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- From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
- Newsgroups: or.politics,alt.rush-limbaugh
- Subject: Re: Gay marriage (was: The Difference Between Cs and Ls)
- Keywords: marriage relationships gay rights
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.143853.702@qiclab.scn.rain.com>
- Date: 23 Nov 92 14:38:53 GMT
- Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Nov23.143853.702
- References: <1085@bug.UUCP> <1992Oct28.184732.14612@qiclab.scn.rain.com> <1109@bug.UUCP> <Bx6MsH.936@news.orst.edu> <1133@bug.UUCP>
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- stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce) writes:
-
- >In article <Bx6MsH.936@news.orst.edu> chamberk@ucs.orst.edu
- >(Kevin Chambers) writes:
-
- ><A lesbian friend of mine has children, and if she could get in her
- ><lesbian partnership the privileges that straights get in theirs, that
- ><would make her job as a parent go much easier. Or do you think that
- ><Gay and Lesbian families don't need the help that straight ones do?
-
- >I have no quarrel with your friend, but this isn't the issue.
-
- Sorry, but that is *exactly* the issue that people have been *attempting*
- to discuss with you. You insist on playing word and logic games rather
- than addressing the issue.
-
- As an example, your oft repeated line about "but they *can* marry, they
- just can't get a state marriage license". When you continue to repeat
- that after repeated attempts to point out that it is *legal* marraige,
- not the religous ceremony, that people are talking about, one must
- conclude that you are avoding the issue.
-
- Since you are so fond of quoting state laws, please tell me where "marriage"
- is *legally* defined as anything other than having a valid marriage license.
-
- Another of your attempts to stretch things out of shape was the comment
- that gays *could* get the benefits of marriage by marrying someone of
- the opposite sex. Soryy, that won't wash either. Many of the rights that
- are involved are specific to the people who are married. So if a gay
- couple wants *those* rights, they can't have them.
-
- Your arguments about using some sort of private contract are equally
- specious. Why should a gay couple have to go to so much more time and
- trouble (to say nothing of expense) to get *some* of the rights of a
- married couple, without even being able to *know* if the contract
- will be found valid until it is too late? This is the old "seperate
- but equal" argument in new clothes. And as with the case of the blacks
- the "seperate" situations are *not* equal.
-
-
- --
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