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- From: beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver)
- Subject: Re: Socialism for Women
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:04:28 GMT
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- In article <misdeva-161192203834@morse-college-kstar-node.net.yale.edu> misdeva@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (Devjani Mishra) writes:
- >In article <Bxo11L.9yp@cs.psu.edu>, beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver)
- >wrote:
- >>
- >> >In article <misdeva-111192175853@morse-college-kstar-node.net.yale.edu> misdeva@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (Devjani Mishra) writes:
-
- [Don]
- >> Abortion is, in general, an elective medical procedure.
- >
- >What about those abortions that are not elective? Generally, those aren't
- >covered either.
-
- Then I would agree that those should be covered.
-
-
- >In a society as pluralistic as ours, I don't think it's plausible to allow
- >objections. If each taxpayer were given the chance to make a laundry list
- >of everything he/she did not wish to pay for, there would be no federal and
- >potentially no state gov't. (That may not be such a bad thing - hmmm...:)
- >)
-
- But doesn't that support government's *not* paying for abortions,
- if the society, as represented by democratically-elected officials,
- has decided not to do so?
-
-
- >> >> I'd be happier with your socialism if it meant I, a man,
- >> >> could retire to raise my children if I felt like it -- and
- >> >> you'd foot the bill for my "freedom to choose."
- >> >
- >> >Look carefully. I didn't say "let's socialize child care".
- >>
- >> You said, "Someone has to pay for it, all of it."
- >>
- >> You implied that "people, parents, taxpayers, all" are responsible
- >> for children.
-
- >Just as we are responsible for the rest of society. Or don't we need to
- >worry about children's welfare?
-
- This attitude tends toward socialism. Pay according to work done;
- unequal but state-controlled distribution of goods. Capitalists
- aren't obligated to worry about children's welfare (except insofar as
- they want to insure future production). No value judgements implied,
- but you can certainly make your own.
-
- Don
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