper
- mail without any reason as well ;-)
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- Oleg
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