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From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca 22-Oct-99 17:18:13
To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Suggestions
From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (John Hong)
Any suggestions for low-end AGP video cards? S3, Trident, Cirrus?
The only S3 AGP that I can get here is the AOpen PG128Plus which uses that
S3 Trio3D/2X chipset which has no OS/2 support, it was the PG128 that used
the Trio3D chipset that had OS/2 support. Any opinions on the
Trident/Cirrus offerings? As good, better than say a S3 ViRGE/DX?
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From: lsc1999@pd.jaring.my 23-Oct-99 05:40:23
To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: !!! Best vcd shopping site I have seen !!!
From: "Movie Baby"<lsc1999@pd.jaring.my>
Hi movie fans
I found a best vcd shopping site that I have even seen and which I feel I
should share with all of you.
Please have a visit to http://vcdshop.net
From
Movie baby
lsc1999@pd.jaring.my
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From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com 23-Oct-99 02:37:29
To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Suggestions
From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:18:27, jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (John Hong)
wrote:
> Any suggestions for low-end AGP video cards? S3, Trident, Cirrus?
> The only S3 AGP that I can get here is the AOpen PG128Plus which uses that
> S3 Trio3D/2X chipset which has no OS/2 support, it was the PG128 that used
> the Trio3D chipset that had OS/2 support. Any opinions on the
> Trident/Cirrus offerings? As good, better than say a S3 ViRGE/DX?
Sorry, not an answer, some questions:
I have an IBM Personal Computer 300PL with what is succinctly
described as an S3Trio 3D card. It works very well indeed with OS/2.
However, I haven't been able to get XFree86 to recognise it.
I haven't downloaded the latest XFree86 (3.3.5) because I am confused
as to whether it would support my S3Trio 3D card. I need more
information:
1. The exact description of my S3Trio 3D card. I am right in
assuming from jhong's post that it would be the PG128?
2. If I took the top off my case, could I verify that it was the PG128
by looking at the integrated chip?
3. How do I get the top back on again? (just kidding, I'll get some
strong bloke to do it for me)
4. After all the hassle, would XFree86 3.5.5 actually support my
S3Trio 3D card?
Ta,
bab
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From: JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be 22-Oct-99 21:03:27
To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: A90
From: "Jean-Michel Dossogne" < JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be>
Hello All.
scitech or others - what's best for a diamond speedstar a90? It uses a S3
savage4 chipset but is only delivered with zin drivers. Thanks!
Jean-Michel
+++++++++++++++++
+ Doggy's Internet Gateway - +32-71-666292 - V34+ & X75
+ Disclaimer: Les articles n'engagent QUE leurs auteurs, pas la passerelle
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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net 23-Oct-99 04:39:28
To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: Dual Display under Warp
From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net
In <19991018.7522395@pc_geza.tcl.hu>, <wpooh@freemail.c3.hu> writes:
>> >Is it possible to use Warp 4.0 (no fix) with two (one AGP and one PCI=
>
>> >) display adapter?
>
>> AFAIK it should be possible with Scitech Display Doctor for OS/2 (at=20=
>
>least in
>> the final release). Check http://www.scitechsoft.com
>
>> cu
>
>> Adrian
>
>My question wasn't clear enough I think... (my fault)
>I'd like to ask if it is possible to *have* two display adapter in one=20=
>
>computer while I use warp 4 on it? I don't need the 'dual display'=20
>feature like G400. I only need the two cards in my box.
>So, could this work?
>
>Bye
>
>Janos
The answer is yes, you can have two display adapters in Warp 3 or 4,
but there are some specific rules which must be followed.
Unless they are IBM XGA adapters, there must be a hierarchy, such
as VGA and mono, or VGA and EGA.
In the case of VGA and mono, only text output can appear on the mono
display, either in VIO or VDM operation, and, of course, one must have
the software to be able to use this capability.
I currently have SVGA and mono with Warp 4, and have programs which
use both displays simultaneously. I also run single DOS programs which
display text only, and can run them on the mono display, while running other
programs simultaneously on the SVGA display.
Although I have not seen it, IBMer's have told me that a hierarchy is not
necessary with two XGA displays, but this requires programs which can
address the different output ports of the two display adapters.
In one other use, I have heard of one company which makes a multi-port
display adapter with will allow up to 4 SVGA displays. This requires special
drivers for the board, and also special programs.
Perhaps if you could be more specific about what you would like to see,
it would be possible to give you a better answer.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fred Springfield for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk 23-Oct-99 11:49:08
To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Monitor capabilities
From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)
How do I determine the capabilities of a 'no-name' monitor?
Is there any way to identify the manufacturer if there is no
distinguishing label?
--
John
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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 23-Oct-99 11:44:12
To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Re: Dual Display under Warp
From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu
In article <c1.2c.2SbtfN$06E@bozo.pro-ns.net>,
jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote:
> >My question wasn't clear enough I think... (my fault)
> >I'd like to ask if it is possible to *have* two display adapter in
> >one computer while I use warp 4 on it? I don't need the 'dual
> >display feature like G400. I only need the two cards in my box.
> >So, could this work?
