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- ---------- Text of forwarded message ----------
- WAIS comp.internet.library
- Search using keywords "bibliography novice books internet"
-
- Subject: -17- Are there any books about using the Internet?
- Date: 14 Sep 92 00:00:01 EST
-
- Yes. There are a growing number of reference books available on the subject
- of using the Internet.
-
- TITLE: Zen and the Art of the Internet: A Beginner's Guide, 2nd ed
- AUTHOR: Brendan P. Kehoe
- PUBLISHER: Prentice Hall
- ISBN: 0-13-010778-6
- PAGES: 112
- PRICE: 22.00 $US
-
- TITLE: The Whole Internet User's Guide & Catalog
- AUTHOR: Ed Krol
- PUBLISHER: O'Reilly
- ISBN: 1-56592-025-2
- PAGES: 400
- PRICE: 24.95 $US
-
- TITLE: Internet: Getting Started
- SERIES: Volume 1, Internet Information Series
- AUTHOR: [SRI International, Network Information Systems Center]
- PUBLISHER:
- ISBN: 0-944-604-15-3
- PAGES:
- PRICE: 39.00 $US
-
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-
- ftp nic.merit.edu (username: anonymous; password: guest)
- cd introducing.the.internet (change to that directory)
- get intro.internet.biblio (get the file)
-
- Note:
- 1. This file was created on October 14, 1992.
- 2. It is for beginners. The title is: FYI on Introducing the Internet---
- A Short Bibliography of Introductory Internetworking Readings
- for the Network Novice
- 3. If you ftp from a PC, or a VAX account, you should change the file
- name so that it fits the file name requirement of the system. For
- example, from a DOS PC, you should enter the following command to
- get the file.
- get intro.internet.biblio internet.bib
-
- ----------
-
- I used Archie to locate the bibliography:
-
- telnet archie.rutgers.edu
- login archie
- at the archie> prompt, enter: set search sub
- at the archie> prompt, enter: prog biblio
-
- Had to look through several hundred file listings to find it!
-
-
- ====> anonymous ftp to nis.nsf.net
- cd /introducing.the.internet
- file is intro.internet.biblio
-
- Note: The authors of this document, the Internet Engineering Task Force, do
- *not* run the Internet. There is no one body governing the Internet.
-
- ----------
-
- anonymous ftp nnsc.nsf.net
- cd resource-guide
- get resource-guide.txt.tar.Z
- quit
-
- ----------
-
- Keys: Internet, bibliography, novice users
- Ideas: One of the rules of the Internet is that the more people are likely to
- ask for something, the more places it will be. Hence the ubiquitous
- Frequently Asked Questions files. The first way that occured to me to do this
- was focus on the word Internet and simply:
-
- Answer:
- telnet quake.think.com
- login as wais
- select 160 Inernet-drafts [hit spacebar]
- Keyword search on "novice" [hit "w" to get keyword search]
- select 001 "draft-ietf-userdoc2-fyi-novice-01"
-
- [Reading this document leads you to all kinds of other things, I couldn't
- resist]
-
- ftp nic.merit.edu
- cd /introducing.the.internet
- get intro.internet.biblio [there's also some great other documents in here
- like access.guide]
-
- ----------
-
- Anonymous ftp to HYDRA.UWO.CA
- cd /libsoft
-
- Two files are possible candidates:
-
- get STANTON.BIB
- get NETWORKING_BIBLIO.TXT
-
- Stanton's bibliography is really aimed at librarians and information
- scientists, so it might be a tad much.
-
- Elliott Parker's bibliography (the second one) is much more aimed at
- the novice. He introduces it:
-
- This is some documentation on networking. There has been no
- attempt to make it comprehensive and the main focus is on
- material of use to the beginning networker, rather than
- engineers, network managers, or researchers. This is not a
- formal bibliography. The selection is somewhat eccentric and
- eclectic, but it is the type of material I wish I had known about
- when just beginning to use the networks. Some of the citations
- are just fun to read.
