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Originally compiled by David Schuetz
Currently maintained by Matt Denault
(mdenault@pomona.edu)
or (echoes-faq@fawnya.tcs.com)
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With help from all over the world!
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The FAQ is broken down into four sections, as follows:
Section 1 - General Information
The first section is general information, and
includes stuff like lists of albums, videos, tour
personnel, set lists, etc.
Section 2 - The Early Years
The second section covers their "early years," that
is, _Piper_ through _Obscured by Clouds_.
Section 3 - The Glory Years
The third section is the "glory years" (and any
discussion regarding this time frame *not* being
the time of their greatest glory will be ignored).
This section covers DSotM through _The Wall_.
Section 4 - After the Wall
The fourth section covers TFC through TDB and beyond,
the various solo albums, and general trivia that doesn't
fit anywhere else.
In addition to these four parts, there is the "Pink Floyd Internet Reference
List," which details how to access various other Internet sources of Floyd
information, such as FTP sites, WWW servers, IRC channels, Usenet newsgroups,
and the echoes mailing list.
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Section 1 - General Information
[+] 01. "Do I have to read all this stuff?"
[-] 01.1 "Where did this FAQ list come from?"
[+] 01.2 "What do I do if I have a comment/suggestion/correction?"
[+] 02. "Some useful abbreviations..."
[+] 03. "Who is Pink Floyd anyway, and what's his real name?"
[-] 03.1 "Family Tree"
[+] 04. "What albums have Pink Floyd released?"
[+] 05. "What videos can I find of Pink Floyd?"
[+] 05.1 "Concert Videos and Official Floyd/Solo Releases"
[+] 05.2 "Feature Films"
[+] 05.3 "Promotional/MTV videos and other 'shorts'"
[-] 05.4 "Films shown in concert"
[-] 06. "Did the bands who preceeded Pink Floyd ever make any records?"
[+] 07. "What rare or unreleased songs are 'out there?'"
[+] 08. "Hey! Has anyone else seen these orchestral albums?"
[+] 09. "What are some good books relating to Pink Floyd?"
[+] 10. "Are there any Pink Floyd fanzines?"
[*] 11. "What are the Pink Floyd Archives?"
[-] 12. "What kind of artwork is available for Floyd records/CDs?"
[-] 12.1 "What variations are there in the album art?"
[-] 12.2 "What colored vinyl is available?"
[-] 12.3 "Vinyl Label Art"
[-] 12.4 "List of CD Art"
[-] 12.5 "Are there posters available of the album artwork?"
[+] 13. "What are some very rare releases or packages?"
[+] 14. "What are all these remasters and gold discs?"
[*] 14.1 "The _Shine On_/EMI remasters"
[+] 14.2 "The MFSL Gold Discs"
[-] 14.3 "Sony's SBM Process"
[+] 15. "What were the working titles for some songs/albums?"
[+] 16. "A Collection of Great Concert Setlists (and Players)"
[-] 17. "What is the address of Pink Floyd's management?"
[*] 18. "Fleudian Slips"
[+] 19. "All about Quadraphonics"
[+] 19.1 "How the SQ system works"
[-] 19.2 "What do I need to play Quad albums?"
[+] 20. "Some words about RoIOs"
[-] 20.1 "Why use 'RoIO'?"
[+] 20.2 "Where can I get RoIOs?"
[+] 20.3 "What are some good RoIOs?"
[+] 20.4 "Where can I find lists of RoIOs?"
[*] 20.5 "What are these 'Trance Remix' albums?"
[-] 20.6 "How do I know if a RoIO is any good?"
- Same as last version
+ Changed since last version
* New since last version
This Document Copyright 1994, 1995 by the Echoes Mailing List and its Members
For questions on distribution, contact: echoes-faq@fawnya.tcs.com
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[+] 01. "Do I have to read all this stuff?"
Yes! The main reason behind having a FAQ is so that people don't keep
asking the same old questions day after day after day..... It frees up
fans for discussions about new topics, and keeps them from having to
rehash old debates/arguments for the 252nd time. Yes, there's a helluva
lot of stuff to read here, but there's a lot that new fans may want to
know right off that they'll find right here.
This FAQ is rapidly turning from a list of common questions to a net-
generated Pink Floyd Reference Work. It is heartily recommended that
you keep a copy nearby, either on-line or printed.
[-] 01.1 "Where did this FAQ list come from?"
In early 1991, David Schuetz began to tire of seeing the same questions
appearing in public forums. In late April, the FAQ was formally begun,
and it was his "baby" for nearly three years. In those years, it grew
from just a few pages to more than 60! In late 1993, it became apparent
that David just didn't have the time to work on it anymore (for reasons
far too numerous to mention). In early 1994, David published the final
version of the FAQ that he'd be responsible for (version 2.9).
Then bear (H.W. Neff, the administrator of the echoes mailing list) ran
it for several months, before passing it on to me (Matt). Which is where
things now stand...
[+] 01.2 "What do I do if I have a comment/suggestion/correction?"
Let me know! Send me e-mail at: mdenault@pomona.edu
or: echoes-faq@fawnya.tcs.com
I should write back to you within a week to let you know I received
your letter.
Whenever I get enough material to justify a new version, I'll post to both
echoes and the newsgroup to discuss anything that may be controvertial.
Assuming there are no serious objections, they'll then go into the next
version. My judgement is, of course, final in all FAQ matters.
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[+] 02. "Some useful abbreviations..."
On the net, and throughout this FAQ, there are in use quite a few
abbreviations. We're lazy people, and don't like to type more than we
have to. So, to help you understand what follows:
Albums: Fanzines:
PatGoD: Piper At The Gates Of Dawn TAP : The Amazing Pudding
ASoS : A Saucerful Of Secrets BD : Brain Damage
AHM : Atom Heart Mother
OBC : Obscured By Clouds
ANP : A Nice Pair
DSotM : Dark Side Of The Moon
WYWH : Wish You Were Here
TFC : The Final Cut
P&CoHH: The Pros And Cons Of HitchHiking
+-oHH : The Pros And Cons Of HitchHiking
WtWB : When The Wind Blows
AMLoR : A Momentary Lapse Of Reason (sometimes MLoR)
DSoT : Delicate Sound of Thunder
ATD : Amused to Death
TDB : The Division Bell
Songs:
SOYCD : Shine On You Crazy Diamond (SOYCD -> SoYcD -> SYD)
ABitW : Another Brick in the Wall
OoTD : One of These Days OtTA : On the Turning Away
RLH : Run Like Hell CBtL : Coming Back to Life
TGGitS: The Great Gig in the Sky StCftHotS : Set the Controls...
BtBBH : Bring the Boys Back Home
General Stuff:
BTW : by the way
IMHO : In my humble opinion (IMNSHO = "...not so humble opinion")
RoIO : Recording Of Illegitimate Origin - concert tape, studio outtake, etc.
oreo : bastardization of RoIO (hence also "cookie")
Any others should (hopefully!) be understandable from the context.
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[+] 03. "Who is Pink Floyd anyway, and what's his real name?"
Pink Floyd is not a person, they are a band. There are five main people
that are associated with the name Pink Floyd. These are (along with their
birthdays),
Roger Keith (Syd) Barrett 6 January, 1946
George Roger Waters 9 September, 1943
Richard William Wright 28 July, 1945
Nicholas Berkeley Mason 27 January, 1945
David Jon Gilmour 6 March, 1946
About 1965, the Floyd-to-be formed as "Sigma 6." They then changed to "The
T-Set" ("Tea Set"), then "The Meggadeaths," "The Architectural Abdabs," "The
Screaming Abdabs," and simply "The Abdabs." At this point, the band's
membership consisted of:
Roger Waters, lead guitar
Clive Metcalf, bass
Richard Wright, keyboards
Nick Mason, drums
Juliette Gale, vocals
Keith Noble, vocals
The Abdabs mostly played rhythm and blues songs. Juliette later married
Wright, and she, Noble, and Metcalf all quit the band. Waters then brought
in Bob Close and Syd Barrett for guitars; then later Close left, leaving the
original recorded Pink Floyd lineup. In late '65, they became "The Pink
Floyd Sound," then just "The Pink Floyd." The name Pink Floyd came from
albums by two Carolina blues artists, Pink Anderson and Floyd Council, that
were in Syd Barrett's collection. It had often been said that using the
name came to Syd in a vision.
The Floyd began to attract attention in mid-1966, frequently playing such
underground hangouts as The UFO Club and The Marquee Club's Spontaneous
Underground. It was during this time that they made the transition from
playing psychedelic R&B covers to doing their own songs; almost exclusively
Syd Barrett compositions. As Floyd biographer Miles has said about this
period, "The Floyd were the *loudest* band anyone had ever heard at that
time. They were also the *weirdest*. They were *the* underground band."
The Floyd's growing underground popularity led to a single, "Arnold Layne,"
released in March of 1967. It entered the British charts at #20, resulting
in national media exposure for the band. Their followup single, "See Emily
Play," stayed on the charts for 7 weeks, reaching #6. The Pink Floyd's
first LP, _The Piper at the Gates of Dawn_, also remained on the charts for
7 weeks, and also reached #6.
The success that followed their first two singles and _Piper_ proved to be
too much for Syd, however, as the vast quantities of drugs he was taking
in, the blind worship of his fans, the pressure of writing hit singles (his
third attempt, "Apples and Organges," was a flop), and other factors all made
him unpredictable on stage and in the studio. The other members of the group
decided to bring in an additional guitarist to cover for Syd, and thus David
Gilmour was asked to join the band (Jeff Beck was also considered, but the
band was in awe of him, and thought he would command too high a price).
Gilmour (not the same as jazz musician David Gilmore ;) had established a
reputation as a guitarist and vocalist in the group "The Jokers Wild" (see
Question 6).
With the addition of Gilmour and Syd's declining state, it was shortly
decided that the band could carry on without him, and so one night they
simply didn't pick him up on the way to a show. Barrett went on to record
two solo albums (with the assistance of the Floyd's members), and while he
remained (and remains) a cult hero, he never achieved the musical popularity
on his own that he did while with the group. (See P2Q6 and P4Q34 for more
on Barrett.)
Pink Floyd, meanwhile (having shed the "The" part of their name along with
Syd), went on to be fantastically successful, following a somewhat rough
start sans Barrett. They continued as a foursome from _Saucerful_ through
_Animals_; it was during the _Wall_ sessions that Rick Wright was forced
out of the group (P3Q30). By this time as well the lyrical and conceptual
ambitions of Waters were clashing full on with the musical ideas of Gilmour;
on the subsequent _Final Cut_ album, Gilmour acted as little more than a
session musician. At that point, it seemed impossible that they would ever
work together again, and thus Pink Floyd was seen as dead. To heighten this
impression, both Waters and Gilmour produced solo albums, neither of which
did terribly well on the charts or as draws for the tours the two embarked
on.