> >
> The answer is yes, you can have two display adapters in Warp 3 or 4,
> but there are some specific rules which must be followed.
>
> Unless they are IBM XGA adapters, there must be a hierarchy, such
> as VGA and mono, or VGA and EGA.
>
> In the case of VGA and mono, only text output can appear on the mono
> display, either in VIO or VDM operation, and, of course, one must
> have the software to be able to use this capability.
No no no... What he wants to do is have two video cards installed, but
only install drivers for and use one under OS/2, while having drivers
installed and use the other under a non-OS/2 OS, assumably Windows.
He doesn't want to use the cards at the same time, and frankly, I don't
know if you can do that! :)
--
-Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: scalisi@tin.it 23-Oct-99 13:39:03
To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: Dual Display under Warp
From: scalisi@tin.it
In <kgkMOEax9yICfUgDICHIZY+WoL9g@4ax.com>, on 10/19/99
at 06:55 AM, Bovine Unit #243 <bov243@pasture.net> said:
>>> >Is it possible to use Warp 4.0 (no fix) with two (one AGP and one PCI
>>> >) display adapter?
>>> AFAIK it should be possible with Scitech Display Doctor for OS/2 (at
>>> least in the final release). Check http://www.scitechsoft.com
>>My question wasn't clear enough I think... (my fault)
>>I'd like to ask if it is possible to *have* two display adapter in one
>>computer while I use warp 4 on it? I don't need the 'dual display'
>>feature like G400. I only need the two cards in my box.
>>So, could this work?
>For PCI (and possibly AGP), it's possible to have more than 1 video adaptor
>simultaneously. But to use them, you'll need proper software drivers.
>When you have multiple video adaptors, my guess is the video card with
>lowest memory location would be used.
I remember that in old day of PS/2 that have an integrated VGA adapter on MB,
you can connect an XGA video card and use two display; the VGA in text mode
for full or windowed session, and the XGA as primary display. I think that
that option is still valid.
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Antonio(Nino) Scalisi scalisi@tin.it
at 13:39(+0200, relative to GMT) on Saturday, 23 Oct 1999
Using MR/2 ICE v1.68 Reg: #20729.
Under ---> OS/2 WARP 4 rev.9.036 (fixpack 12)
Java ver. 1.1.8 build 19990910
ObjREXX 6.00 TCPIP 4.2 - MPTN 6.2007 (TCPIP 4.1 + W08620)
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From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com 23-Oct-99 10:44:13
To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: A90
From: John Youells <jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com>
"Jean-Michel Dossogne" < JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be> wrote:
>Hello All.
>
>scitech or others - what's best for a diamond speedstar a90? It uses a S3
>savage4 chipset but is only delivered with zin drivers. Thanks!
>
>Jean-Michel
>+++++++++++++++++
>+ Doggy's Internet Gateway - +32-71-666292 - V34+ & X75
>+ Disclaimer: Les articles n'engagent QUE leurs auteurs, pas la passerelle
Right now it's you can choose either between S3's 6.10.15 (s3.nextmill.com)
OS/2
savage famly driver and Scitech's newly posted SDD/2 Beta 9
ftp.scitechsoft.com
. Speedwise they are close, it depends on the features that you want.
John Youells
LifeStream Computing
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From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com 23-Oct-99 10:47:04
To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: Dual Display under Warp
From: John Youells <jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com>
jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote:
>In <19991018.7522395@pc_geza.tcl.hu>, <wpooh@freemail.c3.hu> writes:
>>> >Is it possible to use Warp 4.0 (no fix) with two (one AGP and one PCI=
>>
>>> >) display adapter?
>>
>>> AFAIK it should be possible with Scitech Display Doctor for OS/2 (at=20=
>>
>>least in
>>> the final release). Check http://www.scitechsoft.com
>>
>>> cu
>>
>>> Adrian
>>
>>My question wasn't clear enough I think... (my fault)
>>I'd like to ask if it is possible to *have* two display adapter in one=20=
>>
>>computer while I use warp 4 on it? I don't need the 'dual display'=20
>>feature like G400. I only need the two cards in my box.
>>So, could this work?
>>
>>Bye
>>
>>Janos
>
>
>The answer is yes, you can have two display adapters in Warp 3 or 4,
>but there are some specific rules which must be followed.
>
>Unless they are IBM XGA adapters, there must be a hierarchy, such
>as VGA and mono, or VGA and EGA.
>
>In the case of VGA and mono, only text output can appear on the mono
>display, either in VIO or VDM operation, and, of course, one must have
>the software to be able to use this capability.
>
>I currently have SVGA and mono with Warp 4, and have programs which
>use both displays simultaneously. I also run single DOS programs which
>display text only, and can run them on the mono display, while running other
>programs simultaneously on the SVGA display.
>
>Although I have not seen it, IBMer's have told me that a hierarchy is not
>necessary with two XGA displays, but this requires programs which can
>address the different output ports of the two display adapters.
>
>In one other use, I have heard of one company which makes a multi-port
>display adapter with will allow up to 4 SVGA displays. This requires special
>drivers for the board, and also special programs.
