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- Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
- Subject: Re: SG & VR
- Message-ID: <Macbeth.15.721854593@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu>
- From: Macbeth@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu (Macbeth)
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:09:53 GMT
- References: <13NOV199216452099@venus.tamu.edu>
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- In article <13NOV199216452099@venus.tamu.edu> tww2568@venus.tamu.edu (WEEKS, THOMAS WILLIAM) writes:
- >Subject: SG & VR
- >From: tww2568@venus.tamu.edu (WEEKS, THOMAS WILLIAM)
- >Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:45:00 GMT
-
- >Why Bother with getting a SG VR setup?!! It will just be obsolete (in VR terms)
- >) in 1-2 years..... Just get a mahcine that does the job and save $10K...
-
- >You'll havew to excuse me... I'm new here and still adjusting to the increasing tide of SIG's here...
- >tide of SIGS here.
-
- >I find your Cyberpunk socially curious, but technically empty.
-
- >You like (generilization, not you Zeke) to throw buzz words/phrases around like
- >rice at a wedding.
-
- >I am an Electrical Engineer (have a degree) and have read your fav mag Mondo
- >2000 and am curious as to why you are how you are.
-
- >I can understand the natural attraction to the rush that the power of new tech-
- >nologies can bring, but what substance does your self proclaimed "Movement"
- >stand on? I enjoy electronics and computers, but do not find I have to color
- >box phreak for kicks, or do CC #'rs, or glue TTL chips to my clothes, do
- >brain drugs and come home each day to my biofeedback VSex computer interface.
-
- >I have known many true hackers, for many years now. They do not usually wear
- >disks around their necks and have strange haircuts, but usually are lacking in the
- >the area of personal hygene, have gobs of hair all over thier bodies (some lack-
- >ing in some places) and are social hermits (this discription , to a small ex-
- >tent, discribes myself).
-
- >Gimme a reply... I have looked into the pages of Mondo several times now and
- >found myself laughing, gazeing and getting pissed at some of the ways that
- >the cyberpunk mentality portrays technology and other things that seem new
- >and mystifyingly powerful to them.
-
- > Thomas Weeks
-
- >P.S. If ya need a handle.. fine...
-
- > AKA
- > R.B
- > M a h
- > n t
- > dwid
-
- I agree with Mr. Weeks point of view. I have yet to meet a REAL computer
- hacker, phreak, or pirate who really cares a LOT on wearing 8088s on his
- leather jacket or not. Although I do know some who wear EPROMS dangling on a
- chain as a necklace or an embedded 68000 on a cap, it is very rare and they
- only do so because it is, to some extent, becoming a trend. However, these
- people are mostly anti-social, enjoy their solitude, and seldom care about
- personal appearance to the extent the so-called Cyberculture members do.
- Some of them listen to industrial, some of them listen to metal, some of
- them listen to punk, pop, old rock, classic, whatever. I enjoy Mondo 2000
- and in the latest issue there is a rather well-written report on hackers
- with REAL information (although technically vague). I used to enjoy The
- Legion of Doom's newsletter. I enjoy many things. However, different from
- Mr. Weeks' point of view, I have noticed differences within this so-called
- Cyberpunk movement. First of all: many people read Gibson, enjoy the book,
- like to see computer graphics, have all these silly dreams about the matrix
- and such, yet lack the ability and technological knowledge to interpret
- these figures in our real world. These are the neo-cyberpunks, those who
- would shriek in fear if someone told them "We'll replace your arm with a
- wired-up cyber-implant." Then, there are the others: those who disregard the
- matrix as a fantastical "other world," who seclude themselves in their
- cubicles programming fanatically, only to destroy their program once they
- are done. To these, I also include the unlucky people who, like me, had to
- undergo surgery to replace one of their body segments with a electronic
- substitute, due to a disease such as cancer, an accident, or the like.
- Unluckily, the Cyberpunk movement is composed of the former people: those
- who feel a certain romanticism to it yet completely misunderstand it, take
- drugs, talk computer grub (without knowing shit about computers), and listen
- to loud techno and industrial. Wake up, fellows, you'll never be computer
- criminals or street samurai: you are all destined to end up as yuppies,
- maybe even toys for the Yakuza :-).
-
- Greetings,
-
- Macbeth
-