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- From: sackman@plains.nodak.edu (Gleason Sackman)
- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.edtech
- Subject: November Hunt Results - 2 of 4
- Message-ID: <EDTECH%92111716430979@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 21:24:23 GMT
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- ---------- Text of forwarded message ----------
- Other Answers
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-
- anonymous ftp to : pit-manager.mit.edu
- login: ftp
- password: <your own email address>
-
- go to directory: pub/usenet/news.admin
- and get the file: How_to_become_a_USENET_site
-
- In that same directory are more files that will help a starting
- usenet manager.
-
- (Rick: Several folks suggested retrieving this, and other postings
- from certain Usenet newsgroups. Though this is certainly a solution,
- I judged accessing J. Kamen's file from the FTP site a better
- solution. This is due to the fact that not all newsgroups/newreaders
- make certain postings permanent. Most newgroup postings have a
- regular expiration date. When I tried to retrieve this posting it was
- listed as expired. In order to get the information, I would have had
- to wait until the file was posted again.)
-
- ================================================================
- 3. (4) Hi, I'm learning to the play the guitar, and someone told
- me that there's a place on the network where I can get guitar
- chords for lots of different songs. What I'm looking for
- specifically is the music to a song by the Indigo Girls called
- "Closer to Fine".
-
- Winner's Answer
-
- Use anonymous FTP to ftp.nevada.edu.
- cd pub
- cd guitar
- cd Indigo-Girls
- bin
- get CloserToFine.crd
- get CloserToFine.tab
-
- You will find the guitar chords in both of these versions.
- The .crd file looks a little more recent; it also includes
- words to the song.
-
- Other Answers
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-
- USC-Math Gopher Service:
- Multitopic/Music/Music Archives (cs.uwp.edu)/Guitar TAB files from
- ftp.nev.edu.edu/Indigo_Girls/CloserToFine.Tab and CloserToFine.crd
- (Tablature and chords are included in these two files)
-
- ("archie -s closertofine" works nicely, too, returning FTP'able sources)
-
-
- ----------
-
- ftp to clouso.crim.ca, cd /pub/guitar/Indigo_Girls
- get CloserToFine.crd
-
- archie was used to find "indigo", using "archie -slt indigo"
-
- ----------
-
- Keys: chords, guitar, Indigo Girls, Closer to Fine
- Ideas: Having been around the Internet [there's no substitute for random
- explorations], I knew that there was a lyric database on WAIS and WWW, but
- rechecking these confirmed that chords were not part of that. There's always
- Archie, but since I wasn't sure what to put in [prog "guitars"? "chords"?
- "music"?] I fell back, yet again, on Scott Yanoff's list.
-
- Answer:
- "Guitar Chords/TAB" on Scott Yanoff list
- ftp ftp.nevada.edu
- cd /pub/guitar
- get README and INDEX files
- [consult files, go back in]
- cd /pub/guitar/indigo_girls
- get CloserToFine
- [somewhere in there i set Binary, but I sent it in ASCII as well - I'm still
- working on that distinction - I've had files that I could view in WordPerfect
- but not print off - so close and yet...]
-
- ============================================================================
- 4. (7) Hello, I hope you don't mind questions via e-mail. E-mail
- is all I have here in my department. I'm interested in getting a
- program called hppscrpt.zip. I found a description of it in a
- mail message from a listserv that I'm on. It's at
- wuarchive.wustl.edu and in the /mirrors2/win3/drivers/printer
- directory. I've heard there's a way to issue mail commands to
- get files via ftp. Where do I request this service, and what
- commands should I use to get this file?
-
- Winner's Answer
-
- Address email to "ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com"
- The subject can be anything you want to use to
- keep track of it. The text must say:
-
- connect wuarchive.wustl.edu
- binary
- chdir /mirror2/win3/drivers/printer
- get hppscrpt.zip
- quit
-
- There are possible variations that this may not
- cover. Before sending a file, check on its location
- by sending email to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com with
- the text HELP.