>
>Perhaps if you could be more specific about what you would like to see,
>it would be possible to give you a better answer.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>Fred Springfield for e-mail remove 'xxx'
>Plymouth, MN
>-----------------------------------------------------------
Also Elsa 3000L, 3000M and probably 3000S (virge) have a dualboard gradd
driver
but ELSA have not updated their OS/2 drivers in quite awhile
John Youells
LifeStream Computing
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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 23-Oct-99 08:36:27
To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Odd ATI RageII+ problem
From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>
I've discovered an odd problem with my ATI setup. The system works
normally with the ATI drivers in almost all cases, but I can make it
hang without fail by starting a fullscreen OS/2 session with a working
directory specified. After rebooting I find it had trapped in
VIDEOPMI.DLL. The hang isn't a whole-system hang, for example the rest
of the family can keep right on web surfing through the firewall on this
machine, but the only keys which still work on it are Ctrl-Alt-Del.
Fullscreen and windowed OS/2, DOS and Win-OS2 otherwise all work
normally. The ATI drivers are the "latest", being as they're the only
ones available, and they're off the CD that came with it, labelled
release 435. The system is W4 with FP12. I've no idea when this started,
nor even if it has been like it for the whole 18 months or so since I
installed the ATI card; I don't use fullscreen OS/2 sessions very often!
I'm interested to know if anyone else has experienced this, and even
more interested to know if anyone has a solution (other than using IBM's
or Scitech's GRADD drivers, which I have chosen not to use at this time
for performance and stability reasons respectively).
Graham.
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From: p.engels@gmx.de 23-Oct-99 18:06:23
To: All 23-Oct-99 16:48:03
Subj: Re: Odd ATI RageII+ problem
From: "Peter Engels" <p.engels@gmx.de>
Hi Graham,
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:36:55 -0700, Graham C. Norris wrote:
>I've discovered an odd problem with my ATI setup. The system works
>normally with the ATI drivers in almost all cases, but I can make it
>hang without fail by starting a fullscreen OS/2 session with a working
>directory specified. After rebooting I find it had trapped in
>VIDEOPMI.DLL. The hang isn't a whole-system hang, for example the rest
>of the family can keep right on web surfing through the firewall on this
>machine, but the only keys which still work on it are Ctrl-Alt-Del.
I had the same problem with Ver. 435. Try to replace the BVHSVGA.DLL by
a newer one.
>
>Fullscreen and windowed OS/2, DOS and Win-OS2 otherwise all work
>normally. The ATI drivers are the "latest", being as they're the only
I don't believe it : Have you ever tried to start a pure
DOS-application from within WinOS2 using the FileManager? My system
allways crashs completely.
This OS/2 system uptime is 02 hours, 28 minutes and 41 seconds.
--
MfG / Regards
Peter Engels
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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi 23-Oct-99 20:46:21
To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:21
Subj: Re: Scitech Device Docter beta 9 and Matrox G400
From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:27:46, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
wrote:
> The latest beta (version 9) off the SDD/2 drivers now
> work with my Matrox G400 16 Mbyte AGP card installed
> on a machine running WSeB SMP.
You probably meant beta 8, didn't you? Or where did you find beta 9?
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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 23-Oct-99 23:03:06
To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Re: Scitech Device Docter beta 9 and Matrox G400
From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:46:43, domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
wrote:
:where did you find beta 9?
ftp://ftp.scitechsoft.com/sdd/beta/os2
--
Klaatu barada nikto
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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 23-Oct-99 16:54:16
To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Re: Odd ATI RageII+ problem
From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>
Peter Engels wrote:
> I had the same problem with Ver. 435. Try to replace the BVHSVGA.DLL by
> a newer one.
Thanks, John Youells has sent me a patched one too. I'll report back on
what happens.
> >Fullscreen and windowed OS/2, DOS and Win-OS2 otherwise all work
> >normally.
>
> I don't believe it : Have you ever tried to start a pure
> DOS-application from within WinOS2 using the FileManager? My system
> allways crashs completely.
No, I can't say I've ever tried to do that: I can't see the point as
OS/2 does a perfectly good job of starting them directly.
Graham.
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 24-Oct-99 01:47:26
To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Scitech Device Docter beta 9 and Matrox G400
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:46:43, domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:27:46, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
> wrote:
>
> > The latest beta (version 9) off the SDD/2 drivers now
> > work with my Matrox G400 16 Mbyte AGP card installed
> > on a machine running WSeB SMP.
>
> You probably meant beta 8, didn't you? Or where did you find beta 9?
It's the latest one on the www.scitechsoft.com web site. There was
an annnouncement on www.warpcast.com about it.
Granted beta 8 was out only a little while ago, I was surprised
- pleasantly it turns out - that a new beta was available so quickly.
I've trying out this (SDD/2) and two different video cards on
my WSeB SMP machine for quite a while. This is the first one
that works - and it works really well. The earlier versions would
work on normal Warp 4 but not WSeN SMP.