What happened next is more fully detailed in P4Q7. In short, Waters decided
to officially leave the group; Gilmour and Mason subsequently decided to
record an album under the Pink Floyd name. Waters, who thought the name best
layed to rest, sued them over its use.
Waters also remained active musically, following up his first solo album,
_Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking_, with contributions to the movie soundtrack,
"When the Wind Blows." His next solo album was _Radio KAOS_, for which he
again toured. Again, neither was a great success commercially; certainly
not by Pink Floyd standards. Later, in 1990, he staged what was certainly
one of the more memorable music "events" in recent history, with his _Wall
in Berlin_ charity concert. His most recent work, _Amused to Death_, was
not the sales success it was hoped it would be, despite its commercial hype.
This was to the great disappointment of many of his fans, who thought that
AtD was his best work yet. See P4Q33 for some information on Waters'
current activities.
Meanwhile, Pink Floyd did *not* die, certainly not legally, and in the minds
of many fans, not in spirit either. Their first post-Waters release, _A
Momentary Lapse of Reason_, went on to become a major success, and the 2 1/2
member Floyd followed it up with an extensive world tour. After several
years off, the group, now with a full three members (see P4Q25), released
_The Division Bell_, and embarked on another tour.
...which is where things stand right now, pretty much. For the latest rumors
of what lies ahead, check out the "Rumor Mill" question, P4Q33.
[-] 03.1 "Family Tree"
Understandably, all these changes can cause a bit of confusion. Here then
is a "family tree" of the band. Band names are in double quotes ("this is a
band"), and album names are in all caps towards the right (THIS IS AN ALBUM,
sometimes abbreviated).
"The Mottoes"
Geoff Mott (Motlow) Syd Barrett Nobby Clarke Clive Wellham Tony Santi
vocals guitar guitar drums bass
-------+-----------------+----------------------------+---------------+----
| | | |
to "Boston Crabs" to "Hollering Blues" +---+-----------+
(vocals) (bass) |
|
|
|
"The Ramblers" |
"Joker's Wild" |
John Gordon John Altham |
David Gilmour rhythm guitar, sax, Clive Wellham | Tony Santi
guitar guitar keyboards drums | bass
-----+----------------------------------------------------+-----------
|
|
to "The Flowers" "Sigma Six"
and then "Bullitt" "T-Set"
"Megadeaths"
"Architectual Abdabs"
"Screaming Abdabs"
"Abdabs"
Richard Wright Clive Metcalf Keith Noble
Roger Waters rhythm g. Nick Mason bass Juliette Gale vocals
lead guitar drums vocals
-----------.-.-.------------------------------------------------------------
\|/
| "Blues Anonymous"
| |
| "The Pink Floyd Sound" |
Roger Waters | Richard Wright Nick Mason Syd Barrett Bob Close
bass | keyboards, cello drums guitar guitar
-------------+--------------.-.-.--------------------------------------
\|/
|
|
| "The Pink Floyd"
Syd Barrett Roger Waters | Richard Wright Nick Mason PIPER
guitar bass | keyboards drums
----------------------------+-+---------------------------
|
|
"Bullitt" |
| | "Pink Floyd"
Roger Waters David Gilmour | Syd Barrett Richard Wright Nick Mason ASOS
bass guitar | guitar keyboards drums
----------------------------+---------------------------------------
|
|
|
| "Pink Floyd"
Roger Waters David Gilmour | Richard Wright Nick Mason MORE, UMMAGUMMA,
bass guitar | keyboards drums AHM, MEDDLE, OBC,
----------------------------+------+------------------- DSTOM, WYWH,
| | ANIMALS, WALL
| |
| +------------------------+
| |
| "Pink Floyd" |
Roger Waters David Gilmour | Nick Mason TFC |
bass guitar | drums | "Zee" IDENTITY
----------------------------+------------ Dave Harris | Richard Wright
| guitar | keyboards
| ------------+-------+--------
| |
| "Pink Floyd" |
David Gilmour | Nick Mason AMLOR |
guitar | drums |
--------------+------------- |
| |
| +---------------+
| |
| "Pink Floyd" |
David Gilmour | Nick Mason Richard Wright DSOT, TDB
guitar | drums keyboards
--------------+------------------------------
|
|
?????????
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[+] 04. "What albums have Pink Floyd released?"
Without starting a detailed discography, here is a list of all albums
released by Pink Floyd as a band. Following that is a list of other
albums on which Floyd appears, then a list of solo albums:
Pink Floyd Albums
[ A "#" indicates that the collection is not currently available on CD ]
Regular Catalog
The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 5 August 1967
A Saucerful of Secrets 29 June 1968
More 27 July 1969
Ummagumma 25 October 1969
Atom Heart Mother 10 October 1970
Meddle 11 November 1971
Obscured by Clouds 3 June 1972
The Dark Side of the Moon 24 March 1973
Wish You Were Here 15 September 1975
Animals 23 January 1977
The Wall 30 November 1979
The Final Cut 21 March 1983
A Momentary Lapse of Reason 8 September 1987
Delicate Sound of Thunder 22 November 1988
The Division Bell 30 March 1994
NOTE: Release dates are for original UK issues.
+ Remasters of all but _More_, OBC, MLoR, DSoT, and TDB are currently
available in Europe; OBC and _More_ are scheduled for February.
+ PatGoD, ASoS, _Ummagumma_, AHM, _Meddle_, and DSotM are all likewise
scheduled for February in the US; no word yet on the rest.
Special Releases
#Best of Pink Floyd 1970* (compilation, Dutch)
#Relics 1971 (compilation w/"Biding My Time")
#A Nice Pair 1973 (_Piper_ & ASoS as double-LP)
A Collection of Great Dance Songs 1981 (compilation)
Pink Floyd Hits 198?% (compilation, Brazilian)
Works 1983 (compilation, w/"Embryo")
Shine On - Special 9 CD Box Set 1992& (remasters and early singles)
Shine On - Selections from the Box 1992^
Dark Side of the Moon XX 1993 (special 20th anniversary ed.)
* Rereleased throughout Europe as _Masters of Rock_ Vol. 1 in 1974.
% Brazilian version of ACoGDS with "The Gunner's Dream" in place of "One of
These Days."
& Contains remastered CDs of: ASoS, _Meddle_, DSotM, WYWH, _Animals_,
_The Wall_, AMLoR, and a CD (mostly mono) of their first 5 singles. Also
includes a hardcover book, several "postcards," and "minimalist" packaging
for the albums themselves. See also Q7.
^ Contains "See Emily Play," "Set the Controls...," "OoTD," "Money,"
"SOYCD [edit]," "Dogs," "Comfortably Numb," "ABITW2," and "One Slip."
Honorable Mentions
Objects of Fantasy/Orchestral Maneuvers 1989 [See Q8]
Hits of PF: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra 1994 [See Q8]
Beyond the Wildwood: A Tribute to Syd Barrett 1987*
Trance Remixes 199? [See Q20.5]
?Discoballs: A Tribute to Pink Floyd 19??^
* Features "No Good Trying" (The Mock Turtles), "Octopus" (Plasticland),
"Arnold Layne" (SS-20), "Matilda Mother" (Paul Roland), "She Took a Long
Cold Look" (Fit and Limo), "Long Gone" (The Shamen), "If the Sun Don't
Shine" (Opal -- inspired by "Jugband Blues"), "Baby Lemonade" (The Ashes
in the Morning), "Wolfpack" (The Lobster Quadrille), "Golden Hair" (The
Paint Set), "No Man's Land" (Tropicana Fishtank), "Apples and Oranges"
(The TV Personalities), "Two of a Kind" (The Soup Dragons), and "Scream
Thy Last Scream" (The Green Telescope).
^ Album of disco covers by French group Rosebud. Includes "Have a Cigar,"
"Free Four," "Summer '68," "Interstellar Overdrive," "Money," "One of these
Days," "Arnold Layne," and the "Main Theme" from _More_.
Other Albums On Which Floyd Songs are Featured
Tonite Let's All Make Love In London (soundtrack) 1968
Zabriskie Point (soundtrack) 1970
#Picnic (Harvest label sampler - "Terrapin," "Embryo") 1970
Rock Goes to the Movies (Z-Point songs) 19??
?Harvest Heritage - 20 Greats ("Octopus") 19??
?Supertracks ("Money") 19??
?The Summit ("Welcome to the Machine") 19??
?The Harvest Story Vol. 1 ("Love You") 19??
?Filmtracks - The Best of British Film Music (ABitW) 19??
?Rock Legends (edited "Money" from US single) 19??
?The New Spirit of Capitol ("Astronomy Domine") 19??
?Before the Fall ("Baby Lemonade" from BBC sessions) 19??
#The Heavyweights ("Have a Cigar") 19??
#Quadrafile ("Money") 1976
#Four Temas De Film (BtBBH - _Wall_ movie version) 198?
Knebworth: The Album ("Comfortably Numb" and RLH) 1990
A CD Full of Secrets 199?
Superstar Concert Series: Pink Floyd at Knebworth 1990 1992
Solo Albums
Syd Barrett The Madcap Laughs 1970
Syd Barrett Barrett 1970
Roger Waters Music from The Body 1970*
#Syd Barrett Syd Barrett 1974**
David Gilmour David Gilmour 1978
Richard Wright Wet Dream 1978
Nick Mason Ficticious Sports 1981^
David Gilmour About Face 1984
Roger Waters Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking 1984
#Zee Identity 1984+
Nick Mason Profiles 1985++
Roger Waters When The Wind Blows (sndtk) 1986&
Roger Waters Radio KAOS 1987
Syd Barrett The Peel Sessions (EP) 1988&&
Syd Barrett Opel (compilation/rare tracks) 1988
Roger Waters The Wall--Live in Berlin 1990
Syd Barrett Octopus ("Best of") 1992
Roger Waters Amused to Death 1992
Syd Barrett Crazy Diamond (Box Set) 1993^^
* With Ron Geesin, a soundtrack.
** _Madcap_ and _Barrett_ repackaged as a double album.
^ Essentially a Carla Bley solo album -- Mason plays, but wasn't involved
in the writing.
+ Zee was a band comprised of Richard Wright and Dave Harris.
++ With Rick Fenn of 10cc, and features Gilmour with vocals on one track.
& Second side of album features Waters and The Bleeding Heart Band (the
first time the band was called such).
&& Features "Two of a Kind," which was probably a Rick Wright song.
^^ _Madcap_, _Barrett_, and _Opel_ packaged with alternate takes of the
album songs. This was not available in the US until 1994, except as
an import.
Interview Discs
There are also several interview picture discs floating around, both
on vinyl and on CD, but beware -- some of them feature pictures of old
(Syd-era) Floyd, but contain interviews with AMLoR-era Floyd members.
Example: the "Limited Edition Picture Disc Interview," part of the
TALKING PICTURE series, lists two tracks:
1: Interview 1981 [discussing _The Wall_ and beginnings of film]
2: Interview 1986 [discussing AMLoR]
The disc has pictures of very young Roger, Nick, Syd, and Rick.
