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- Subject: Re: User limit in VS4000
- Message-ID: <17312.2b09f428@bclcl1.im.battelle.org>
- From: hansher@bclcl1.im.battelle.org (Kevin Hansher, Battelle Computing Center)
- Date: 18 Nov 92 07:43:36 EST
- References: <0096372A.395F4F20.1571@niuhep.phys.niu.edu> <BxLt9C.12J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <1992Nov12.223226.4410@spcvxb.spc.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov12.223226.4410@spcvxb.spc.edu>, terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes:
- > In article <BxLt9C.12J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>, theune@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Peter Theune) writes:
- >> There _IS_ a special 8 user license available, but you must speak the
- >> magic words to get it, and depending on the regional office, it can be
- >> either very cheap or very expensive. Ours cost us 23 dollars (US) a
- >> couple of years ago for a similar situation with a vaxserver 3600.
- >
- > The $23 was an educational deal. Commercial prices for the 8-user upgrade
- > were more expensive. It was a "special" product and didn't have a list price.
- > The exact price you'd pay depended on what your sales rep decided, and was
- > supposed to only be offered to users who would buy other vendor's systems if
- > they couldn't get a multi-user license.
- >
- > I believe the new "OpenVMS" licenses allow expansion in units of 1 user -
- > thus, you can have as many users as you're willing to pay for. I don't know
- > if DEC sells those only on "timeshare" systems or if you can do it on the
- > server/station systems as well.
- >
-
- I believe the answer to your "I don't know" is No, you can't do the same
- thing on the server/station's as you can on the other machines. As I
- posted a reply earlier, we are a non-educational site and just did this on
- a VS3100. But it was a different part number than the OpenVMS license
- upgrades. And, I guarantee you, unless for some reason you get a
- "special" deal from your rep, the VMS upgrade prices on servers/stations
- are "much" more than the $300/seat for the "new" OpenVMS licensing. This,
- obviously, is how DEC will control the pricing gap between server/stations
- and the "real" timesharing machines. One other thing to note...I have been
- told, but have not had a chance to confirm this yet, that once I upgrade
- the number of licenses on a VAXstation that the layered product unit rating
- doubles. Of course 20 units is still better for many sites than the 100
- units for a VAX 4100. Again this last bit of info has not been confirmed by
- me, but just mentioned by my local rep.
-
- p.s.
- Believe it or not, we currently have a sales rep. who we can trust. Of
- course we'll see how long it will last before he gets reassigned or
- laid off. (And I have been on the other side of the fence with "worthless"
- ones!!!)
-
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