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- From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
- Subject: Re: views on consciousness
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.210858.2144@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
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- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
- References: <serb.157@polisci.umn.edu> <robg.722057543@citr.uq.oz.au> <1992Nov19.175306.29289@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <Stafford-231192100136@stafford.winona.msus.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:08:58 GMT
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- In article <Stafford-231192100136@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes in part:
- |>
- |> 'Intuition' seems to fall into this catagory of 'meta-physical'
- |> events. Would you agree that intuition has often inspired and
- |> lead efforts to verify the tentative belief to yield acceptable
- |> (even hard) scientific assertions? Many scientists and others
- |> who work in the hard-logic areas will admit to being driven by
- |> intuition.
-
- Yes, creative people are often inspired by 'intuition', which
- are ideas that one has no clear idea where they come from.
-
- |> What this may indicate is that we have access to knowledge of the
- |> workings of the universe which we are not yet sophisticated enough to
- |> know directly -- that consciousness is at point in our evolution
- |> an animal sense of a 'relationship' with the universe which is
- |> sensed but unknowable.
-
- Hardly. Much of mental activity is 'unconscious'. There is nothing
- inherently 'meta-physical' about becoming aware of ideas or images
- that you can't exactly account for, as you are not normally aware
- of much of your own mental activity.
-
- It seems that sometimes people can draw conclusions or create ideas
- without being aware of the process. This is hardly a startling
- discovery, psychologists have been aware of this for over a century.
-
- Attributing this to "workings of the universe which we are not
- yet sophisticated enough to know directly" shows a definite lack
- of knowledge of how human mental activity actually works. Perhaps
- you should learn something about how ordinary humans work before
- you speculate about things you suppose to be human abilities.
-
- --
- Robert E. McGrath
- Urbana Illinois
- mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
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