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- From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
- Subject: Re: Backcountry Crowding
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:18:51 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov22.194905.9737@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> gopal@astro.as.arizona.edu (Gopal Narayanan) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov22.161127.11177@inmet.camb.inmet.com> daf@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Tony Flanders) writes:
- >>I have been following the various threads on population growth and its
- >>effect on the backcountry with some interest and some anger.
- >>
- >>Yes, backcountry in the U.S. has become much more crowded in the last few
- >>decades. Whether it is has become *too* crowded is a matter of opinion,
- >>but the increase is a matter of record. Very little of the increase in
- >>backcountry use is due to population growth. Between 1960 and 1990, the
- >>U.S. population increased from 180,000,000 to 250,000,000. A 40% increase --
- >>nothing to sneeze at. But if backcountry use were 40% greater than in 1960,
- >>people would hardly have noticed. I don't have access to any figures,
- >>but I guess that the increase has been closer to 5-fold.
- >
- >...much cutting of a long but excellent post(IMO) to save BW..
- >
- >Finally, we hear a more rational point of view in this divided, often
- >vitriolic thread in r.b. I come from a country where the population is getting
- >close to a billion. But if you do go out to the wilderness (at least whatever
- >that remains) you CAN completely get away from it all. I attribute it to the
- >fact that in India there are no good roads, campgrounds, the social setup, good
- >gear and leisure time for a mass onslaught on the backcountry as it is in
- >this country. I think THIS is the major reason why it is harder to get away
- >from people in all your once-favorite haunts. To attribute it all to a
- >catastrophic increase in population and advocate mass extermination (:-))
- >or to put the blame on immigration is totally irrational. I think anybody
- >would admit most of the increase in influx into backcountry in recent times
- >is from newly converted yuppies than from poor immigrants who are fighting
- >to make a livelihood in some inner city ghetto.
-
- Population growth is a serious environmental problem, both on the national
- and global level. You are correct that population is not the main factor
- in recent increases in backcountry use. But population growth represents
- the biggest threat to wild lands (not to mention quality of life in general.)
- If we don't, for instance, drill for oil in the Alaskan Wildlife Refuge today,
- we are simply putting it off until tomorrow. Do you think wilderness
- protections will survive vis-a-vis millions of starving Americans?
-
- >Thanks for adding a touch of reality to this whole arguement.
-
- Notwithstanding the fact that your appreciation isn't at all directed at
- me, given the "touch of reality" clause, I have to say, You're Welcome!
-
- >But shortsightedness and racial hatred and bickering is not the
- >solution.
-
- Racial hatred won't solve global problems.
-
-
- --
-
- -Wayne Trzyna
- trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
-