Lorne Sunley
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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 23-Oct-99 22:13:03
To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Odd ATI RageII+ problem: cured
From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>
Thanks to input from John and Peter this problem is now cured. What I
ended up doing was to extract the BVHVGA.DLL, BVHSVGA.DLL and
VIDEOPMI.DLL files from SDD beta 9's DLLS file and used those instead. I
think these actually come with IBM's GRADD 0.080, but I've not checked.
At any rate, I can now get back to what I was trying to do before I
discovered this problem: getting XFree86/OS2 running on this machine.
Thanks again,
Graham.
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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 24-Oct-99 08:23:05
To: All 24-Oct-99 10:19:13
Subj: Re: TNT Refresh rate
From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)
Alexander Ehrnrooth (aeh@sci.fi) wrote:
: I just upgraded my video card to STB Velocity 4400. The nVidia drivers
: work well except only at 60 Hz. Any way to increase the refresh rate?
Try editing the monitor.dif file in your X:\OS2\ directory. Keep
in mind you will need your monitor's documentation in order to insert the
accurate information.
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From: fedor@bu.edu 24-Oct-99 13:49:29
To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: Monitor capabilities
From: Fedor Kouranov <fedor@bu.edu>
On 10/23/99 jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
>How do I determine the capabilities of a 'no-name' monitor?
if (monitor.age > 5 years) {
ditch(monitor);
buy(new monitor);
} else {
while (monitor.isFunctioning) {
increase(load);
}
}
Really, "newer" monitors will not try to work beyond their capabilities,
thus you can safely try increasing sync frequencies, resolutions etc.
"Older" monitors might burn, but then again, a solid 15" is real cheap now.
Fedor
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From: JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be 24-Oct-99 08:46:25
To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: A90
From: "Jean-Michel Dossogne" < JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be>
Hello John.
Samedi 23 Octobre 1999 07:44, John Youells wrote to All:
>> scitech or others - what's best for a diamond speedstar a90? It uses a S3
>> savage4 chipset but is only delivered with zin drivers. Thanks!
JY> Right now it's you can choose either between S3's 6.10.15
JY> (s3.nextmill.com) OS/2 savage famly driver
did not knew that one, thanks
JY> and Scitech's newly posted SDD/2 Beta 9 ftp.scitechsoft.com ..
JY> Speedwise they are close,
good
JY> it depends on the features that you want.
1024x768 at 75hz on an aoc 17" screen with decent speed, that's it!
Jean-Michel
+++++++++++++++++
+ Doggy's Internet Gateway - +32-71-666292 - V34+ & X75
+ Disclaimer: Les articles n'engagent QUE leurs auteurs, pas la passerelle
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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk 24-Oct-99 21:46:15
To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: BVHSVGA.DLL
From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)
Is BVHSVGA.DLL a generic OS/2 file, ie. does the one file handle all video,
or is there always specific version to go with a particular video chip?
I seem to have accumulated quite a few copies frrom video drivers for
different video chips, as well as GRADD and SciTech versions.....
--
John
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From: David.Zuidema@sci.monash.edu.au 25-Oct-99 08:22:25
To: All 24-Oct-99 21:21:06
Subj: S3 install garbled
From: David Zuidema <David.Zuidema@sci.monash.edu.au>
I have a powergraph 64video card (s3) and am using it with the GRADD0.80
drivers. Although the driver is generally OK (scrolling text stuffs up
the fonts) I wanted to install the S3 3.03.16 drivers. I reboot to VGA
and install the drivers, but when the desktop comes up the screen is
totally garbled (just video noise). The readme on IBM's device driver
web site says to install the original dspres.dll which I did without any
change. There is a way to fix this but I am at a loss at the moment.
--
_________________________________________
David Zuidema, Computer Resources Manager
Department of Physics, Monash University
(OS/2, PS/2 and Windoze too!)
http://www.physics.monash.edu.au/~davidz
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From: tabrown@nospam.ibm.net 25-Oct-99 00:19:20
To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: SIS 530/5595 - Invalid video signal
From: tabrown@nospam.ibm.net (Tom Brown)
I am running Warp 4.0 + FP 12 on a clone system with an SIS 530/5595
chipset on the motherboard. When Warp goes into the text mode part of
the boot process my monitor displays an error message stating that the
singal is invalid and giving the requencies being received as: 27.7
kHz (H) x 62 Hz (V). The same thing happens if I open an OS/2 Full
Screen session. DOS Full Screen sessions work OK.
Any ideas as to how to get a usable signal in these modes? Does anyone
know what parameters Warp is using? My desktop runs at 1280x1024x16 @
80Hz.
Any recommendations gratefully received! Thanks!
Tom Brown
tabrown@nospam.ibm.net
remove nospam to reply
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From: tabrown@nospam.ibm.net 25-Oct-99 00:22:21
To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: SIS 530/5595 - Invalid video signal
From: tabrown@nospam.ibm.net (Tom Brown)
Forgot to mention: monitor is a Nokia 447Xi Plus, 17", driver is IBM
GRADD, V 0.80.
