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- From: robl@macro.viewlogic.com (Rob Limbert)
- Subject: Re: Cask Ale; Thomas Hardy
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.132607.11529@viewlogic.com>
- Originator: robl@macro
- Sender: robl@macro (Rob Limbert)
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- Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
- References: <1992Nov17.212825.27570@msc.cornell.edu>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:26:07 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.212825.27570@msc.cornell.edu>, bickham@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Scott Bickham,C17 Clark Hall,56079,2737038) writes:
- |> From article <1992Nov17.201506.7336@viewlogic.com>, by robl@macro.viewlogic.com (Rob Limbert):
- |> >
- |> > In article <1ebeagINNd2j@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
- |> > |> ...Calling it [Thomas Hardy's] a barley wine, therefore, is hardly
- |> > |> innaccurate. (On the other hand, calling Sam Adams Lager a Pilsner
- |> > |> would be).
- |> >
- |> > Out of curiosity, why (unless you're using the purist definition whereby
- |> > a Pilsner must come from Pilsen) would calling Sam Adams Lager a Pilsner
- |> > be inaccurate?
- |>
- |> It is inaccurate because a pilsener is a type of lager, but not vice-versa.
- |> Other types of lagers include Dortmunder Export, Oktoberfest, Munich
- |> Dunkel, and Bock beers to name a few. A Pilsener usually denotes a lager
- |> in either of the Bohemian and Bavarian styles, and for what it's worth,
- |> Budmilloors are American Standard Lagers. I would probably call Sam Adams
- |> lager an "American Amber Lager", although that is not usually one of
- |> the choices.
- |>
- |> Just when you thought ordering beer was simple ;-)
- |> Scott
-
- I don't think I _ever_ thought it was simple, at least not since I was in
- college, drinking only Old Milwaukee :-).
-
- Still, I'd argue that Sam Adams Lager fits essentially all the
- qualifications of a Pilsner (except, of course, that it's not from Pilsen).
- It's a lager with a gravity of about 1050, a hoppy palette, a flowery,
- hoppy aroma, and a golden color.
-
- And, though I feel guilty appealing to higher authority, Michael Jackson's
- 'New World Guide to Beer' calls Sam Adams the best example of a Pilsner
- produced in the U.S.. It may no longer be the best (that book's about 3
- years old), but I believe it's still a Pilsner by style. It isn't normally
- marketed as such, though I seem to remember one radio ad that referred to it
- as a Pilsner.
-
-
- Rob
-