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- Subject: Re: User limit in VS4000
- Message-ID: <17311.2b08a426@bclcl1.im.battelle.org>
- From: hansher@bclcl1.im.battelle.org (Kevin Hansher, Battelle Computing Center)
- Date: 17 Nov 92 07:49:58 EST
- References: <0096372A.395F4F20.1571@niuhep.phys.niu.edu> <BxLt9C.12J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
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- In article <BxLt9C.12J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>, theune@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Peter Theune) writes:
- > system@NIUHEP.PHYS.NIU.EDU writes:
- >
- >>>I've got a VaxStation 4000 VLC, with an interactive user limit of 2.
- >>>I asked for a more extensive limit, and people from local's Digital
- >>>told me that even they install another VMS license, hardware prevents
- >>>that the number of interactive users gets over 2.
- >
- >>Bullfinches! I just logged into a VLC under three usernames (the last one
- >>to log in was unprivledged, only one had extra privs).
- >>There was rumors of a policy not to allow more than 2 logins (which was
- >>{damn, I'm not in edit mode} because of the extra power of the 4000s and
- >>the low price, DEC didn't want people using the 4000 in place of microvaxes.
- >>(dumb idea in my opinion given what they are competing against.) In fact
- >>I believe we ran into that policy, but we have the CSLG :) which allows us
- >>,as an educational institution to have infinite logins.
- >>Robert Morphis
- >>system%niu.hepnet@lbl BITNET
- >>system@phys.niu.edu INTERNET
- >>NIU::SYSTEM HEPNET
- >
- > Robert,
- >
- > I suspect that you logged in as an X term session, for some reason the
- > license fac doesn't check for them. You can have as many x sessions as
- > you can stand.
- >
- > The VLC uses a class D workstation license, which normally allows two
- > sessions. You cannot even "set host 0" after the second session is
- > started. You can however have many users connected via Xterm.
- >
- > There _IS_ a special 8 user license available, but you must speak the
- > magic words to get it, and depending on the regional office, it can be
- > either very cheap or very expensive. Ours cost us 23 dollars (US) a
- > couple of years ago for a similar situation with a vaxserver 3600. The
- > situation with the servers is even more severe than with the VS, the
- > server allows only one user, not counting the console. If a user is
- > logged on at opa0, then no one else can get on. (servers use a class C
- > license I think).
- >
- > Anyway, the bottom line is; use X.
- >
- > Also, I think that UCX (the dec tcp/ip package) does not check users,
- > but this might have been changed.
- >
- > Peter.
- >
- >
-
- Well I will speak for a non-educational site (in the U.S.) who is going
- through this right now on a VS3100. There are two part numbers to allow
- you up to 8 logins - I don't know personally if you can go higher. Anyway,
- QL-001AC-BR is an upgrade license from 2-4 users and QL-001AC-B8 is the
- part number for an upgrade to a 5-8 user license. Again, this is what
- is being ordered for a VAXstation 3100, but I would bet the VS4000's are
- either the same part number or at least, available.
-
- We are doing this because we are running VCS on a VS3100 and need more than
- 2 users at times. We have used X to create remote displays on-site and
- get around this (quite legal I might add), but obviously this won't work
- off-site (no ethernet), plus we have a couple of VCS users who do not have
- X capable displays.
-
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