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:19:41, tabrown@nospam.ibm.net (Tom Brown)
wrote:
> I am running Warp 4.0 + FP 12 on a clone system with an SIS 530/5595
> chipset on the motherboard. When Warp goes into the text mode part of
> the boot process my monitor displays an error message stating that the
> singal is invalid and giving the requencies being received as: 27.7
> kHz (H) x 62 Hz (V). The same thing happens if I open an OS/2 Full
> Screen session. DOS Full Screen sessions work OK.
>
> Any ideas as to how to get a usable signal in these modes? Does anyone
> know what parameters Warp is using? My desktop runs at 1280x1024x16 @
> 80Hz.
>
> Any recommendations gratefully received! Thanks!
>
>
> Tom Brown
> tabrown@nospam.ibm.net
> remove nospam to reply
Tom Brown
tabrown@nospam.ibm.net
remove nospam to reply
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From: rsteiner@visi.com 24-Oct-99 20:07:18
To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: Monitor capabilities
From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)
Here in comp.os.os2.setup.video, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)
spake unto us, saying:
>How do I determine the capabilities of a 'no-name' monitor?
I just try various video modes and see which ones work. The key is to
not let the magic smoke get out. :-)
Thankfully, most good monitors made in the past few years will perform
a temporary shut down if you exceed their specs, meaning it's much more
difficult to fry a monitor now than it was five years ago.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
You can't roller skate in a buffalo herd....
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From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com 25-Oct-99 05:06:08
To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: S3 install garbled
From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com (John Youells)
David Zuidema <David.Zuidema@sci.monash.edu.au> wrote:
>I have a powergraph 64video card (s3) and am using it with the GRADD0.80
>drivers. Although the driver is generally OK (scrolling text stuffs up
>the fonts) I wanted to install the S3 3.03.16 drivers. I reboot to VGA
>and install the drivers, but when the desktop comes up the screen is
>totally garbled (just video noise). The readme on IBM's device driver
>web site says to install the original dspres.dll which I did without any
>change. There is a way to fix this but I am at a loss at the moment.
First boot to the command line with ALT-F2 and make sure all the gradd entries
are removed from comfig.sys. Then boot with ALT-F2 again and install VGA
drivers
then install the S3 non gradd drivers.
BTW, 3.0.3.29 (S3, Inc. Vision864/964/868/968/Trio32/64/64V+/64V2/3D Version
3.03.29 Built 13 Jul 1998 12:14pm) is available from ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/
the IBM PCCO BBS - it's a little newer than 3.03.16. You could also try
Scitech's SDD/2 7.0 Beta 9 - it now runs pretty well on the Trio, Virge, and
Savage families.
John Youells
LifeStream Computing
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From: zeppelin@gte.net 25-Oct-99 06:01:04
To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: hauppauge was:Scitech DD & Trap 0006
From: "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net>
Steen Bondo wrote:
> zeppelin@gte.net wrote in a message to All:
>
> zg> Hauppauge Win-Cast PCI capture card,
>
> Do you use this from OS/2 - WarpTV ?? <<<<<<<< no, THE WinCast card
> doesn't yet work with Warp TV per Tim Snape of Abbottsbury software,
> some office of IBM in England (or environs, it's all the same GB) is
> supposedly working on this, but you know how IBM says one thing and
> then.........
>
> > ATI 3D Pro Turbo Pc2TV
>
> This is ? PC video signal --> TV scart/aerial input ? < actually, no.
> It's more like: PC video signal at composite output jack------>Sony
> SBV66S video switch \I---------> TV
\ I---------> VCR
> --
> Steen
--
"Windows N.T." ........OS/2 for the masses?
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From: ivask@gaia.gi.ee 25-Oct-99 09:03:18
To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: Suggestions
From: Jyri Ivask <ivask@gaia.gi.ee>
babnospam@nospambigpond.com wrote:
> I have an IBM Personal Computer 300PL with what is succinctly
> described as an S3Trio 3D card. It works very well indeed with OS/2.
> However, I haven't been able to get XFree86 to recognise it.
>
> I haven't downloaded the latest XFree86 (3.3.5) because I am confused
> as to whether it would support my S3Trio 3D card. I need more
> information:
The latest XFree86 (3.3.5) supports the S3Trio3D cards.
In OS/2 you have the following options:
S3 driver: get the latest (4.10.08) from the IBM PC support site
IBM Gradd080: install as: setup virge (S3Trio3D belongs to the Virge family)
Scitech Display Doctor: beta 9 is announced to work now with S3 chipsets.
Best regards
Jüri Ivask
ivask@gi.ee
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From: sbo@hehe.com 25-Oct-99 07:38:01
To: All 25-Oct-99 07:11:26
Subj: trick the video card ?
From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo)
Jyri Ivask wrote in a message to Steen Bondo:
> S3 Trio 3D/2X 86C362
JI> It seems, that the only option for you is to install the ibmgradd80
JI> driver
And you know exectly where to find it? To save me from searching/poking.
...
Don't the installation try to do a HW test in the end.? If so, it will
take me back to VGA for sure, and refuse to install the drivers. (
Selective Install does as well)
--
Steen
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From: aeh@sci.fi 25-Oct-99 11:54:23
To: All 25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Scitech Display Doctor
From: Alexander Ehrnrooth <aeh@sci.fi>
Hi
Exactly how to totally uninstall sdd?