[If anyone has any transcripts of these or other interview discs, I'd like
a copy for the archives.]
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[+] 05. "What videos can I find of Pink Floyd?"
In addition to what's listed, the music of Pink Floyd and its members has
appeared in several films of uncertain availability (Music Power, Stamping
Ground, Rock 'n Roll--The Greatest Years:1967, San Francisco, Rock City,
White of the Eye, Life Could be a Dream), and members of the group have made
several guest appearances at concerts (Deep End, Amnesty International Big
30, The Secret Policeman's Third Ball, Columbian Volcano Concert, Seville,
Walden Woods benefit show, etc.), some of which are available. There have
also been a bunch of other short "cameos" (like Gilmour on Popquiz (on
several occasions), and on Saturday Night Live (12/12/87)). Finally, music
from Pink Floyd is used fairly frequently as "incidentals" on TV shows, news
programs, and feature films.
[+] 05.1 "Concert Videos and Official Floyd/Solo Releases"
+ KQED Concert
There was a PBS "concert" recorded by KQED TV at the end of April, 1970.
They played "Atom Heart Mother," "Careful With That Axe, Eugene,"
"Cymbaline," "Green is the Colour," "Granchester Meadows," and "Set the
Controls for the Heart of the Sun."
+ "Pink Floyd--Live at Pompeii"
A "concert" filmed in an ancient ampitheatre in Pompeii on October
4th-7th, 1971; with interviews and some studio shots of Floyd working
on DSOTM that were added later. Features "Echoes," "Careful With That
Axe, Eugene," "One of These Days I'm Going To Cut You Into Little
Pieces," "Madmoiselle Knobs," "A Saucerful of Secrets" and "Set the
Controls for the Heart of the Sun."
Available only on video: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC/PAL)
+ "Pink Floyd--The Wall"
The film version of The Wall, directed by Alan Parker, starring Bob
Geldof. Includes all of _The Wall_, minus "Hey You," plus "When The
Tigers Broke Free," and with "Empty Spaces" replaced by "What Shall
We Do Now?"
Available on video only: VHS, LaserDisc (NTSC/PAL), and CD-i
A deluxe letterboxed version from a new transfer on LaserDisc is now
available (in CLV format). Also includes the "Original Theatrical
Trailer."
+ "Pink Floyd: London 66-67"
30 minute video featuring footage of the Floyd at the UFO Club, the
Technicolour Dream Extravaganza, and in the studio. Contains "Nick's
Boogie" and "Interstellar Overdrive." Promo for the "Tonite Let's
All Make Love in London" film.
Available on video: VHS (NTSC)
+ "Pink Floyd--The Final Cut EP"
Video EP of the final cut. Contains "the gunners dream," "the final
cut," "not now john," and "the fletcher memorial home."
Available on video: VHS Hi-Fi (PAL)
+ "Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" (Roger Waters)
Video EP of the solo album
+ "David Gilmour--About Face Tour"
Concert video of Gilmour's first solo tour, with "Until We Sleep," "All
Lovers are Derranged," "There's No Way Out Of Here," "Short and Sweet,"
"Run Like Hell," "Out of the Blue," "Blue Light," "Murder," and
"Comfortably Numb." With special guest appearances of Roy Harper
("Short and Sweet") and Nick Mason (drums on "Comfortably Numb").
Also two music videos ("Blue Light" and "All Lovers are Derranged")
and a 30 minute documentary segment.
Available on video: VHS (NTSC)
+ "Radio KAOS" (Roger Waters)
Four MTV-style videos. Includes "Radio Waves," "Sunset Strip," "The
fish report with a beat," "4 Minutes," and "The Tide is Turning (live)."
Available on video: VHS and LaserDisc (CAV)
+ "Delicate Sound of Thunder"
Video of the DSoT concert, filmed in August, 1988 at Nassau Coliseum,
Uniondale, New York (with bits from Versailles, France). They played
"Shine On...," "Signs of Life," "Learning to Fly," "Sorrow," "The Dogs
of War," "On the Turning Away," "One of these Days...," "Time," "On the
Run," "The Great Gig in the Sky," "Wish You Were Here," "Us and Them,"
"Money," "Comfortably Numb," "One Slip," "Run Like Hell," and "Shine
On...(reprise)"
Available on audio and video: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC/PAL)
(PAL versions omit "Money")
Audio versions have slightly modified track lists.
Also available as an MPEG-1 "multimedia" CD-ROM.
+ "The Wall--Live In Berlin 1990" (Roger Waters)
Video of the Wall performance in Berlin. Features Waters and the
Bleeding Heart Band, as well as numerous others, performing The Wall,
minus "The Show Must Go On" and "Outside the Wall," and with the
additions of "What Shall We Do Now" and "The Tide is Turning."
Available on audio and video: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC/PAL)
+ "Knebworth '90"
Pink Floyd played "Shine On You Crazy Diamond," "Sorrow," "Wish You
Were Here," "The Great Gig in the Sky," (with Clare Torry) "Money,"
"Comfortably Numb," and "Run Like Hell."
Available on audio and video: VHS and LaserDisc
(Both feature only "Comfortably Numb" and "Run Like Hell")
The full audio is available on Westwood One's _Superstar Concert Series_.
Also, video of all but TGGitS and "Money" were broadcast by MTV.
+ "La Carrera Panamericana"
A movie, produced by Steve O'Rourke (their manager), about a
classic auto race up a highway in Mexico. Dave, Steve, Nick, and
some other chap all race in the film, which includes some
instrumentals & new music from Floyd (see item on "Didn't They
Get In A Crash And Nearly Mangle Themselves To Death?")
Tracks: "Run Like Hell," "Pan Am Shuffle," "Yet Another Movie,"
"Sorrow," "Signs of Life," "Country Theme," "Mexico '78,"
"Big Theme," "Run Like Hell," "One Slip," "Small Theme,"
and "Carrera Slow Blues." The band: David Gilmour, Nick Mason,
Rick Wright, Jon Carin, Gary Wallis, Guy Pratt, Tim Renwick.
Available on video only: VHS and LaserDisc (NTSC)
+ "What God Wants pt. 1" (Roger Waters)
20 minute film showing both versions of the video and a short interview
with Waters, conducted by Jim Ladd.
Available on Japanese 8" LaserDisc and VHS
[+] 05.2 "Feature Films"
+ "The Committee" (1968):
[From Scott Frank -- how does he FIND these things?]
This movie takes place on the "Planet Craytic," and features music by
Pink Floyd and The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The plot has been
described as follows: "Fantasy - Murderous hitch-hiker summoned by
strange committee."
Neither audio or video has ever been released.
+ "Tonight Let's All Make Love in London" (1968):
A "documentary" of the underground life in London in the late 60's.
Features a 16-minute version of Interstellar Overdrive, as well as
multitudes of interviews.
Two full soundtracks are available; one with bits and pieces of Floyd
performing, and the other with the complete "Interstellar Overdrive"
and "Nick's Boogie."
A "Mini-Promo" soundtrack is also availble on CD, with the complete
versions of these two songs.
Video was scheduled to be released, but I don't know if it has been.
+ "More" (1969):
[from Geoff Rimmer]
Supposedly an anti-drugs film. Naive German guy arrives in Paris, meets
up with another guy who shows him around and takes him to a party. He
meets a girl there [IMHO she is absolutely gorgeous! Worth watching the
film just for her!]. He goes round her place where she teaches him to
smoke grass. They go off to Malta, and sniff coke, drop acid and inject
H. The acid makes her freak out, screaming at him, saying he's the
devil etc. The guy is obviously getting addicted to the H - keeps
wanting more and more (hence film's title) and eventually ODs in a dark
alley.
Available on video: VHS
Soundtrack available as part of Floyd's regular catalog (but slightly
different -- lacks "Seabirds" and "Hollywood" found in the movie, and
has Dave singing "Cymbaline" {with slighly different lyrics as well}.
Also note that the lyrics to "Seabirds" are different than those in
the songbook).
+ "Zabriskie Point" (1970):
[from Toapher]
I'm the first one to admit that Z Point is not your mainstream, top
quality movie, but that does not mean that it's not worth seeing. It
does move rather slowly and the plot is not what I would call rivetting.
But what's important is to understand the era in which it was made.
The movie was filmed in 1969. This was near the peak of civil unrest
in this country [the US]. While the acting might not be academy award
material, the movie is a very accurate portrayal of the trials and
tribulations of the youth subculture. We tend to look back at the 60's
in a very romantic light, but the truth is that it must have been a
*very* difficult time for everyone. Z Point tries to shed some light
on that aspect of the era, rather than just portray it in the "Summer
Of Love" way.
In addition, there is a sub-plot that pervades the movie. The words
to "Crumbling Land" indicate that The Floyd were aware of this and
understood what that sub-plot was about. The female lead worked for a
group of land developers who were working on creating a community in the
desert. They were trying to take a piece of land that was not capable
of sustaining human life and transforming it. This required robbing
resources from nearby ecosystems, destroying the natural habitats on the
site, and polluting an otherwise clean area. The "famous" sex scene that
took place at Zabriskie Point itself was a celebration of the natural
beauty and purity of the undisturbed landscape.
Available as soundtrack and on video: VHS
+ "The Body" (1970)
Unconventional biology documentary that Waters co-wrote the score
for (along with Ron Geesin). He also narrated one scene.
Soundtrack (re-recorded) available.
+ "La Valle" (1972): (also called "The Valley Obscured By Clouds")
[Geoff Rimmer again]
A woman wants to obtain some rare bird feathers and goes on an
expedition with some guys up a mountain. They are going to search
for a place no one has previously mapped (this is because the area
is obscured by clouds) called The Valley. The woman gets the
feathers, decides to go back alone, changes her mind and continues
with the rest in search of The Valley. After much walking they
are running out of food and the air is becoming thin - they are
exhausted. Then, someone says "I see the Valley". End of film.
Available on video: VHS
Soundtrack available as part of Floyd's regular catalog (with
slightly different lyrics on "Free Four" -- see P2Q22).
+ "Crystal Voyager" (1975):
Apparently a surfing film. Only reason for inclusion is film's use
of "Echoes," in its entireity.
Available on video: VHS
+ "The Fantastic Animation Festival" (1975)
A collection of animated shorts, the first called "French Windows."
Also found on the "Video Anthology," this was by filmmaker Ian Eames
and was accompanied throughout by "One of these Days".
Available (though out-of-print) on video: VHS
+ "When the Wind Blows" (1986)
Animated film directed by Jimmi Mukarami, based on the book by Raymond
Briggs, about an elderly couple who survive a nuclear assault. Roger
and the Bleeding Heart Band contributed "The Russian Missile," "Towers
of Faith," "Hilda's Dream," "The American Bomber," "The Anderson
Shelter," "The British Submarine," "The Attack," "The Fallout," "Hilda's
Hair," and "Folded Flags."
