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- From: merlyn@romulus.reed.edu (Randal L. Schwartz)
- Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
- Subject: Re: Troff vs FrameMaker Productivity
- Message-ID: <MERLYN.92Jul23142709@romulus.reed.edu>
- Date: 23 Jul 92 21:27:14 GMT
- Article-I.D.: romulus.MERLYN.92Jul23142709
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- In-Reply-To: hamm@austoto.sps.mot.com's message of 22 Jul 92 16:46:12 GMT
-
- regarding the AT&T memo:
-
- this exactly fits my experiences as a technical author for the past 15 years.
-
- A WYSIWYG is great for 1-up posters and small documents, but the
- moment something gets to be over 20 pages long or written by more than
- one author or maintained over time, you lose -- in a major way.
-
- And guess which kind of document is most often created in the industry?
-
- You'd think someone would have figger'ed it out by now. :-)
-
- Case in point:
-
- I co-wrote "Programming Perl" (from O'Reilly and Associates) with
- Larry Wall (the creator of the Perl language). We were 1000 miles
- apart for all but the signing party at its debut. Yet we achieved
- clean solid seamless merging of our respective texts because I was
- able to provide a limited troff macro package that forced us to focus
- on the writing and not the representation.
-
- Now, I face a similar challenge on its sequel (tentatively titled
- "Learning Perl"), but with FrameMaker (on a Mac) rather than troff
- (all of OR&A's books are being done in Frame these days). My
- experience so far has been that the process is *much* slower, because
- I have to keep thinking about design issues. And I haven't even
- *begun* the phase of the work that will involve collaberation, but
- just thinking through the process is scaring me already.
-
- For example, sometimes I'd send a piece of troff text to larry. He'd
- edit it, and send me back the edited version. I'd simply run that
- through diff (even if I had changed the draft in the meanwhile), and
- boom, there's the parts he changed. Way too easy to merge! Try
- *that* with a Frame doc!
-
- And I could also send the doc to others. Troff is nearly universal
- now that there's a GNU -roff. And even if they didn't want to format
- it, the source text is recognizable even with the embedded formatting
- controls. MIF? You've got to be kidding.
-
- I'm not even going to bring up what the performance differences are
- for me between a good command-line interface that I can layer with
- scripts, and a stoopid point-and-shoot mac-type luser interface.
-
- Grumph. "Learning Perl" is going to be a tough project. Down with
- WYSIWYGs for big things!
-
- Just another Perl (and Frame) hacker,
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