The described routine
leaves something behind. If you
reinstall the same sdd version
the number of days left picks up where
it was left. Why I'm
asking is that after uninstalling sdd
I've been trying nvidia's
drivers as well as gradds and I can't
set the refresh rate other
than 60. In the box where you choose
your monitor one alternative
is Scitech Display Doctor which for sure
has been uninstalled.
I'm not going to use a beta version,
uninstall it after 21 days
and then reinstall it to avoid buying
it, instead, I'd like to
try if the presence of some remnants of
sdd adversely affects
the installation of the other drivers.
Sdd has some bugs, in my
case Winos2 hangs and some small
flickering on the screen when
poking around with the mouse cursor
inside a window. That's why
I want to use the gradd drivers, the
higher refresh rates OTOH
are why I use sdd. So, if someone knows
how to *totally*
eradicate sdd from the system please
tell!
TIA
Alex
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From: sbo@hehe.com 25-Oct-99 13:13:02
To: All 25-Oct-99 14:48:15
Subj: trick the video card ?
From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo)
Jyri Ivask wrote in a message to Steen Bondo:
"S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP 2X - 64Bits 3D Graphics Accelerator" - Chipset
86C362
JI> It seems, that the only option for you is to install the ibmgradd80
JI> driver and use the virge option:
I used:
BBS Video Build Level 14.037
"GEN" - GENGRADD Generic SVGA
Neither of those worked.
"S3" - S3 864/Trio
"VIRGE" - S3 Virge
The files are generally from 2-3/99
My old ERT6000 card was faster than this, on a slower machine -
probably because I don't run accelerated at the moment...
This installation worked fine, because it doesn't make a HW test for
the monitor
- so now I know it's possible. I'll just keep my eyes open for a newer <
graddbb.zip>....
Thanks everybody.!
--
Steen
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From: ivask@gaia.gi.ee 25-Oct-99 16:12:08
To: All 25-Oct-99 14:48:15
Subj: Re: trick the video card ?
From: Jyri Ivask <ivask@gaia.gi.ee>
Steen Bondo wrote:
> Jyri Ivask wrote in a message to Steen Bondo:
>
> > S3 Trio 3D/2X 86C362
>
> JI> It seems, that the only option for you is to install the ibmgradd80
> JI> driver
>
> And you know exectly where to find it? To save me from searching/poking.
I write:
Try:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/videopak/graddbb/
and download a package gradd080.exe .
I worked for me, I installed it using "setup virge" command.
However, I have S3Trio3D without 2X.
And no, it does not detect the card at the end, it only tries to detect the
monitor and if it does not find it in the monitor database it starts the
video driver in the VGA mode. However, you should be able to select your
monitor later on the 2nd page of system notebook and if you don't find
yours, try to find something simlar like Phillip Davenport posted earlier.
Best regards
Jüri Ivask
ivask@gi.ee
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From: sbo@hehe.com 26-Oct-99 12:17:19
To: All 26-Oct-99 10:18:02
Subj: comment on "trick the video card ?"
From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo)
Hi
Istalled <gradd080.exe> on "S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP 2X - 64Bits 3D Graphics
Accelerator - Chipset 86C362"
Unfortunately I can't run accellerated, possibly due to my old monitor.
The only arg where I get a working video is "gen" - so no 2X. But
absolutely useable.!! I run 1024x768x65K...
1)
I like to have "mode 80,102" in my prompts, which I prefer to have two
or three of at the same time, on the same screen. But something gets
confused when I use the clipboard in these sessions, because they
extend to the buttom of the WP, and that was not where I wanted them to
be. I have tried 800x600 - same result.
2)
In the former paragraph I wrote "on the same screen", I did this
because I use SkyScraber to give me a number(8) of different WPs. But
SkyScraber can't handle these prompt-sessions correct either. When I
try to "restore", it garbles up these sessions.
3)
From time to time text seems to disappear in Lotus Wordpro/Approach,
but normally some patience, or use of PgUp/PgDn, solves it.
The two first remarks came alive after GRADD driver, it wasn't there in
os/2-vga mode. The third one came with "S3Trio etc", it wasn't there
with ET6000.
Pt nags I can accept. :-)
--
Steen
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From: garyka@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 09:27:18
To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Drivers for Diamond Viper V550 PCI Video Adapter
From: Gk <garyka@my-deja.com>
WHICH DRIVER WOULD I SELECT FOR THE vIPER v550 :
1. RIVA 128
2. RIVA 128ZX
3. RIVA TNT/RIVA TNT2/NVIDIA Vanta
THANKS
GARY
.
In article <drcEOEpfYtK+WS975bEwrTFJMCyo@4ax.com>,
John Youells <jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com> wrote:
> lonewulf@earthling.net (Bill Gillespie) wrote:
>
> >Thanks for reading this.
> >
> >I am looking for drivers for a Diamond Viper V550 PCI Video Adapter
(16 meg).
> >
> >The only drivers listed on their web page are for Win 9x & NT4, but
I have
> >successfully used this card with Linux (Redhat 6.0 & 6.1).