Soundtrack available (though rather rare).
Available on video: LaserDisc (out of print), VHS
(Live Home Video, 1-800-326-1977)
[+] 05.3 "Promotional/MTV videos and other 'shorts'"
First, a list of official promotional videos:
"Arnold Layne"
"Apples and Oranges"
"See Emily Play"
"Astronomy Domine"
"The Scarecrow"
"Point Me At The Sky"
"Learning to Fly" (story and live stuff -- two versions)
"Dogs of War" (story and live stuff)
"One Slip" (from La Carrera Panamericana)
"On the Turning Away" (from DSoT video)
"One of These Days" (from DSoT video)
"Comfortably Numb" (from DSoT video)
"Welcome to the Machine" (Gerald Scarfe animation)
"Brain Damage/Eclipse" (story)
"Another Brick in the Wall Part II" (from Wall movie)
"When The Tigers Broke Free" (from Wall movie)
"A Lie for a Lie"
"Blue Light"
"Sexual Revolution"
"Every Strangers Eyes"
"What God Wants part I" (lots of animals/studio shots -- two versions)
"Three Wishes"
"Take it Back" (nature scenes/story)
"High Hopes" (concert film)
There are also several rare, rather short film clips of interest. One is
"Syd Barrett's First Trip," and is a short 8mm film of just that. It was
taken by Nigel Gordon, a student friend of Syd's. Another is a recording
of the Floyd outside Abbey Road Studios in April 1967, after signing their
first EMI recording contract. The final one is a short promotional film
for Gilmour's first solo album, and features him in the studio performing
"No Way," "There's No Way Out Of Here," "I Can't Breathe Anymore," and "So
Far Away."
Finally, there's lots of stuff out there in the non-official markets. A
popular example of such material is the "Video Anthology" which collects
many of the visual works by Pink Floyd. Unfortunately, it is a VoIO,
and lacks as much in terms of quality as it does legality. However, here is
the listing of bits on that tape, if only to provide a better idea of what
videos Floyd have done [provided by Scott Frank]:
"Arnold Layne" (excerpt from promo)
"Interstellar Overdrive" (excerpt from Granada TV)
"Syd Barrett Interview" (BBC - ~30 secs long)
"The Scarecrow" (Pathe Newsreel)
"Apples and Oranges" (promo - the one w/ Roger lip-synching)
"See Emily Play" (promo)
"A Saucerful of Secrets" (excerpts from 1968 & mid 70's)
"Astronomy Domine" (promo)
"The Scarecrow" (promo)
"Set The Controls..." (excerpts from 1968)
"Point Me At The Sky" (promo)
"Atom Heart Mother" (Tokyo)
"Cymbaline" (KQED Studios 1970)
"Set The Controls..." (Holland Pop Festival)
"A Saucerful Of Secrets" (Holland Pop Festival)
"One Of These Days" (from animated film "French Windows")
"Careful With That Axe, Eugene" (Australian TV 1971)
"Set The Controls..." (from "Heart Of The Sun" film - 1973)
"Careful With That Axe, Eugene" ("Superstars In Concert" - 1973)
"Brain Damage/Eclipse" (backdrop film - from MTV Weekend)
"Welcome To The Machine" (backdrop film - from MTV Weekend)
"Pigs On The Wing" (Battersea Power Station)
"The Happiest Days Of Our Lives" (live in London - 1980)
"Another Brick In The Wall - part II" (promo)
"A Collection Of Great Dance Songs" (TV Commercial)
"Pink Floyd The Wall" (theatrical trailer)
"When The Tigers Broke Free" (promo)
"The Gunner's Dream" (from the "Final Cut" video EP)
"The Final Cut" (same as above)
"Not Now John" (same as above)
"The Fletcher Memorial Home" (same as above)
"A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" (US TV AD)
"Learning To Fly" - Version #1 (promo)
"On The Turning Away" (live promo)
"Dogs Of War" (live promo - from Pink Floyd Weekend, I think)
"Signs of Life" (excerpt - from Pink Floyd Weekend on MTV)
"One Slip" (live promo - Italian TV)
"Learning To Fly" - Version #2 (promo)
"Win A Plane" (MTV contest)
[-] 05.4 "Films shown in concert"
This is a list of some of the films that Pink Floyd have shown in concert:
+ "Welcome to the Machine" - Surreal landscape, with a scorpion that likes
to behead people, waves of blood that turn into teeming masses clamoring
at tall marble towers.
+ "Time" - Blue sky, hundreds of clocks ticking along, merging, dissolving,
etc.
+ "Us & Them" - Started with a film about people crossing the street.
+ "Brain Damage/Eclipse" - Politicians giving speeches. Updated (Reagan,
Bush, etc.) for '94.
+ "Signs of Life" - Someone canoeing and swimming along a river.
+ "Yet Another Movie" - The "You're getting on that plane" scene from
"Casablanca."
+ "Dogs of War" - A video of dogs attacking, finally running up the stage
(same camera-movement as at the start of "Shine On...")
+ "Learning to Fly" - Runway/flight scenes.
+ "Pigs on the Wing" - Pig being launched and floating over the Battersea
Power Station.
+ "High Hopes" - White bouncing balls, giant teddy bears, giant flags/capes,
guitars flowing down a river, etc.
+ "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" - Boy growing to young man amid surreal
landscape. Includes a bit with an orange, plum and a matchbox, the
relevence of which is explained by the "Crazy Diamond" book:
[Extracted from an interview with Ian Moore:]
"We got hold of some liquid LSD bottles, laid out hundreds of
sugar cubes in rows and put two drops on each. But the stuff
was so strong we were absorbing it through our fingers, or more
likely by licking it off them. As it took effect we had no idea
which cubes we had done, so many of them probably got double
doses while the rest did not have any. Syd had his plum, orange
and matchbox and was sitting staring at them during his trip.
Whatever he was into was his whole world - to him the plum
was the planet Venus and the orange was Jupiter. Syd was
floating in space between them."
+ "The Great Gig in the Sky" - Two versions, one animated and one with
water and waves.
+ "Marooned" - Whale swimming around in the ocean.
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[-] 06. "Did the bands who preceeded Pink Floyd ever make any records?"
Of all the permutations that Pink Floyd went through, none were ever
commercially successful. The only band which even released anything
was Joker's Wild, Gilmour's old band. Their record was a one-sided LP,
which contained all cover versions:
Beautiful Delilah (Chuck Berry)
Why Do Fools Fall In Love (Frankie Lymon)
Don't You Ask Me (Manfred Mann's arrangement)
Sherry (The Four Seasons)
Big Girls Don't Cry (The Four Seasons)
It has been reported that this "LP" was limited to only about 50 copies,
and has recently sold for as much as #1000 (approx. $1800 US).
They also recorded two singles. One was Sam & Dave's "You Don't Know What I
Know" with Otis Redding's "That's How Strong My Love Is." But the original
version of "You Don't Know" became popular at about the same time, and the
single was "dead on arrival." There was also a single from the above LP,
"Why Do Fools Fall in Love?" with "Don't You Ask..." as the b-side.
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[+] 07. "What rare or unreleased songs are 'out there?'"
Here is a list of (perhaps) all the known non-album Pink Floyd tracks. Many
of these are available illegally. Some have never been heard by the general
public. Some may not even exist.
Across the Universe - Waters, on 1986 BBC special for John Lennon
(the Beatles' song) with help from Andy Fairweather-Low
Ain't No Sunshine - Bill Withers song performed on soundchecks
on the _About Face_ tour
Another Brick in the Wall (2) - rerecorded by Roger for a _Berlin Wall_
promo CD
Apples and Oranges - single
Arnold Layne - single
Astronomy Domine - live, from "Take it Back" single
Baby Blue Shuffle in D (Major) - jam, became Part 1 of "The Narrow Way"
Get Back to Radio - KAOS b-side
Biding My Time - from _Relics_
Big Theme - "La Carrera Panamericana"
Bitter Love - aka "How do You Feel," unreleased 1975
see P3Q8
Bob Dylan Blues - unreleased Barrett track from 1970
The Bobbin' Sound - unreleased track/working title for a piece
from the ASOS sessions, February 1968
Brain Damage - early studio version, June '72
Bring the Boys Back Home - extended version, back of "Tigers..."
Candy and a Currant Bun - back of "Arnold Lane"
Careful With That Axe, Eugene - back of "Point Me At The Sky"
Carrera Slow Blues - "La Carrera Panamericana"
Come In #51, Your Time Is Up - _Zabriskie_
music from "The Committee" - a movie they did incidentals for
Country Theme - "La Carrera Panamericana"
Crumbling Land - from _Zabriskie Point_ soundtrack
Cymbaline - "More" movie version
Dance with the Ferraris - instrumental from 4 Dec 1989 by Mason+Fenn
at Essen Motor Show
The Death of Sisco - possibly "Disco" or "Cisco," a _Wall_
outtake
Deep in the Blues - performed by Gilmour at 1984 Guitar Greats
concert
Embryo - _Ummagumma_ outtake *
Fingal's Cave - _Zabriskie_ outtake
Flapdoodle Dealing - unreleased early live piece
Flight from Reality - from late 1975, "very strange"
Gimme A Break - Chuck Berry song the Floyd covered
The Gnome - rare mix on back of "Flaming" single
Great Gig in the Sky - Nurofen advertisement, re-recording with
Clare Torry (see P3Q8)
Great Gig in the Sky - early live version, w/radio evangelists
Going to Live in LA - Waters _KAOS_ single
Have You Got It Yet? - late Barrett/Floyd "song"
Heart Beat, Pig Meat - _Zabriskie_
The Hero's Return part II - Parts 1 & 2 on back of "Not Now John"
obscured version single
Highway Song - unreleased track recorded in 1969
Hollywood - _More_ outtake (Gilmour) **
I Can Tell - unreleased early live song
I Can Tell - blues jam from the _KAOS_ tour
I Get Stoned - demo recorded at their first session
In the Beechwoods - unreleased track recorded May 1968
Interstellar Overdrive - live, _Ummagumma_ outtake
Interstellar Overdrive - the earliest recording, on "Tonight Let's
All Make Love in London"
It's a Miracle - uptempo version with Flea on bass
It Would Be So Nice - single
Jews Harp and Windchimes - unreleased track recorded in 1969
John Latham - unreleased track recorded May 1968
Julia Dream - back of "It Would Be So Nice"
Just Before You Disappear - unreleased Barrett song
Keep Smiling People - May 31 1968, early version of "Careful..."
see Q16
King Bee - blues song, covered by the Rolling Stones,
written by Moore, recorded by Slim Harpo
Lafayette Railroad - by Little Feat, performed at Gilmour sound
checks
Lanky (Part 2) - unreleased Barrett instrumental
Like A Rolling Stone - Gilmour demo played on Radio One, 28/7/92
Living Alone - unreleased Barrett track from 1970
Lucy Leave - from '66 sessions
Lucy Lee in Blue Tights - first group composition, may have become
"Lucy Leave"
Madamoiselle Knobs - from the "Pompeii" movie
Merry Christmas Song - from the John Peel Show, December 1975 ^
Mexico '78 - "La Carrera Panamericana"
Millionaire - unreleased early track, sometimes called
"She Was A Millionaire"
Molly's Song - Waters KAOS single
Moonhead - from BBC TV ++
Mother - "Wall" movie version
Nick's Boogie - also on "Tonight..."