-
- so this is probably the one referred to. These certainly aren't the only
- sources out there.
-
- BTW, Advanced Network & Services, Inc has an archie that I used to find the
- stanton bibliography. Interestingly enough, it completely missed the
- primary libsoft site maintained by Gord Nickerson at the School of Library and
- Information Science at the University of Western Ontario (HYDRA.UWO.CA)
-
- =======================================================================
- 7. (5) In what year was Justice Byron R. White appointed to the
- U.S. Supreme Court?
-
- Winner's Answer
-
- Use WAIS, telnet to quake.think.com and login as WAIS.
- Scroll to US-Judges (pegun.law.columbia.edu) which is
- currently 298. Do a keyword search, "Byron White."
- 5 items are retrieved. The top entry lists Byron
- R. White and states his appointment by Kennedy in
- 1962.
-
- Other Answers
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-
- telnet info.umd.edu
- login: gopher
- select Info-Gopher Interface
- select Government
- select US
- select Supreme Ct
- select justices
-
- ----------
-
- gopher (telnet) to fatty.law.cornell.edu (login: gopher) to connect
- to the experimental gopher site of Cornell Law School. Select
- Government Agencies: Information and Reports/ and then US Judges'
- Database. Search for Bryan White, and you'll retrieve the same
- record as the previous one.
-
- ----------
-
- Keys: Justice Byron R. White, Supreme Court, appointed
- Ideas: I did not think going to the same source as in Question 1 would make
- sense because this is not information you would find in the decisions. I
- learned in the WorldWideWeb that there are two ways to approach information:
- by subject and by server. I thought this might be a good time to try by
- server, so I looked around in a copy of Hytelnet [very nice tool, I have it at
- home on my PC and our systems librarian mounted it on the university gopher,
- complete with connections to the sites], which got me:
-
- Answer:
- telnet sparc-1.law.columbia.edu
- login as lawnet
- select 3 Law School Info Server
- select 10 [spacebar] us-judges
- type w for keyword search
- keywords: white
- select 001 U.S. Supreme Court, Judge Byron R. Whit
- "Appointed by: Kennedy in 1962"
-
- =======================================================================
- 8. (5) Which country has a higher infant mortality rate, the
- United States, or Singapore?
-
- Winner's Answer
-
- Answer is the United States.
- Use WAIS. Telnet to quake.think.com and login as WAIS.
- Select World Fact Book at cmns.moon.think.com (which
- is currently Source number 318).
- Keywords: Singapore United States infant mortality
- Pick reference for Singapore Geography and scan until
- section on Infant Mortality: It lists 8 deaths per
- 1000 (in 1991). Pick reference for United States
- Geography and scan until section on Infant Mortality:
- It lists 10 deaths per 1000 (in 1991). I double
- checked the next listing in WAIS, "WORLD91A" which
- looked as if it had slightly more recent data but
- it gave exactly the same data for infant mortality.
-
- Other Answers
- -------------
-
- This may be a weird method, but it worked :)
- anonymous ftp to site: nic.funet.fi
- cd to directory: /pub/doc/World_Facts
- In that directory are the facts about all countries.
- get the files: Singapore and United_States
- In them are the numbers for infant mortality.
- US: 10/1000 Singaport: 8/1000
-
- ----------
-
- telent info.umd.edu
- login: gopher
- select Info-Gopher Interface
- select Government
- select Factbook91
- select Countries
- singapore #194, US #230
-
- US - Infant Mortality Rate 1991; 10 deaths/1,000 live births
- Singapore - Infant Mortality Rate 1991; 8 deaths/1,000 live births
-
- ----------
-
- telnet panda.uiowa.edu (picked this one out of a hat too)
- select: Online Info Sources
- select: Online Libraries
- select: Reference Works
- select: CIA World Fact Book 1991
- select: S
- select: Singapore
- read to find: 8 deaths/1000 live births 1991
-
- same to get to U; then select United States; 10 deaths/1000 live births 1991.
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