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  3. From: spurrett@superbowl.und.ac.za (David Spurrett)
  4. Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc,sci.philosophy.tech
  5. Subject: Re: FREE WILL 2: Neither a Determinist nor an Indeterminist be.
  6. Message-ID: <spurrett.56.722363066@superbowl.und.ac.za>
  7. Date: 21 Nov 92 16:24:26 GMT
  8. Article-I.D.: superbow.spurrett.56.722363066
  9. References: <spurrett.37.721583229@superbowl.und.ac.za> <spurrett.50.722073674@superbowl.und.ac.za> <1992Nov18.175136.9373@guinness.idbsu.edu>
  10. Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
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  14. In article <1992Nov18.175136.9373@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
  15.  
  16. (1)
  17. >Physical objects are (complexes of) events and have causes.
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  19. What do events happen to unless there are some `things' in the world?
  20. What do they happen with for that matter?  Are you saying that there
  21. are no `things' at all?  (Independent of their reduction to the flow
  22. of events, that is.)
  23.  
  24. (2)
  25. >This is re Spurrett's attempt to use causation by things to avoid
  26. >determinism.
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  28. I think that this description is slightly misleading.  I find that
  29. determinism is unequal to the task of describing/explaining certain
  30. feautres of the world, and look for an ontology which does.  I am not
  31. attempting to `avoid' anything, but rejecting a defined thesis with
  32. clear reasons.
  33.  
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  35. | David Spurrett, Department of Philosophy |  `I have seen the truth, and |
  36. | University of Natal, Durban              |   it makes no sense.'        |
  37. | email: spurrett@superbowl.und.ac.za      |              - OFFICIAL!     |
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  39.