Not Now John (obscured) - expletives-deleted single
On The Run - early live jam
One in a Million - early live song, sometimes called "Rush in
a Million"
Outside the Wall - "Wall" movie version
Overture - recorded for "Wall" movie
Overture for Comfortably Numb - unreleased/alternate track from _The Wall_
Paint Box - back of "Apples and Oranges"
Pan Am Shuffle - from "La Carrera Panamericana" film
Peace Be With You - from MLoR, a 'good luck' message to Waters
Peter Gunn - by Henri Mancini, performed at About Face
sound checks
Piggy Back - unreleased early live piece
Pink - unreleased early live piece
Point Me At The Sky - single
Point Me At The Sky - extended, from the Top Gear sessions
Prophet - unreleased song/alternative title from _The
Wall_ sessions
Oenone - _Zabriskie_ outtake
Rain In The Country - _Zabriskie_ outtake
Raving and Drooling - later became "Sheep"
Reaction in G - 12 October 1967
Religious Experience - EMI outtake w/Barrett & Kevin Ayers, 1/70
Rhamadan - long (18 min) Barrett song from 1968.
Richard's Rave Up - unreleased track recorded February 1968
(possibly a working title for ASoS song)
Round and Around - extended
Run Like Hell - Potzdamer Mix, from a _Berlin Wall_ promo CD
Scream Thy Last Scream - late Syd song
Seabirds - _More_ outtake (Waters) **
See Emily Play - single
Sh-Boom - a 1954 "Crew Cuts" hit covered by Mason/Fenn
Sheep - with 23rd Psalm read by Mason
Silas Lane - from very early "basement" sessions, 1966
Small Theme - "La Carrera Panamericana"
Smiles for Miles - unreleased song recorded for ATD
Snowing - unreleased early live track
Sorrow - instrumental version
Synth Theme - unreleased song or working title from _The
Wall_ sessions
Take it Back - extended, from French promo CD
Terminal Frost - "Do Your Own Lead" version
Time - early studio version, June '72
Theme (Beat Version) - _More_ outtake (entire band) **
Us and Them - early studio version, June '72
Vegetable Man - late Syd song
The Violent Sequence - part eventually became "Us and Them" +
Waiting for the Drummer - live jam from the KAOS tour, 11/16/87
What Shall We Do Now? - from "The Wall" movie
When The Tigers Broke Free - from "The Wall" movie, later a single
"White of the Eye" soundtrack - scored by Mason/Fenn
You Gotta Be Crazy - later became "Dogs"
...and a few other items, mostly just instrumental jams from concerts and
edited versions of songs for radio airplay.
* This piece has many live recordings, and a studio version was finally
released on _Works_. A demo version was accidentally released on _Picnic_
(a Harvest label sampler).
Originally intended to be a part of _Ummagumma_.
** These songs were found in a volume of copyrighted musical works.
"Seabirds" had lyrics, while the others were instrumentals. They
appeared in the film, but were omitted from the album. Also, the
music for "Seabirds" has apparently been published in a music book
at some time (though the lyrics were different than in the movie).
+ "Violent" was originally written for the movie _Zabriskie Point_ and
was performed during some of their tours of the period as a part of a
20 minute piece including bits of "Heart Beat, Pig Meat."
[From Gerhard]:
Part 1 is a tremendous drum part, sometimes labeled as "Corrosion"
Part 2 is a piano-based part, which could be "Heart Beat, Pig Meat"
Part 3 is again a drum-based thing, and also appears on some RoIOs
as "Corrosion"
Part 4 is "The Violent Sequence," a piano-based part that sounds really
familiar (and that's because it's the base for "Us & Them").
The sequence the song was written for involved riots or somesuch
being shown in slow motion.
++ [from Adam Winstanley]: "Moonhead" was included as part of a documentary
on BBC TV on the night of the first moon landing. It was in an "arts"
series called Omnibus, this particular programme being about people's
differing perceptions of the moon through time (a goddess, lunatics,
romantic moonlight, were-wolves baying at it ... etc. etc.) The programme
was subtitled "What if it's just green cheese."
^ Likely recorded in 1970. Exactly who is singing is not known; some
combination of Nick Mason/Alan Styles/John Peel.
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[+] 08. "Hey! Has anyone else seen these orchestral albums?"
There are currently two albums of orchestral cover versions of Pink Floyd
songs, both played by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. The band itself
was not involved with either album.
+ _Orchestral Maneuvers_ (previously titled _Objects of Fantasy_)
Arranged, conducted, and produced by David Palmer, who did similar
albums of Jethro Tull and Genesis. The album includes "Run Like Hell,"
"Another Brick in the Wall, pt.1," "The Happiest Days of Our Lives,"
"Another Brick in the Wall, pt.2," "Goodbye Blue Sky," "Money," "Hey
You," "Wish You Were Here," "On The Turning Away," "Shine On You Crazy
Diamond, pts.1-5," and "When The Tigers Broke Free/Eclipse."
Generally, it's not bad, but sometimes it borders on "elevator music."
Interesting listening, at the least. A few of the tracks contain vocals.
Also on the album are Steve Hackett (from Genesis), and Clare Torry.
+ _Hits of Pink Floyd_
Arranged and conducted by Hermann Weindorf. It includes "Shine On You
Crazy Diamond," "Money," "Us and Them," "Hey You," "Another Brick in
the Wall," "Wish You Were Here," "Time," "The Great Gig in the Sky,"
and "In the Flesh."
While such things are, of course, subjective, this album has generally
gotten better reviews than _Orchestral Maneuvers_. It's also, to my
knowledge, only currently available in Europe.
Also in the area of orchestral versions of Floyd songs, The London Symphony
Orchestra recorded an arrangement of "Another Brick in the Wall" for the
_Classic Rock - Rock Classics_ album.
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[+] 09. "What are some good books relating to Pink Floyd?"
There have been several books published regarding Floyd. It is also rumored
that Nick Mason is working with Storm Thorgerson (of Hipgnosis fame) on their
own book. Here is a listing of some of them, with a few comments:
+ "Pink Floyd: A Visual Documentary by Miles" published by Omnibus Press
ISBN 0-7119-1444-3
An excellent reference. A day-by-day account of what the Floyd did,
with commentary. Lots of pictures. A 21st Anniversary addition was
released in 1988; another update should be out soon.
+ "Saucerful Of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Odyssey" by Nicholas Schaffner
published by Harmony Books
ISBN 0-3853-0684-9
A superb book, detailing Floyd from the very very early days to
the MLoR tour/Berlin Wall show. Often called "The Book" by Echoes,
and generally regarded as a must-have. The UK edition has only 18
pictures, compared to 34 in the us edition. There is also a
paperback edition.
+ "Pink Floyd Back-Stage - Another Lapse from the Inside by
Bob Hassall".
Published independently, 1991; limited edition of 1000.
Fascinating document of one fan's odyssey following the AMLoR
tour around Europe in 1989, and including Knebworth 1990, often
as a member of the event crew. Many great color photos and
interesting reproductions of tour documents. Enquiries
concerning present availability should be directed to:
Backstage Workshop
PO Box 1017
1440 BA Purmerend
Netherlands
+ "Pink Floyd: Bricks In The Wall" by Karl Dallas
published by Shaposky Publishers
Notable for it's interviews with Roger Waters. Contains a fair number
of errors, though.
+ "Collectors Guide to Pink Floyd videos" by Vernon Fitch
published by the Pink Floyd Archives
A list of Pink Floyd video recordings; such as concerts, movies, promo
films, interviews, etc.
+ "Pink Floyd: Anthology" published by Hal Leonard Publishing Corp.
ISBN 0-88188-445-6
+ "Pink Floyd Lyric Book" published by Chappel Music Ltd
ISBN 0-71371-280-5
Contains two interviews with Roger Waters, from 1975 & 1982
+ "Pink Floyd" by William Ruhlmann
Published by Smithmark Publishers, Inc.
ISBN 0-8317-6912-2
Largely a picture book, this is notable for its discography, its
pictures of various album and single covers and other assorted tour
paraphanelia, and for its balanced assessment of the Waters/Floyd
split. Goes through 1992; notes _Amused to Death_ in its
discography but does not discuss it in the text.
+ "Syd Barrett Lyric Book" by Luca Ferrari
Biography (in Italian), with lyrics to Syd's PF and solo songs in
both English and Italian, and some rare photos. Also includes the
Barrett poem "A Rooftop in a Thunderstorm Row Missing the Point,"
and a 3" CD single.
+ "Le Livre du Pink Floyd" by Alain Dister, Jacques Leblanc, and
Udo Woehrle published by Albin Michel
In French. Lots of pictures, many of them fairly rare.
+ "Crazy Diamond - Syd Barrett & the Dawn of Pink Floyd"
by Mike Watkinson & Pete Anderson published by Omnibus Press
ISBN 0-7119-2397-3
A good book focussing on Syd's early life, his work with the Floyd,
solo career, and ever since. Revised edition came out in 1993.
About 150 pages; some good b&w pictures.
+ "Rock Sets - The Astonishing Art Of Concert Design"
Thames And Hudson, 30 Bloomsbury Street, London WC1B 3QP
ISBN 0-500-27697-8
A picture book of concerts that Fisher Park has designed.
Includes lots of information & photos from the Berlin concert,
plus some coverage of the Animals, Wall, P&C and KAOS tours.
145 color photos & 3 8-page foldouts
+ "In Session Tonight" by Ken Garner, published by BBC Books
ISBN 0-563-36452-1
Not a Pink Floyd book as such, but a good reference for all the
BBC shows. Includes a limited edition CD of BBC session material,
including one track by Syd Barrett.
+ "Learning to Fly " by Chris Welch
published by Castle Communications Plc.
ISBN 1-898141-3
160 pages, with lots of pictures, most in b/w. It's very up-to-date,
including information from the beginning of the TDB tour. Not the
best in terms of accuracy.
Some others that are now out of print:
+ "A Journey Through Time and Space with Pink Floyd"
Independently published.
Another great book (according to echosians), includes set lists
for pretty much every concert the Floyd have ever done.
+ "The Work Of Hipgnosis - Walk Away Rene" published by Paper Tiger (UK)
ISBN 0-905895088
Believed to be out of print, this book details the work of the
graphics team who did many of Pink Floyd's covers.
