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- Newsgroups: aus.religion
- Subject: Re: God and Science: Are they incompatible?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.131751.90655@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 13:17:51 +1100
- References: <1992Nov10.025745.9418@ucc.su.OZ.AU> <ricko.721985667@ee.uts.EDU.AU>
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- Organization: Monash University - Melbourne. Australia.
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- In article <ricko.721985667@ee.uts.EDU.AU>, ricko@ee.uts.edu.au
- (Rick Jelliffe) writes:
- > pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker) writes:
- >
- >>The following article appeared in The Physics Society of Sydneys
- >>journal "Jeremy", this year.
- >
- >>God and Science: are they incompatible?
- >
- >>... two points to make. One is that a view held by the church may not always
- >>reflect the God which it represents, for does the Bible say that the earth is
- >>flat or that it is at the centre of the universe. Even the poorest scholar
- >>can see that it does not, yet these are views that the church has held in
- >>the past and persecuted physicists for rightly showing these views to be wrong.
- >
- > The Galileo affair was not about the if the earth was flat. This is a general
- > myth that is also held about Columbus (i.e. that he proved them wrong).
- > Which scientists are being talked of?
-
- But the "Galileo affair" was about showing that the earth may not be
- the centre of the universe. He observed rings (and moons?) around Saturn
- which showed that not everything revolved around the earth. This did not
- sit well with the church authorities of the time.
-
- As far as I know, no-one was persecuted for believing that the earth
- was round, when the church may have said otherwise. However, I know
- little about this aspect.
-
- >>Then there is the case more to do with genetics and so on, where the moral
- >>issues become greater. Does the scientist have the right to make decisions
- >>over the genetic makeup of the human species, or is that purely the ground of
- >>a God that created?
- >
- > The central question I have heard is that human genetic engineering involves
- > experiments on humans, something worthy Nazis. In order to perfect
- > the techniques, humans would be killed or mained. The question of a right
- > to tamper with genes comes after whether its right to kill babies in
- > grizly experiments. And if an experiment produces a dud, is it right to
- > kill the freak? I think anyone civilized would say no to such an enterprise.
-
- Although you bring up a valid point about the state of affairs with
- human genetic engineering at this present time, I think the author
- was speculating on the moral right to do any genetic tampering
- at all, even if it could be done without horrible accidents/side-effects.
-
- There are many great benefits that could arise eg. eliminating genetic
- diseases, improving immunity, repairing disorders etc. Should we
- neglect this area of research because God created mankind in a certain
- pattern? Or are we allowed to improve on it? (Of course, what is
- considered "improvement" can be subjective).
-
- > -ricko
-
- --
- Don Lowe, Department of Physics, Monash University,
- Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 3168.
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