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- From: lindam@tardigrade.Eng.Sun.COM (Linda McAllister)
- Newsgroups: alt.sewing
- Subject: Re: Biking Clothes (was Re: Lycra fabric outlet in SF??)
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- Date: 14 Nov 92 01:27:05 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov12.204453.13007@syscen.com> judiths@usisun.UUCP (Judith Speck) writes:
- >
- > Speaking of lycra, I'm trying to find patterns for cycling shorts
- >and racing jerseys, as well as a source for CoolMax and lycra fabrics.
- >The only pattern I have seen is by Kwik Sew, and the sizes are completely
- >off. They had the usual C-cup model wearing it, with her Barbie doll
- >figure. Sorry folks, real athletes don't have Barbie boobies--they
- >have a low body fat percentage, and that means the boobs are long gone.
- >Also, athletic women have broader shoulders, which from the picture
- >and other body measurements are not going to be accounted for either.
- >These were the body measurements for the shorts/jersey size small:
- >Chest 34-35.5"
- >Waist 24-26"
- >Hips 35.5-37"
- >
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- Sorry, Judy, but some women who like to ride do have what you sarcastically
- refer to as Barbie boobies. Maybe you're lucky enough not to - they make some
- forms of exercise uncomfortable (if not downright painful) unless special
- support bras are worn (assuming you can find one to fit a larger cup size).
-
- >These people need to watch the Olympics! I doubt there were many
- >female athletes who have a 10" difference between their chest and
- >waist! Most were pretty surf-board like!
- >
-
- You seem to define "athlete" as someone close to Olympic-class quality,
- ignoring everyone who may just like to exercise because they like to, and
- may not necessarily fit into the ideal body mold.
-
- Yes, world-class female athletes are considerably below average when it comes
- to body fat. Olympic athletes spend most of their time training, and trying
- to get that extra edge. They tend to have similar body types (because people
- who don't fit the theoretical ideal body type for the sport get selected out
- early? Or not encouraged to go on? How many female gymnasts do you see any
- more who are over 5'4"?) They also fall into a relatively narrow age range.
- Most women do not fit this category, though: they're all ages, shapes and
- sizes. Sometimes they're even pregnant! These pattern companies need to
- watch {pick your favorite amateur run/bike ride/etc} to see what athletes
- really look like :-)
-
- >If the pattern company is going to make patterns for athletic wear,
- >why don't they size it to fit athletes? In altering the pattern, I
- >would need to broaden the shoulders (to allow for larger biceps),
- >and make a smaller hip/waist proportion (they don't have fat on
- >their hips) and a smaller chest/waist proportion to allow for no
- >chest fat, too. I'm simply not that experienced! My last project
- >was a Star Trek (TNG) uniform for Halloween, and I found it much
- >easier to alter the men's size 34 to fit me than to try to correct
- >the misses Barbie doll pattern. There was no way I could get the
- >shoulders and waist to fit otherwise.
- >
- >Any suggestions? (BTW, I didn't see any athletic wear in BURDA)
- >
- I'm glad some pattern company is making patterns for exercise wear that match
- how I'm proportioned! I know how you feel - I see all these lovely jerseys in
- the bike stores but I can't wear them because they're made for a flat chest :-)
- Try a men's pattern. Or see a general sewing book on pattern alteration: they
- will have instructions on removing darts. If you have some that you like the
- fit of, try using these to make your own pattern. (The Vogue Sewing book should
- have instructions for making patterns from existing garments without destroying
- the garment. )
-
- >Judith
- >The self-appointed president of the newly-created Society For Realistic Women
- >
- Sounds like an interesting organization, but from your attitude above it seems
- that quite a few women won't be able to join.
-
-
- linda mcallister
-
- (Standing by for flames - what's happening to this newsgroup? Must be the
- water. Or something.)
-