+ "Pink Floyd 'Another Brick' - An Illustrated Discography"
by Miles, published by Omnibus Press (1981)
ISBN 0-7119-0521-5
Brief biography, extensive illustrated discography (official and
otherwise). Out of print; superseded by "A Visual Documentary".
+ "The Pink Floyd" by Rick Sanders, published by Futura
ISBN 0-8600-7264-9
The first PF biography, covering the earliest days up to the WYWH
era. Also contained a brief RoIO discography. Long out of print.
+ "Pink Floyd - Anthology" Warner Bros. Publication INC, VF0790.
Contains Highlights from DSotM, ObC, Meddle, Relics, AHM, Ummagumma,
More, ASoS, and TPatGoD. 128 pages, including a 2-page article about
the early years of PF. No pictures. One big plus: Contains lyrics
for many early PF songs.
+ "Collectors Guide to Pink Floyd live recordings" by Vernon Fitch
published by the Pink Floyd Archives
Used as a reference work for numerous Pink Floyd publications (such as
the "Visual Documentary" and "A Journey Through Time and Space" books).
Many music books are available, mostly exclusively through Music Sales
Corporation. Here's info on most of them:
+ "Amused to Death" songbook
ISBN 0-7119-3220-4
+ Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason
Pink Floyd Music Publishers Limited, Order no. AM 68834,
UK ISBN: 0-7119-1340-4
72 pages, including b&w & color photograps, excerpts from some AMLOR
videos. Stylish design by Storm Thurgerson, Nexus.
+ "The Pros & Cons of Hitch Hiking" songbook by Roger Waters
ISBN 0-7119-1959-3
+ "Original David Gilmour"
ISBN 0-8256-1062-1
Money, Echoes, Any Colour You Like, Shine On (p2), Shine On (p4),
WYWH, Dogs, There's No Way Out of Here, Another Brick (p2), Mother,
Young Lust, Comfortably Numb, Hey You, Murder, All Lovers are Deranged,
You Know I'm Right, Lets Get Metaphysical.
+ "The Wall" songbook
ISBN 0-8256-1267-5 (US)
Features about 20 pages of Scarfe illustrations and photos of the
Floyd playing.
+ Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Pink Floyd Music Publishers Limited, Order no. AM 64189,
(UK) ISBN: 0-7119-1029-4, (USA) ISBN: 0-8256-1079-6
88 pages, 40 sheet music pages, includes many b/w & color photograps
from the DSotM tour, book designed by Hipgnosis. Contains two interviews:
"A Rambling Conversation with Roger Waters concerning all this and
that" by Nick Sedgewick, and "An Interview with David Gilmour" by Gary
Cooper.
+ "Animals" songbook
90pp, 45 of which are sheet music. Remainder is filled with newspaper
clippings, photographs, pictures, and two pages of the "Equipment and
Technical" portion of Floyd's touring contract.
+ "Dark Side of the Moon" songbook
ISBN 0-8256-2595-5 (US)
Includes a bunch of (rather small) pictures of the Floyd as well as
an interview with road manager Peter Watts.
Exclusive distributors:
Music Sales Corporation Music Sales Limited
225 Park Avenue South 8/9 Frith Street
NY, NY 10003 USA London W1V 5TZ England
Music Sales PTY. Limited Pink Floyd Music Publishers LTD
120 Rothschild Street, Rosebery 27 Noel Street
Sydney, NSW 2018 Australia London W1V 3RD
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[+] 10. "Are there any Pink Floyd fanzines?"
The main Pink Floyd fanzine currently running is "Brain Damage." For details,
send a self-addressed, stamped envelope to:
In UK/Australia/NZ
Japan/Hong Kong/
South Africa: | In Europe/Eire: | In the Americas:
-----------------------+------------------------+-------------------------
Glenn Povey | Michael Perricone | Brain Damage Magazine
P.O. Box 385 | Witikonerstasse 460 | P.O. Box 109
Uxbridge | CH 8053 | Westmont, IL 60559
Middlesex, UB9 5DZ | Zurich |
England | Switzerland |
|
44-895-833413 |
[From Servaas te Brake:]
There's also a Dutch general-interest Pink Floyd fanzine, called "Echoes"
(not to be confused with the echoes mailing list). Echoes is published 3
times a year in January, May and September. A single issue costs 6,50
guilders. A subscription for a year costs 17,50 guilders; prices are
postage inclusive and apply only for the Netherlands.
For subscriptions remit the subscription costs to account
Rabobank 15.11.52.543, M. Lourens in Tiel, concerning Echoes.
The subscription costs for foreign countries is 20 guilders or US$ 12,00
for Europe and US$ 14,00 for the rest of the world. Money can be sent by
registered letter or by International Money Order. Inside Europe you can
also send a Eurocheque addressed to M. Lourens, concerning Echoes.
The correspondence adress is:
Echoes
P.O. Box 156
4000 AD Tiel
The Netherlands
NOTE: Make sure they get your name and address. Not all the banks send your
name and address along with the money; if you're not sure about this
just send them a postcard with your name, address and account number
on it to the above address.
There is a Roger Waters fanzine published by REG, the International Roger
Waters Fan Club. Subscription Info:
Membership Rates: The cost of REG Fanclub membership is currently $20.00
for members in the U.S. and because of increased postage costs is $27.00
for international members. Membership includes club initiation fees,
yearly club dues, yearly subscription to the REG newsletter/magazine, and
club card fee. The (20-40 page) REG Newsletter/Magazine will be published
3-4 issues per year. Membership applicants may pay by; U.S. bank check;
International check (cheque) made out in U.S. dollars, or U.S. Postal
Money Order, all made payable to:
Michael Simone
112 Bennett Rd.
Aptos CA 95003 U.S.A.
Or you may pay by cash (U.S. currency if at all possible is preferred, but
you may pay the equivalent membership amount in the currency of your country
with an additional $10.00 for bank charges).
...and for Syd Barrett fans, you can learn more about the "Chapter 24" Sydzine
by sending a SASE to:
Chapter 24
c/o John Kelly
101 Amersham Road
Terriers, High Wycombe
Bucks
HP13 5AD England
There are also two out-of-production fanzines that can still be obtained.
The chief early Syd Barrett fanzine was "Terrapin," and a boxed set of all
the "Terrapin" issues has recently been made available.
The chief Pink Floyd fanzine was for long "The Amazing Pudding," until it
ceased production in early 1994. Back issues (the last was #60) are still
available; send a self-addressed, stamped envelope to:
Andy Mabbett
61 Meynell House
Browns Green
Birmingham B20 1BE
UK
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[*] 11. "What are the Pink Floyd Archives?"
The Pink Floyd Archives was created in the mid-seventies by collector
Vernon Fitch to provide a centralized place for Pink Floyd information
and collectibles. The Archives includes collections of numerous Pink
Floyd items, but is best known for its Collectors Guides to Pink Floyd
recordings and videos in which Vernon has documented the band's history
through detailed listings of actual concert recordings. The Archives
has worked with numerous publishers of Pink Floyd books and magazines,
has helped the band members out with various requests and has been
involved in assisting MTV with their Pink Floyd specials.
You can contact the Archives by mail at
Vernon Fitch
Pink Floyd Archives
P.O. Box 13844
St. Petersburg, FL
U.S.A. 33733
...or e-mail to "Vernon_Fitch@notes.cch.com" See also Q9.
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[-] 12. "What kind of artwork is available for Floyd records/CDs?"
A lot, as any serious Floyd collector can probably tell you. Following are
several lists dealing with variations in the album artwork, colored vinyl,
CD artwork, etc.
[-] 12.1 "What variations are there in the album art?"
Here is a list of known variations (all vinyl, unless otherwise noted):
Pink Floyd: Some with paisley stripes, others with rainbow stripes.
Piper, ASoS: New reissues include "Fame" written across one corner.
[Fame being a division of Harvest]
Ummagumma: The "album" leaning on the wall in some pressings is
the soundtrack to "Gigi" (ommitted in US pressings due to
copyright ownership problems).
OBC: Flat (non-glossy) cover.
Meddle: Textured (not smooth) cover, with no writing (import).
Relics: Originally featured art by Nick Mason, a line-drawing
of some weird (almost Dr. Seuss-like) cityscape. Some
had "Pink Floyd" in pink letters. Later replaced with
some weird "masks," which were in reality some bizarre
form of bottle-openers. The Australian CD featured
old coins on the cover.
DSotM: Originally came with two posters--one of Egyptian
pyramids viewed through a green filter, and one with
pictures of the band in concert. Also came with two
stickers showing cartoon pyramids, moons, and other
such images in various views with the words "Pink
Floyd" (these can be seen on the "invisible man's"
suitcase on the back of WYWH.)
DSotM: Some imports have a different view of the pyramids, in blue.
A Nice Pair: Early British pressings had a picture of the outside
of "W. Phang"'s dentistry office, but he complained
("Dentists aren't allowed to advertise,") so it was
changed to show a picture of a monk gargling. U.S.
Versions have the "Phang" picture. Both versions
differ slightly in the arrangement and selection of
inner-cover pictures.
WYWH: Originally came with a postcard of the "diver" in the
lake. I have seen two different views of the diver,
one with a straight cut around the postcard, and one
with a zigzag cut. Originally released in dark purple
unmarked shrink wrap with only a round seal with the
robot handshake.
WYWH: Also a rare gatefold cover, with the two outside being
the fire and sand, and the two inside covers water & air.
MLoR: Slightly different album cover--different angle to the
photograph, the people were in different places. Also
included a poster. A UK pressing.
ATD: Special "Audiophile" 2-lp vinyl version, with larger booklet
and more photos (most from the videos).
Note that this list does not include Japanese pressing differences, as
there are many weird variations of things found from Japan, many of
which include lyric sheets that are often completely wrong!
In addition to all these variants, there are the Tower pressings of _Piper_,
ASoS, and _More_, plus all the albums that later had Universal Product
Codes added to them.
[-] 12.2 "What colored vinyl is available?"
Dark Side of the Moon: Blue, Clear, White, Pink, picture disc
The Wall: Orange
Atom Heart Mother: Grey (smoke coloured), Plum
Wish You Were Here: Blue, clear, picture disc
A Momentary Lapse Of Reason: White
Animals: Pink
One Slip, On the Turning Away, Money 12": Pink
The Division Bell: Transparent Blue, Red [? I've heard of *one* of these]
'94 Barrett EP: Pink
And in Japan the first 6 albums (except for Ummagumma) were all pressed in
red vinyl (each as a limited edition of 500 copies)
[-] 12.3 "Vinyl Label Art"
As long as we're talking about album artwork, here's a list of some of the
original "label" artwork from the LPs:
DSotM: Black label with white prism
WYWH: Black & blue line drawing of robot hands
Animals: Fish-eye lens pictures of area around power station
Wall: The wall, in various stages of construction, with
"appropriate" Gerald Scarfe characters
TFC: Poppy fields & a dead soldier (w/knife in his back)
AMLoR: Boat on water, beds
KAOS: The "Radio KAOS" & song listing in green
TDB: Stylized two heads (pg 6 of CD booklet) /
Guys holding 3 really big red+white+blue striped banners
(back cover of CD booklet)
[-] 12.4 "List of CD Art"
Here is a quick list of what the Harvest CD's have (most from from Dave Cowl)
WYWH has : The Black cover with the metallic hands and four background
`scenes' (was on the top left corner of some vinyls here).