> >
> >If you know of nay drivers please let me know. Thanks
> >
> >
> >Bill Gillespie <lonewulf@earthling.net>
> >New Westminster, B. C. Canada
> >================================
> There are OS/2 Warp 3 and Warp 4 Gradd Accelerated drivers for the
TNT, TNT2 on
> nVidia's website: www.nvidia.com ... work OK here but only at 60hz
refresh
>
> John Youells
> LifeStream Computing
>
--
BAT
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: jimburke@ionet.net 26-Oct-99 17:51:29
To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: SciTech Display Doctor freezes coputer, monitor
From: jimburke@ionet.net (Jim Burke)
Not able to read their newsgroups here.
"Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com> wrote:
>Every time someone posts here with SDD problems instead of posting in
>Scitech's own newsgroup setup for this purpose it makes me wonder how
>much else hasn't been read.
>Graham.
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From: mr_ace@gmx.de 26-Oct-99 19:09:04
To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: G400 Frame Rate
From: mr_ace@gmx.de
Hi folks!
I'm not able to play a full screen mpeg movie at more the 8 fps under Warp4
and a
PII 350 MHz. (IBM OpenMpeg)
Something must be very wrong. Is it the slow MATROX driver or something else.
With Win95 you can play the video at full speed, but I do NOT want to boot
windows
to watch a movie (BTW: I do not want to boot windows for any other reason!
:-))
What frame rates do you get and does anybody have a suggestion?
Thanxx in advance!
Andi
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From: nospam_evr@spam.net 26-Oct-99 16:26:23
To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: SciTech Display Doctor freezes coputer, monitor
From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:51:59 GMT, Jim Burke wrote:
>Not able to read their newsgroups here.
>
Try:
http://www.scitechsoft.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=xover&group=scitech.display.do
ctor.os2.beta&utag=
You can read and post from a browser, if you can not subscribe.
>
>"Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com> wrote:
>
>>Every time someone posts here with SDD problems instead of posting in
>>Scitech's own newsgroup setup for this purpose it makes me wonder how
>>much else hasn't been read.
>
>>Graham.
>
>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: swaugh1@attglobal.net 26-Oct-99 22:15:14
To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Drivers for Diamond Viper V550 PCI Video Adapter
From: Scott <swaugh1@attglobal.net>
For a Viper 550 you're looking for the TNT drivers. As an FYI the Viper
770 uses the TNT2 chip.
See ya,
Scott
Gk wrote:
> WHICH DRIVER WOULD I SELECT FOR THE vIPER v550 :
>
> 1. RIVA 128
> 2. RIVA 128ZX
> 3. RIVA TNT/RIVA TNT2/NVIDIA Vanta
>
> THANKS
>
> GARY
>
> .
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From: os2admin@multinet.no 27-Oct-99 05:30:15
To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Elsa Erazor III
From: Jan Morten Havstein <os2admin@multinet.no>
Is only drivers for the NVIDIA-chip available?
Is there no software/drivers for the video-functions on this card?
Regrds
Morten Havstein
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From: jimburke@ionet.net 27-Oct-99 04:56:01
To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: SciTech Display Doctor freezes coputer, monitor
From: jimburke@ionet.net (Jim Burke)
I have another copy of free agent on this (window98) machine and I read in
another post
that the news server was scitechsoft.com -- so I set it up and managed to get
the newgroup.
On the first download of headers I got and read about 400.. But on a refresh
there were 1345 which I haven't
managed to tackle yet. Many are refering to earlier betas and the problems
that I am having are
with beta 8.
My current (and temporary) setup is on an Intel Altserver dual 166Mhz pentium
EISA motherboard with 32 meg of
ram running 2 scsi drives. The monitor is probably only vga and the video card
is built in and
has one meg of memory, it is one of the listed cirrus cards. Fixpack 10 and
other upgrades from the warpup cd from
this summer.
Scitech ran for a while but only at 16 colors, which wasn't the problem, but
somewhere along the line,
it tried to go to watchcat to kill a process and the machine hung. Since this
time, I haven't been able
to boot using the F1/F3 or any other combination of archived desktops,
maintenance desktop or command line
prompts other than the original install disks and a couple of bootos2
diskettes.
F2 shows the computer hanging on the os2dasd.dmd file.
In the first 400 messages, I didn't find much about my specific problem, which
is really a curiosity about
what is going on. What files got changed and what is the way to back out of
the problem.
I'll reinstall it if I have to, but I'd like to salvage some downloads that I
have.
Thanks for the help with the news groups.
"/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:51:59 GMT, Jim Burke wrote:
>>Not able to read their newsgroups here.
>>
>Try:
>http://www.scitechsoft.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=xover&group=scitech.display.do
>ctor.os2.beta&utag=
>You can read and post from a browser, if you can not subscribe.
>>
>>"Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Every time someone posts here with SDD problems instead of posting in
>>>Scitech's own newsgroup setup for this purpose it makes me wonder how
>>>much else hasn't been read.
>>
>>>Graham.
>>
>>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: uliw@erdw.ethz.ch 27-Oct-99 11:26:22
To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: SDD beta 9: fixed neomagic LCD support???
