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- From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
- Newsgroups: talk.environment
- Subject: Re: PBS Elementary/Secondary Service
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- Date: 28 Jul 92 19:58:45 GMT
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- In-reply-to: dean@vexcel.com's message of Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:47:49 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul28.184749.4618@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (dean alaska) writes:
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- Should abolitionists have been required to buy slaves to get them out
- of slavery? Can you suggest some rule of thumb for when some moral
- imperitive gets the force of law? The "establishment" of a moral
- imperitive will always be a problem in a society with rules. I detest
- the imposition of Christian morality on me by certain Christian groups
- but have no problem with the imposition of freedom for slaves. In the
- hypothetical case where ecocentrism gets strong support from the
- majority, when can society _impose_ this value on others, as it did
- when slaves were freed?
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- When the majority of society is willing to pay the price it takes
- to impose this will. At least that is the operational criterion.
- Slavery was ultimately abolished by force, and arguably the background
- for its abolition was set not by moral evolution but economics (and,
- no, I do not care to advance that argument further, merely note it
- and its implications). Of course this is also a function of how
- strongly the "minority" is willing to resist the impostion of a new
- moral imperative.
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- I don't have easy answers for these questions
- but I do reject what I consider to be simplistic solutions such as
- those offered by Libertarians who would draw a hard line after the
- human individual, who would have the right to do _anything_ that doesn't
- harm another human, but absolutely _nothing_ that impacts another human
- in some undesired way.
-
- yeah, curious creed libertarianism, offers a healthy counterbalance to
- statism at some level, never understood how they could assume
- individual rights and deny collective rights...
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- * Steinn Sigurdsson Lick Observatory *
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- * Just because there's a reason *
- * Doesn't mean it's understood Specials, 1979 *
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