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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:21:52 EST
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- Subject: Re: Dial Tone on CATV
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- In TELECOM Digest 12-852, on "15 NOV 92 04:03" Randy Gellens
- <MPA15AB!RANDY@TRENGA.tredydev.unisys.com> writes:
-
- > With all the talk about cable companies wanting to compete with LECs
- > for local dial tone, I started wondering: how can a cable company
- > offer dial tone...I guess they could put everyone on a different
- > frequency, but that would probably use up all of the cable, and
- > then some. Don't they want to leave room for TV?
-
- I'm not a hardware engineer but the answer seems -- to me -- to be
- quite obvious. One TV channel takes 6MHZ of bandwidth. One telephone
- channel takes up about 10KHZ of bandwidth if I remember correctly.
- This implies that if you separated each channel by an equal amount of
- spacing (to make it easy) that you can put 300 telephone calls on a
- single channel, simply by raising or lowering the frequency inband on
- that particular channel.
-
- For receiving telephone calls, it's really simple; there can be a
- dedicated channel that does nothing but send out the equivalent of
- Cellular phone "MIN/ESN" signals, telling a local phone to (1) ring
- (2) select a certain channel as the place where the call is
- originating from (3) start a "guard tone" while the call is in
- progress at a certain frequency above the regular channel. In fact, I
- suspect that a number of features used in cellular telephones may be
- useful for use in running telephone calls over cable TV.
-
- To make outgoing calls requires some synchronization, i.e. you could
- have a "guard tone" in the empty space between calls as an indicator
- that a channel is empty. The dial unit listens starting at a certain
- channel for a guard tone and if it finds one, climbs up by 10KHZ to
- the next channel, until it either finds an empty channel or reaches
- the top of the band. When it gets to the top of the band, it starts
- over at the bottom until it recycles. Assuming that a full search of
- the entire band of 300 channels can be done in, say, three seconds, if
- it can't find an open channel, it doesn't give a dial tone.
-
- Now, once you find an open channel, you send a guard tone and in that
- band a signal to request a dial tone by sending your id code. (Funny
- this is sounding more-and-more like cellular). If you get your code
- back and dial tone, you know you've siezed an outgoing trunk and can
- proceed to dial; you pass the dial tone on to the telephone. If you
- don't get your code back, then someone else has simultaneously grabbed
- the line; if the line does have dial tone now, you know that another
- party has the line because they got it first, so you go back and climb
- "up" the channel list looking again.
-
- There are other options, such as assigning a specific channel to a
- specific line and thus when the user sends a guard tone or whatever
- signal is used to indicate "off hook" he gets a dial tone if there are
- dial-tone senders available. What can be done is on the pole, they
- could reserve a whole coaxial cable - all 50 channels or so, which
- would allow 15,000 simultaneous telephone calls -- to run from the
- general location to the cable company's hub end. So what can happen
- is something like this:
-
- 1. Your phone is assigned a certain frequency on your wire.
- 2. When you pick up the phone, your "network interface block"
- sends a guard tone along that frequency's signalling band
- to request a dial tone.
- 3. The local sender converts your channel into the open slot
- for this area from the 15,000 open channels available.
- 4. The hub end sees if you're authorized and returns a dial
- tone.
- 5. You get the dial tone and dial a number.
-
- All of this happens within about one or two seconds from the time you
- pick up the phone.
-
- An article I read about four or five months ago in {Forbes} stated
- that for cable companies to offer telephone service, they would
- probably have to spend as much as $500 per subscriber to install the
- necessary equipment. On the other hand, the same article claims,
- using ordinary single pair, the phone company could run as many as
- three TV channels. I find it hard to believe that someone could run
- 18MHZ of signal through a pair of wire, or even two pair.
-
-
- Paul Robinson TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM These opinions are mine alone.
-
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