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- From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
- Subject: Re: A gender neutral pronoun
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:22:10 GMT
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- In article <722057498@ptero.cs.duke.edu> dsb@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Scott Bigham) writes:
- >
- >Wait, 'you' _is_ both a second-person singular pronoun and a
- >second-person plural pronoun.
- >
- Since 'you' is both singular and plural, are any of the following
- considered correct:
-
- I'll see you all later.
- I'll see all of you later.
-
- I know that the following are incorrect, but they are used
- in some parts of the country:
-
- I'll see yous later. (I was guilty of this one for the longest while.)
- I'll see you'll later.
-
- In my opinion, it is confusing to use 'you' as both singular and plural.
-
- For instance, consider the case of a person leaving a table full of
- people. The person leaving looks in the general direction of the
- table and says, "I'll see you later.".
- Does he mean that he will see all of them later or one of them later
- or some number of them later?
- And if he just saying goodbye, is he saying goodbye to all of them
- or just some of them. Should the rest of them feel slighted. :-)
-
- The moral of the story is: When dining with a group of grammarians,
- never be the first to leave the table.
-
- --
- Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)
- From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
-