+ Men shaking hands w fire + red satin w woman behind
+ lake w legs coming out vertically (in colour!) + invisible man
w clear vinyl of the album + man swimming in sand + `leaking
holes' w water pouring out amongst the lyrics.
Animals has the monochrome pictures from the gatefold album. My CBS
version has bigger lyrics!
The Wall has all the Scarfe drawings from the album and the credits all
written in `graffiti' writing.
The Final Cut has the three album pictures + lyrics printed white on
black (as per the album gatefold).
Great Dance Songs (rare) has the gatefold pictures.
Momentary Lapse has all the album pictures (original CBS here
didn't - later copies did).
Delicate Sound has 36 page colour book (CBS here had 28 page) More
pictures than the CBS, but the CBS had a few that the EMI didn't.
Pro's and Cons has lyrics against orange backdrop with woman like
shadow shapes
KAOS had a little satellite on the front and bigger lyrics than the
CBS version.
KAOS has a real neat CD label. Morse code and stuff.
About Face has all the lyrics.
Delicate Sound is dark with orange writing.
Amused has all the lyrics white on black.
Division Bell has all the lyrics, with a picture associated with each
song. Many small differences between EMI and Columbia (P4Q29).
Also of note, where the writing on the album covers is in some special
script, the title on the actual CD is in the same script.
(WYWH, Animals, The Wall, Dance Songs, The Final Cut, Pro's and Cons)
[-] 12.5 "Are there posters available of the album artwork?"
There are many more Pink Floyd posters than is feasible to list here,
including many of the album covers, in many different sizes. Here's the
address of the company that distributes most of them:
Anabas
Bridge Close
Romford, Essex
RM7 0AU
England
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[+] 13. "What are some very rare releases or packages?"
Aside from the list of rare music above, some other Pink Floyd rarities that
have been discovered are:
Arnold Layne/Candy & A Currant Bun - rare picture sleeve
Apples & Oranges/Paintbox - DJ picture sleeve
It Would Be So Nice - 1983 12" 1 sided
When The Tigers Broke Free/ - 12"
Bring The Boys Back Home
Money - 1 sided 12" pink vinyl
Pink Floyd - US version of _Piper_, but
with "Arnold" and "Emily" instead
of "Flaming" and "Astronomy Domine"
Dark Side of the Moon - 1973 DJ Sampler 12"
Pompeii - DJ Sampler 12"
Off The Wall - 1979 DJ Sampler 12"
Tour '75 - 1975 DJ Promo--studio tracks +
David Gilmour - 1978 DJ Promo EP @
First XI - box set of Piper->Final Cut,
with original sleeves except
DSOTM & Animals (picture discs)
Pink Floyd--The Box - European box set of WYWH through
MLoR CDs (including ACoGDS)
Q4SHVL 781 _Atom Heart Mother_ - quad mix *
Q4SHVL 804 _The Dark Side of the Moon_ - quad mix
Q4SHVL 814 _Wish You Were Here_ - quad mix
The Division Box - limited edition TDB promo %
Flaming/The Gnome - Tower 368, unique "Gnome"
Not Now John (obscured) - 12" 1 sided DJ
Run Like Hell (6:21/3:25) - single
On the Turning Away/Run Like Hell - pink vinyl single
Banded & edited _Animals_ - DJ version
Money/Another Brick in the Wall (II) - 12" pink vinyl
Remember a Day/Let There Be More Light - single
One of These Days - single
'94 Barrett EP - pink vinyl #
Love on the Air - picture disc
The Midnight Sun (part 1 & 2) - [I've seen mention of it in *one*
book, and talked with *one* dealer
who claims to have seen it.
It probably doesn't exist. - djs]
+ Capitol's attempt to get back catalog moving. Contained: "The Gold It's
in the....," "Wots...Uh The Deal," "Free Four," "Fat Old Sun," "One of
These Days," "Astronomy Domine," and "Careful With That Axe, Eugene."
@ Four-track promo sampler for the _David Gilmour_ LP, with "Deafinitely,"
"Mihalis," "Short And Sweet" and "So Far Away."
% Contains:
A copy of _The Division Bell_ CD
A copy of the "High Hopes" CD single
A promotional "Division Bell", which was a little silver-plated bell,
about six inches long, with handle.
A custom denim shirt/jacket (black)
# Contains album versions of "Terrapin," "Octopus," "Baby Lemonade," and
"Effervescing Elephant"
* The Floyd also apparently spent some time in the studio recording a
quad mix of _Meddle_. However, this was never released...
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[+] 14. "What are all these remasters and gold discs?"
The original releases of some Pink Floyd albums used inferior masters; and,
in the case of some CD releases, featured poor analog-to-digital conversions.
Thus there have been a fair number of "special" releases that attempt to
correct these deficiencies.
List of "Original Master" Type Releases:
Vinyl
MFSL:
Meddle (Limited Edition)
Dark Side of the Moon
Atom Heart Mother (Anadisq 200 Limited Edition)
MFSL UHQR (Ultra High Quality Record)
Dark Side of the Moon
Columbia:
Wish You Were Here
The Wall
A Collection of Great Dance Songs
CD
MFSL:
Atom Heart Mother
Meddle
Dark Side of the Moon
The Wall (out of print)
(with the scheduled _Ummagumma_ experiencing technical difficulties...)
Sony:
Shine On (ASoS, _Meddle_, DSotM, WYWH, _Animals_, _The Wall_, and AMLoR)
Amused to Death SBM
Wish You Were Here SBM
Capitol:
Dark Side of the Moon XX (Remastered 20th Aniversary Edition)
[*] 14.1 "The _Shine On_/EMI remasters"
Remastered versions of ASoS, _Meddle_, DSotM, WYWH, _Animals_, and _The Wall_
have been available since 1992 as part of the Sony/EMI _Shine On_ box set.
More recently, these remastered albums have been made available seperately;
and additionally, most other Floyd albums have been or are scheduled to be
remastered in the same manner (see Q4). The only exceptions are the
compilation albums and MLoR, DSoT, and TDB.
These remasters are based on the original master tapes, and were done by
Doug Sax (supervised by James Guthrie) at the Mastering Lab, in Los Angeles.
They generally represent a higher level of quality than the previous Harvest
discs (which in turn were generally superior to the Capitol discs sold in
the US). In addition to the hightened sound quality, the remastered editions
feature (in almost all cases) expanded booklets with new artwork and lyrics
(even on the early albums!); the discs themselves are all picture discs.
NOTE: There has been some disagreement over whether the new EMI discs that
have _Shine On_ counterparts are or are not identical. The general
consensus is that they are; and if they are not, then they were at
least done by the same people, at the same location, with the same
equipment, at the same time, and for the same company.
[+] 14.2 "The MFSL Gold Discs"
These "Ultradiscs," produced by Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs, have three main
selling points:
+ The gold surface prevents oxidation from occurring. Of course, cases
of non-defective aluminum CDs oxidizing are *extremely* rare (I haven't
heard of any, in fact).
+ The gold surface decreases the need for error correction; the sound you
hear is more precisely the sound you were meant to hear.
+ Most importantly, MFSL takes a great deal of care to use the best possible
masters for their discs, and to master and press them to be as close to
perfect as possible. For example, the original Capitol DSotM was taken
from an old quadraphonic LP master, not the original master. To compound
the problem, instead of placing right front and right rear on the same
channel (and the same for left), they put the two front channels on one
side and the two rear on the other. As another example, _The Wall_
contained a very audible "pop" right before "Comfortably Numb, which the
MFSL disc does not suffer from.
In addition, recent MFSL Ultradisc II's use a special conversion process
called the "GAIN" System that results in sound even better than previous
Ultradiscs. The _Atom Heart Mother_ MFSL CD uses this process.
There's a lot more info on Mobile Fidelity at their WWW page:
http://nearnet.gnn.com/gnn/bus/mfsl/index.html
They also have an e-mail address: mofi@mofi.com
[-] 14.3 "Sony's SBM Process"
Sony's Super Bit Map (SBM) Process [from Dave Cowl:]
One samples the analogue at 20 bits. (Or one takes a 20 bit master.)
Apparently, new digital recorders are being made which will record
20 bit samples - previously a hard disc recording system was required
(and seems to be the way they still do it mostly).
Then one analyses the round off bits, to accurately ascertain the
quantisation noise.
The quantisation noise spectrum is calculated, and then shaped so that
the noise is shifted to be mainly in the higher frequencies, where it
is less audible. The total noise level is the same - just the frequency
band where the noise occurs differs. This modified quantisation noise is
then used to choose the last bit (or 2 bits?) of the 16. So, instead of
being white noise added to 14 bits resolution, or (apparently worse)
pure quantisation noise, it is an accurately sampled waveform with the
noise largely shifted away from the lower frequencies.
The result is supposed to be difficult to distinguish from the 20 bit
master.
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[+] 15. "What were the working titles for some songs/albums?"
Several Pink Floyd works had early titles that never made it to album.
