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- Path: sparky!uunet!utcsri!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!qucdn!spraggej
- Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:38:34 EST
- From: John G. Spragge <SPRAGGEJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Message-ID: <92320.173834SPRAGGEJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Newsgroups: can.politics
- Subject: Re: Senate Interrogation
- Distribution: can
- References: <17510@mindlink.bc.ca>
- Lines: 48
-
- In article <17510@mindlink.bc.ca>, Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford
- Kilian) says:
- >
- >We'll probably never know (even if we were there) what really happened in the
- >skies of Germany 50 years ago, and whether it meant a damn thing. But we
- >ought to know that freedom of expression is under immediate threat from
- >tax-paid Senators like Sylvain. And we ought to be yelling our heads off
- >about that, not about Gwynne bloody Dwyer's credibility.
-
- As the person who brought Gwynne Dyer into this, let me defend his
- introduction. I wanted to make the point that we can debate this
- issue on the basis of what we know about the air war over Germany.
- We may never know the entire meaning of the battle, but we can
- discuss the issues on the merits. I believe the CBC ombudsman tried
- to do this. The senators, on the other hand, seem not to have done
- so: they have power, they don't like what they hear, and if they
- don't like the truth, they'll pitch it and get someone to invent a
- "truth" they do like.
-
- It alarms me that they evidently have a convert on this net, who
- doesn't seem to have any interest in what facts we do know about the
- air war over Germany. He will quote no references; when I point out
- his mistakes on some key issues and his complete ignorance of others,
- he takes refuge in the assertion that "hindsight is 20/20" and "it's
- all guesswork".
-
- I find this sort of thing relevant, because if people really believe
- (even on an academic network) that we really can't expect to find
- out what really happened in history, and we should feel free to
- invent the facts to suit ourselves, then such people as our senator
- will feel free to bring the power of government to bear on forcing
- people to accept the "truth" they have invented. What you call
- "McCarthyism" represents one example of a larger disease: the belief
- that we can determine the "truth" by sheer force of will. That disease
- seems widespread, and I have no suggestion for a cure. Indeed, I will
- admit to having been touched by it: other people on this net will
- tell you that I myself often make sloppy errors with the facts. But
- I do recognise the disease, where the senators and at least one other
- person on the net appear to have succumbed to it completely.
-
- And for that reason, if no other, Gwynne Dyer's credibility, and
- the question of what did happen in the skies fifty years ago, does
- matter.
-
- Your culture will adapt to service ours - Columbus to Natives, 1492
- Your culture will adapt to service ours - Borg to Captain Picard, 24th C.
-
- standard disclaimers apply ----------------------- John G. Spragge
-