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- From: cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Hailstone sequences
- Message-ID: <1992Jul26.000925.12121@cl.cam.ac.uk>
- Date: 26 Jul 92 00:09:25 GMT
- References: <2020@bigfoot.first.gmd.de> <1992Jul18.115039.25704@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> <CHALCRAFT.92Jul24095243@zebedee.uk.tele.nokia.fi>
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- In article <CHALCRAFT.92Jul24095243@zebedee.uk.tele.nokia.fi>,
- chalcraft@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Adam Chalcraft) writes:
- |>
- |> The result that on the positive integers, the function
- |> f(x)=3x+1 or x/2
- |> seems to eventually send every positive integer to 1, whereas the function
- |> f(x)=3x-1 or x/2
- |> does not is rather strange. Clearly the first function is "larger" than
- |> the second. All that this shows, of course, is that the word "larger" has
- |> no useful meaning here, and so any proof that the first function always
- |> goes to 1 must use something a bit more subtle.
-
- What one would hope to prove (if one were insanely optimistic) would be
- that all sufficiently large integers have eventual iterates smaller than
- themselves. How many cycles there are that they might then converge to
- would be a matter of "chance".
-
- One way of looking at this is to observe that a cycle with a rises and
- b falls multiplies the original number by 3^a/2^b, with a little
- pertubation due to the 1s. So one looks for cases where 3^a ~= 2^b:
-
- 3 > 2 3x-1 needed: cycle does exist (1,2)
- 3 < 4 3x+1 needed: cycle does exist (1,4,2)
- 9 > 8 3x-1 needed: cycle does exist (5,14,7,20,10)
- 27 < 32 3x+1 needed: cycle doesn't exist ... ah well
- 243 < 256 3x+1 needed: cycle doesn't exist ... life is unfair
- 2187 > 2048 3x-1 needed: cycle does exist (17,50,25,74,37,110,55,164,82,41,
- 122,61,182,91,272,136,68,34)
-
- It isn't too difficult to see how one can bound the perturbation caused
- by the +1 or -1, and thus put an upper bound on the smallest member of
- any posssible cycle that has particular values of a and b.
-
- The same sort of argument applies to the Conway permutation sequence
- generated by 2n->3n, 4n+1->3n+1, 4n-1->3n-1 that I mentioned in another
- article, except that here the perturbations are smaller and are both
- positive and negative. A cycle of length r contaniing s odd numbers should
- make 3^r ~= 2^(r+s). I showed the cycles of lengths 1, 2 and 5 and
- invited readers to find the other known one, but I did reveal its length.
- I should have kept that concealed as well and suggested that anyone wanting
- to guess it should look at the nearest piano...
-
- Chris Thompson
- Cambridge University Computing Service
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