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- From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
- Subject: Re: Arguing about language
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.232920.25852@Princeton.EDU>
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- References: <1992Nov18.063613.2724@Princeton.EDU> <98361@netnews.upenn.edu>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:29:20 GMT
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- In article <98361@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov18.063613.2724@Princeton.EDU> roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
- >
- >>Words
- >>like donate, narrate, reliable, resurrect, greed, tireless, loan (as verb),
- >>female, enviable -- all these were attacked with at least the venom
- >>we have seen spat at "pro-active" and "concertize" recently -- and
- >>the misinformation in the arguments against these words was just
- >>the same sort.
-
- >Roger, are you saying that no one has the right to dislike a particular
- >word? That we must warmly embrace them all, simply because other people
- >are using them? That if we dare to express an unfavorable opinion, we
- >will -- at least in this discussion group -- be informed that we're full
- >of, and I quote you here, "bullshit"?
-
- You're welcome to like or dislike what you please, and to express your
- dislikes and likes as strongly as you wish.
-
- However, that's a long way from saying that *other* people are doing something
- bad by using this or that word. People are generally doing the best they
- can when they speak, and generally have good and sufficient reasons for
- using the words they use, and avoiding the words they don't.
-
- If you wish to limit your speech and writing to a standard that satisfies
- you -- *any* standard -- by all means do so. Everyone has methods and
- pathways and rules that lead to means of expression they find satisfactory.
- But do not insist that other people limit their speech to the same
- subset of the language that you have chosen, unless you can *demonstrate*
- that distinctions of great value are being lost by this or that usage.
- (Saying "apple" for "banana" would be such a case.) The English language
- is bigger than your idiolect.
-
- Roger
-
-