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- From: pearson_steven@tandem.com (Steven R. Pearson)
- Subject: Re: Mutual Funds Fees - 12b-1s, in particular
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- In article <1efiomINNge8@agate.berkeley.edu>, braver@magnolia.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Braverman) writes:
- >
- > All other things being equal, if I'm trying to decide between two
- > mutual funds, A and B, whose total annual fund operating expenses
- > are the same, but fund A doesn't charge 12b-1 Fees, whereas fund B
- > does, is there any reason to prefer A over B or vice-versa? That is,
- > as an investor, am I only interested in to bottom line operating
- > expenses (which already include any 12b-1 fees, if any), or does the
- > presence of 12b-1 fees have some hidden sinister consequences?
-
- I would probably favor Fund A. The reason being that there is some chance
- that the overall expenses of the funds might decrease over time (esp. if the
- fund does well and grows). I would bet that in most cases, the 12(b)1 portion
- of annual expenses would remain fixed, so Fund A has a slightly better chance
- of having lower fees in the future than does Fund B. This would not be a strong
- criteria for me, because all other things are rarely equal. But if they were (as
- far as I could tell), I would avoid the 12(b)1.
-
- Another reason (you have to decide for yourself if it's sinister) that 12(b)1
- fees might be a negative would be if you have a relationship with a broker
- or financial planner who sold you the fund. In this case, chances are high
- that that person is getting a steady stream of income as long as you are in the
- fund. Your advisors investment recommendations may be somewhat biased,
- even subconsciously, toward the fund that's paying them.
-
- In fact, I was in a fund that was quite up front about its intention of adding
- 12(b)1's because it figured it could convince us that they would help retain
- shareholders, and over time would actually reduce overall operating expenses.
- I didn't buy it, and bailed (having already paid a load to get in, I couldn't see
- paying a yearly commission on top of that). Frankly, I believe they were just
- doing the usual BS of hiding part of the commission. They lowered the front
- end load at the same time. Long term holders actually would end up paying
- more in commissions than before, but the fund was at the same time more
- marketable because of the lower front end take. Needless to say, now that I
- know a stock from a hole in the ground (RELP, anyone want to buy one? :-),
- I am firmly in the no-load camp.
-
- -steve p. (opinions mine, no warranty, standard disclaimers)
-