-
- The service is called BITFTP
- This is how to access it :
-
- send a mail to : BITFTP@PUCC.Princeton.edu
-
- the body of the mail should contain the following lines:
-
- FTP wuarchive.wustl.edu UUENCODE
- USER anonymous
- CD /mirrors2/win3/drivers/printer
- BINARY
- GET hppscrpt.zip
- QUIT
-
- Other Answers
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-
- Keys: hppscrpt.zip, wuarchive.wustl.edu, /mirrors2/win3/driver/printer
- Ideas: I've finally learned to check Scott Yanoof first, and then look further
- if I have to. But I didn't. [P.S. For me, this was the neatest question on
- this Hunt - after doing it I found myself wondering why the people at
- decwrl.dec.com would be this nice - I guess I learned something about
- the Internet ethos and good will.]
-
- Answer:
- MAIL> mail
- To: IN"ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com"
- Subject: [Return]
-
- Body of Letter:
- help
-
- [You get a note back explaining to you what you do, and you send a second
- message:]
-
- MAIL>mail
- To: IN"ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com"
- Subject: November Hunt ?
-
- Body of Letter:
-
- connect wuarchive.wustl.edu
- binary
- chdir /mirrors2/win3/drivers/printer
- get hppscript.zip
- quit
-
- [I did this fairly late at night and had the response in what seemed like
- minutes. Too cool.]
-
- ==========================================================================
- 5. (2) What's Mark Watson's job at the University of Oregon
- Library?
-
- Winner's Answer
-
- Mark Watson is Head of the Cataloging Department at
- the University of Oregon Library.
- The easiest way to find that was to use Gopher.
- Telnet consultant.micro.umn.edu and login as gopher.
- If you select phone books, other institutions, and
- then North America, at listing for University of
- Oregon, fill in template, line 1, with
- "Mark Watson" and press return. The rest of the
- information is then available.
-
- If instead, you choose to go to other gophers rather
- than phone books, you can access the University of
- Oregon gopher which will give you additional info.
- Choosing the entry "Search Ducksoup by keyword"
- and typing "Mark Watson." At this point a menu
- comes up with no. 3 as "Faculty" (taken from
- the /University of Oregon/Catalog/Library)
- Select 3. Faculty, to retrieve an alphabetical list of
- faculty. On scrolling to Mark Watson, his name is
- highlighted, and additional information appears.
- He is Mark R. Watson, Assistant Professor,
- Head, Catalogue Department. His educational
- background is also given.
-
- Other Answers
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-
- head of the catalog dept.
- (from whois.uoregon.edu 43)
-
- this one was really hard! how was i supposed to know his middle
- initial was "R"?
-
- ==================================================================
- 6. (5) Someone in class today mentioned that the people that run
- the Internet have just put together a bibliography of readings
- for novice users. I know how to use ftp, but where do I find
- this bibliography?
- (Rick: I included a lot more of these answers than I normally would.
- I want novice users to have access to the wealth of material on
- getting started.)
-
- Winner's Answer
-
- It is much easier to identify this bibliography by WAIS than
- by anonymous FTP but it can be done both ways.
-
- By WAIS, telnet quake.think.com and login as WAIS.
- Select source internet-drafts at nnsc.nsf.net (current
- source number 160). I decided to start with internet-drafts
- since it seemed logical that something new would come out
- first as a draft.
- Pick keywords: novice bibliography
- Top choice is desired document:
- "FYI on Introducing the Internet--A Short Bibliography of
- Introductory Internetworking Readings for the Network
- Novice. (date October 1992)
- file name is: draft-ietf-userdoc2-fyi-novice-01.
-
- By anonymous FTP, ftp to nnsc.nsf.net.
- NNSC.NSF.NET seemed to be the right place to look for
- something put out by the folks who run the net.
- cd internet-drafts
- bin (get files as binary)
- get index-internet-drafts (to review to pick out
- internet bibiography for novice users).
- get draft-ietf-userdoc2.fyi-novice-01.
-
- While much harder than wais, anonymous ftp will work -
- just takes longer.
-
- Other Answers
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-
- This question is sort of vague, but an excellent bibliography on the
- Internet is one edited by Mary Jensen. You can find it via telnetting
- to liberty.uc.wlu.edu login as "lawlib". Select option 11 ("Local
- Files") and then option 47 ("Internet Bibliography (Jensen)").
- It can be ftped from liberty.uc.wlu.edu as "/pub/lawlib/internet.bibl".
-
- There are also bibliographies in many tutoring documents about the
- internet, for instance: Zen and the Art of the Internet, the Bay Area
- Internet FAQ (section 4), the Internet Infoguide (from SURAnet) etc.
-
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