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- From: elkies@ramanujan.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: An interesting limit problem.
- Message-ID: <1992Jul30.150656.14324@husc3.harvard.edu>
- Date: 30 Jul 92 19:06:54 GMT
- Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Jul30.150656.14324
- References: <1992Jul29.000223.27339@massey.ac.nz> <1992Jul29.115656.23253@gdr.bath.ac.uk> <MARTIN.92Jul29125203@lyra.cis.umassd.edu>
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- In article <MARTIN.92Jul29125203@lyra.cis.umassd.edu>
- martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin) writes:
- >And have we even had a proof that the limit is 1 that didn't use a machine?
-
- The proof I posted only used the machine to substitute one power series
- into another, which is just straightforward arithmetic --- it could have
- been done easily by hand in a few minutes, but why bother?
-
- >There was one posting that made the substitution y=tan(sin x) (or something
- >similar) and claimed that the result was the reciprocal of the original
- >expression, but I don't think that claim was correct.
-
- Me neither --- and even if it was, one would still have to show that the
- limit exists and does not equal -1. But that posting did contain the kernel
- of an idea that does provide a valid proof along the lines indicated in
- V.Miller's recent posting. Basically we are comparing the commutators
- [f,g] and [F,G] in the infinite-dimensional Lie group of power series
- a1*x+a2*x^2+... (a1<>0) under composition, with F,G the inverse functions
- of f,g; these commutators either both reduce to the identity (the power
- series x) or are both of the form x+an*x^n+... with the same n. This
- also leads to an explanation of the fact that in our case f=sin,g=tan
- (with both f,g odd functions with leading coefficient 1) the difference
- f(g)-g(f) [and so also F(G)-G(F)] vanishes to 7th order at the origin.
-
- > 2 2
- > sin sin
- > --- x - --- x
- > cos cos 0
- >----------------------- = --- = 0. (Though they might leave out the
- > 2 2 2 2 0 equal signs, too. :( )
- >Arc sin Arc sin
- >------- x - ------- x
- > 2 2
- > cos cos
-
- 5 2
- Ouch. Do they automatically write 2 9 = 2592 too? ;-)
-
- --Noam D. Elkies (elkies@zariski.harvard.edu)
- Department of Mathematics, Harvard University
-