From: Uli Wortmann <uliw@erdw.ethz.ch>
Hi there,
SDD beta 8 included support for the neomagic chipset. It worked
however, only for external monitors. Has this been fixed in beta 9
or is thi still an open issue ?
uli
--
Uli Wortmann Fax (Switzerland) (1) 632 1080
Dept. of Geology Fon 3694
ETH-Zuerich http://www.erdw.ethz.ch/~bonk/bonk.html
Visit the SPOC-team at http://www.spoc.ethz.ch
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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net 27-Oct-99 17:50:25
To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: SciTech Display Doctor freezes coputer, monitor
From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:56:02, jimburke@ionet.net (Jim Burke) wrote:
:Many are refering to earlier betas and the problems that I am having are
:with beta 8.
Beta 9 has been out for a few days, maybe give that a try?
--
Klaatu barada nikto
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From: lschneid@mail.delcoelect.com 27-Oct-99 14:33:02
To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Fixed frequency monitors
From: lschneid@mail.delcoelect.com (Lee Riemenschneider)
I have a chance to get a 20" fixed frequency monitor for pretty cheap, and
would like to know if it is worth getting. I have a Matrox Mystique 220. If
I get the monitor working, will I be able to see my start-up screens? Will I
be able to play any DOS/Win3.1/OS/2 games?
TIA
--
===========================================================================
Lee W. Riemenschneider lee.w.riemenschneider@delphiauto.com
Software Engineer OS/2 user PURDUE alumnus and die-hard FAN!
===========================================================================
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From: abeagley@datatone.com 28-Oct-99 10:46:16
To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: Monitor capabilities
From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>
I notice that you are apparently in the UK, but your monitor might still
have an FCC ID# on it somewhere. If you can supply that number, somebody
(not I), might be able to tell you the name of the manufacturer.
For example, using the number on a Hitachi-branded monitor, somebody was
able to tell me that it was actually made by ADI in Taiwan.
The FCC may even have an online database of such information, but I
don't know the URL.
Alan
John Poltorak wrote:
> How do I determine the capabilities of a 'no-name' monitor?
>
> Is there any way to identify the manufacturer if there is no
> distinguishing label?
>
> --
> John
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From: mr_ace@gmx.de 28-Oct-99 18:53:01
To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: gradd080 with G400
From: mr_ace@gmx.de
Hi!
Has anyone tried the gradd080 MGA GRADD drivers from the IBM Device Driver
Page
with the Matrox G400?
I tried it and all I got was a black screen, the WPS did not start. Well, I'm
not surprised
about this, but is there someone who has tried it, too?
I'm looking for another driver, because the Matrox 2.31 is VERY sloooow!
:---------(
Cu!
Andi
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 28-Oct-99 19:50:09
To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:10
Subj: Re: gradd080 with G400
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:53:03, mr_ace@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Has anyone tried the gradd080 MGA GRADD drivers from the IBM Device Driver
Page
> with the Matrox G400?
>
> I tried it and all I got was a black screen, the WPS did not start. Well,
I'm not surprised
> about this, but is there someone who has tried it, too?
>
> I'm looking for another driver, because the Matrox 2.31 is VERY sloooow!
:---------(
>
GRADD 80 does not work with the Matrox G400.
The Scitech Software Device Docter drivers work well with the
G400 cards. The drivers are still beta and only the current beta 9
will work with WSeB SMP. There is also a problem that if you turn off
the machine the WPS will hang on the re-boot.
URL http://www.scitechsoft.com
IBM has licenced the SDD drivers, and when they are complete will
distribute a sub-set of the drivers (no 3D accelleration) through
the Device Driver repository.
Lorne Sunley
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From: Stefan.Milcke@t-online.de 29-Oct-99 00:03:08
To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: Re: StwTV produces sound at OS bootup & no volume control available
From: Stefan Milcke <Stefan.Milcke@t-online.de>
Close all TV applications and edit the wcast 1.ini file located in
\MMOS2
Change the line
MUTE=0
to
MUTE=1
Then reboot.
After this change your system should come up "silent".
This is a driver problem - not a problem of my StWTV (See subject !).
If you are using StWTV 1.10: There is a bug in the station settings.
Please download StWTV 1.11 and you'll see the sliders in the dialog to
adjust the volume (if you have a soundblaster or compatible card)
MfG Stefan Milcke
42 ;-)
Rich & Peg Flowers schrieb:
>
> Hi,
>
> On bootup using GRADD 080, FP11, Matrox Millenium, I get TV sound on
> bootup of OS/2 4.0. Also how do I regulate sound--VOLUME icon does not
> work!
>
> TIA, Rich
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To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Rainbow Runner
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From: mr_ace@gmx.de 29-Oct-99 13:09:07
To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:22
Subj: Re: gradd080 with G400
From: mr_ace@gmx.de
Hi!
>The Scitech Software Device Docter drivers work well with the
>G400 cards. The drivers are still beta and only the current beta 9
>will work with WSeB SMP. There is also a problem that if you turn off
>the machine the WPS will hang on the re-boot.
Yeah, I noticed that prob... hope they will release the non-beta version soon!
Cu!
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