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- From: johno@sdd.hp.com (John Ongtooguk)
- Newsgroups: rec.photo
- Subject: Re: Resolution of Lens ???
- Date: 20 Nov 1992 20:55:49 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov20.182843.11017@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins) writes:
- |>
- |> Taking the observation that I can get no more than about 80 lp/mm from
- |> my diffraction limited f5 lens on Velvia as a starting point:
- |> (1) The USAF target requires about 20% modulation to be "resolved" in an
- |> image according to an old copy of "Modern Photography"
- |> (2) The MTF curve of Velvia (from Fuji literature) suggests that the MTF
- |> at 80 cyc/mm is MAYBE 25% (from an optimistic extrapolation of their data
- |> which only goes to about 60 cycles/mm).
- |> (3) At 80 cycles/mm the MTF of a perfect f5 lens is about 70%
- |>
- |> The modulation in the image is the product of the MTF of the film and the
- |> MTF of the lens, so at 80 cycles/mm = .25 x .7 = .175 (17.5%) which is
- |> right on the threashold of visibility.
-
- Isn't Fuji claiming 160 lp/mm for Velvia ? 80 lp/mm is what I usually
- hear being the accepted limit for high quality 35mm color images and
- it seems to be the case per your tests. 160 lp/mm also seems kind of
- high as while people agree that it is finer grained than Kodachrome 25
- which is rated at 100 lp/mm some have stated that the Kodachrome 'edge
- definition' can still produce as much detail in an image.
-
- It still seems that you should be able to get more than 100 lp/mm
- with your 500 f5 (Genesis as I recall) and Tech Pan, as even with
- the above situation there still should be adequate margin at about
- 200 lp/mm (?) if Tech Pan can resolve to 320 lp/mm. 200 lp/mm is
- 5 microns per lp or about 0.0002in, a small distance. I'm guessing
- that most (all ?) of your testing has been performed with a tripod
- and that you might get some better numbers by using an inspection
- surface plate or laser mounting table. While you're in an inspection
- area you could also check for vibration of your setup. A microscope
- that takes a camera could also be pressed into service.
-
- John Ongtooguk (johno@sdd.hp.com)
-