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- From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
- Newsgroups: alt.feminism
- Subject: Re: sex in the good ol' days
- Date: 22 Nov 92 09:38:23
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- In article <jay.5.722366787@uuserv.cc.utah.edu> jay@uuserv.cc.utah.edu (Jay Deuel) writes:
- > P.S. Is it true: "man-hatred [that] came into existence very recently"?
-
- I doubt it. We've just been free enough to express anger at our
- oppression very recently. Unless you assume that women are very stupid
- and did not recognize that they were oppressed until this century, it
- seems quite likely to me that there was plenty of hatred of men in the
- past...but anyone intelligent enough to recognize the problems with
- society would probably also be intelligent enough to recognize how
- dangerous it would be for her to object to them.
-
- I have no references on this, it's just speculation. The oldest thing I
- remember having seen at the moment is "Lady Molly of Scotland Yard" by
- the Baroness Orczy (she also wrote "The Scarlet Pimpernel"), in which
- the two main female characters express a good deal of veiled contempt
- for the attitudes of the men around them towards women. These were
- collected in 1910. Anyone have anything older? Still, that's hardly
- that recent...
-
- Muffy
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- Muffy Barkocy muffy@mica.berkeley.edu
- ~Weavers' fingers flying on the loom/patterns shift too fast to be
- discerned/all these years of thinking/ended up like this/in front
- of all this beauty/understanding nothing~ - Bruce Cockburn
-