Some can be found on RoIOs, some are from session logs, etc. Here is a
list of those we know about:
Original title Today's title
============== =============
Let's Roll Another One Candy and a Currant Bun
Games for May See Emily Play
Percy the Ratcatcher Lucifer Sam
Doreen's Dream Julia Dream
The Amazing Pudding Atom Heart Mother Suite
We Won the Double,
Through The Knotholes In
Granny's Wooden Leg,
Nothing To The Sun
And Back,
Return of The Son
of Nothing Echoes
The Massed Gadgets of Hercules A Saucerful of Secrets
Eclipsed _The Dark Side of the Moon_
Ecclesiastics The Great Gig in the Sky
Baby Blue Shuffle in D Major Narrow Way Part 1
The Dark Side of the Moon Brain Damage
Keep Smiling People,
Murderistic Woman Careful With That Axe, Eugene
Of Promises Broken,
Signs of Life,
Delusions of Maturity _A Momentary Lapse of Reason_
Home _Radio KAOS_
Fallen Angel What God Wants
The Violent Sequence (became the basis for "Us and Them")
Raving and Drooling (became "Sheep")
You Gotta Be Crazy (became "Dogs")
The Big Bong Theory _Shine On_
Awaken to the Sense of Reality _The Division Bell_
The Whale Song Marooned
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[+] 16. "A Collection of Great Concert Setlists (and Players)"
This is by no means a comprehensive list of *all* the gigs Pink Floyd have
ever played. Rather, it is a collection of representative performances,
important or oft-mentioned shows, and a list of any additional musicians
that played. Compiled with great help from the "ASoS" and "Journey Through
Time and Space" books
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London Free School (Powis Gardens) -- October, 1966:
Pink Theme; Let's Roll Another One; Gimme a Break; Piggy Back; Stoned Alone;
I Can Tell; The Gnome; Interstellar Overdrive; Lucy Leave; Take Up Thy
Stethoscope and Walk; Flapdoodle Dealing; Snowing; Matilda Mother;
Pow R. Toc H.; Astronomy Domine
Top Gear Show (BBC) -- September, 1967:
Flaming; Apples and Oranges; Scarecrow; The Gnome; Matilda Mother
Top Gear Show (BBC) -- December, 1967:
Vegetable Man; Scream Thy Last Scream; Pow R. Toc H.; Jugband Blues
Top Gear Show (BBC) -- June, 1968:
Julia Dream; Murderistic Woman; Let There Be More Light; Massed Gadgets of
Hercules
Fantasio, Amsterdam, Holland -- May 31, 1968:
Let There Be More Light; Interstellar Overdrive; Keep Smiling People; Flaming;
Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; A Saucerful of Secrets
NOTE: In many places, this concert is listed as having taken place on Sept 1
of 1968 (or '69). However, this seems unlikely, based on the inclusion
of "Keep Smiling People," which was a very mellow early version of
"Careful with that Axe, Eugene." In the developmental cycle of the
song, KSP appears to be somewhere between the version recorded for
"The Committee" in May '68 and "Murderistic Woman," first performed
sometime before September '68. Thus the May 31 date makes sense.
Thanks to Gerhard and Piet de Bondt for clearing this up.
Fairfield Hall, Croyden, England -- January 1970:
Astronomy Domine; The Violent Sequence; Set The Controls for the Heart of
the Sun; Careful With That Axe, Eugene; Embryo; Main Theme (from _More_);
Biding My Time; A Saucerful of Secrets
Fillmore West, San Francisco -- March 1970:
Atom Heart Mother; Cymbaline; Green is the Colour; Careful With That Axe,
Eugene; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Embryo; A Saucerful of
Secrets; Interstellar Overdrive
City Hall, Sheffield, England -- December 1970:
Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast; Embryo; Fat Old Sun; Careful With That Axe,
Eugene; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; A Saucerful of Secrets;
Atom Heart Mother
Hunter College, New York -- May 1971:
Embryo; Fat Old Sun; Atom Heart Mother; One of These Days; Careful With That
Axe, Eugene; Cymbaline; Echoes; A Saucerful of Secrets
Rainbow Theater, London -- February 1972:
_The Dark Side of the Moon_; One of These Days; Careful With That Axe, Eugene;
Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Echoes
Radio City Music Hall, New York -- March 1973:
Obscured By Clouds; When You're In; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun;
Careful with that Axe, Eugene; Echoes; _The Dark Side of the Moon_
Players:
Dick Parry saxophone
The Blackberries female vocal duo
American Tour -- Spring 1975:
Raving and Drooling; You've Got to be Crazy; Shine On You Crazy Diamond
(Parts 1-5); Have a Cigar; Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts 6-9);
_The Dark Side of the Moon_; Echoes
"In The Flesh" (_Animals_) World Tour -- 1977:
Sheep; Pigs on the Wing (Part 1); Dogs; Pigs on the Wing (Part 2); Pigs (Three
Different Ones); _Wish You Were Here_; Money; Us and Them
(With "Careful with that Axe, Eugene" added as final encore on 9 May, 1977)
Players:
Snowy White guitar
Dick Parry saxophone & keyboards
_The Wall_ Tour -- 1980-81
In the Flesh?; The Thin Ice; Another Brick in the Wall (Part 1); The Happiest
Days of Our Lives; Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2); Mother; Goodbye Blue
Sky; What Shall We Do Now?; Young Lust; One of My Turns; Don't Leave Me Now;
Another Brick in the Wall (Part 3); Goodbye Cruel World; Hey You; Is There
Anybody Out There; Nobody Home; Vera; Bring The Boys Back Home; Comfortably
Numb; The Show Must Go On; In the Flesh; Run Like Hell; Waiting for the Worms;
Stop; The Trial; Outside the Wall
Players:
First Series--New York, Los Angeles, and London:
Andy Bown bass
Snowy White guitar
Willie Wilson drums
Peter Wood keyboards
Jon Joyce vocals
Stan Farber vocals
Jim Haas vocals
Joe Chemay vocals
Second Series--Dortmund and London:
Andy Bown bass
Andy Roberts guitar
Willie Wilson drums
Peter Wood keyboards
Jon Joyce vocals
Stan Farber vocals
Jim Haas vocals
Joe Chemay vocals
Plus the announcers in each city -- among them Cynthia Fox in L.A. and Gary
Udman/Yudman (?) in New York
David Gilmour _About Face_ American Tour -- Summer 1984:
Until We Sleep; All Lovers are Deranged; Love on the Air; Mihalis; Cruise;
Short and Sweet; Money; Out of the Blue; Let's Get Metaphysical; You Know
I'm Right; Run Like Hell; Blue Light; Murder; Comfortably Numb
Players:
Mick Ralphs guitar
Mickey Feat bass guitar
Chris Slade drums
Raff Ravenscroft saxophone
Jody Linscottt percussion
Gregg Dechart keyboards
Roger Waters _P&C_ European and American Tours -- Summer 1984:
Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Money; If; Welcome to the Machine;
Have A Cigar; Wish You Were Here; Pigs on the Wing; In The Flesh; Nobody
Home; Hey You; The Gunners Dream; _The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking_; Brain
Damage; Eclipse
Players:
Roger Waters bass
Andy Newmark drums
Eric Clapton lead guitar
Tim Renwick rhythm guitar
Chris Stainton piano
Micheal Kamen keyboards
Mel Collins saxophone
Katie Kassoon backing vocals
Doreen Chanter backing vocals
Roger Waters _P&C_ American Tour -- Spring 1985:
Welcome the the Machine; Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun; Money; If;
Wish You Were Here; Pigs on the Wing; Get Your Filthy Hands off My Desert;
Southampton Dock; The Gunners Dream; In The Flesh; Nobody Home; Have A Cigar;
Another Brick in the Wall (Part 1); The Happiest Days of our Lives; Another
Brick in the Wall (Part 2); _The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking_; Brain Damage;
Eclipse
Players:
Roger Waters bass
Katie Kissoon vocals
Doreen Chanter vocals
Andy Fairweather-Low guitars
Andy Newmark drums
Jay Stapley lead guitar
Michael Kamen keyboards
Mel Collins saxophone
Roger Waters, _KAOS_ Tour -- Fall 1987:
Radio Waves; Welcome to the Machine; Who Needs Information?; Money; In The
Flesh; Have a Cigar; Pigs (Three Different Ones); Wish You Were Here; Mother;
Molly's Song; Me or Him; The Powers That Be; Going to Live in L.A.; Sunset
Strip; Fish Report With A Beat; Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking; Arnold Layne
(video); If; Every Stranger's Eyes; Not Now John; Another Brick in the Wall
Part I; The Happiest Days of Our Lives; Another Brick in the Wall Part II;
Nobody Home; Home; Four Minutes; The Tide is Turning (After Live Aid);
Breathe; Brain Damage; Eclipse
Players:
Graham Broad drums
Paul Carrack keyboards & vocals
Doreen Chanter vocals
Mel Collins saxophones
Andy Fairweather-Low guitars
Katie Kissoon vocals
Jay Stapley guitars
Jim Ladd DJ
With guest appearances by Clare Torrey on "The Great Gig in the Sky" at
Wembley Arena and Jim Haas, Jon Joyce and Joe Chemay doing a guest appearance
on 20 Sept 1987 on "In the Flesh" and "Outside the Wall."
_AMLoR_ American Tour -- Autumn 1987 (Sept 5 through 25):
Echoes; Signs of Life; Learning to Fly; A New Machine (Part 1); Terminal
Frost; A New Machine (Part 2); Sorrow; The Dogs of War; Yet Another Movie; On
The Turning Away; One of These Days; Time; On The Run; Money; Another Brick
In The Wall (Part 2); Comfortably Numb; One Slip; Run Like Hell; Shine On You
Crazy Diamond
The "Echoes" shows from the MLoR tour are as follows:
09 Sep Lansdowne Park Stadium, Ottawa, Ontario
12 Sep The Forum, Montreal, Quebec
13 Sep The Forum, Montreal, Quebec *
14 Sep The Forum, Montreal, Quebec *
16 Sep Municipal Stadium, Cleveland, OH *
17 Sep Municipal Stadium, Cleveland, OH
19 Sep JFK Stadium, Philadelphia, PA **
21 Sep CNE Stadium, Toronto, Ontario
22 Sep CNE Stadium, Toronto, Ontario
23 Sep CNE Stadium, Toronto, Ontario
25 Sep Rosemont Horizon, Chicago, IL
* "Shine On" included with encore
** "Shine On" included with encore, "One Slip" not in encore
_AMLoR_ American Tour -- Later in Tour, 1987:
Shine On You Crazy Diamond; Signs of Life; Learning To Fly; Yet Another Movie;
A New Machine Part I; Terminal Frost; A New Machine Part II; Sorrow; Dogs of
War; On The Turning Away; One Of These Days; Time; On The Run; Wish You Were
Here; Welcome To The Machine; Us And Them; Money; Another Brick In The Wall
Part II; Comfortably Numb; One Slip; Run Like Hell
(added "Great Gig in the Sky" before WYWH in July 1988)
Players:
Jon Carin keyboards, vocals
Scott Page saxophone, guitar
Tim Renwick guitars, vocals
Guy Pratt bass, vocals
Gary Wallis percussion
Margaret Taylor vocals
Durga McBroom vocals
Rachel Fury vocals
Lorelei McBroom vocals (later replacing her sister, Durga)
Roger Waters "Wall in Berlin" -- 21 July 1990:
In the Flesh?; The Thin Ice; Another Brick in the Wall Part I; The Happiest
Days of Our Lives; Another Brick in the Wall Part II; Mother; Goodbye Blue
Sky; Empty Spaces/What Shall We Do Now; Young Lust; One of My Turns; Don't
Leave Me Now; Another Brick in the Wall Part III; Goodbye Cruel World; Hey
You; Is There Anybody Out There?; Nobody Home; Vera; Bring the Boys Back Home;
Comfortably Numb; In the Flesh; Run Like Well; Waiting for the Worms; Stop;
The Trial; The Tide is Turning
Players: [lots of guests who aren't listed here, plus:]
The Bleeding Heart Band:
Graham Broad drums
Rick Difonso guitar
Andy Fairweather Low guitar & bass
Nick Glennie-Smith keyboards
Snowy White guitar
Peter Wood keyboards
Joe Chemay backing vocals
Jim Farber backing vocals
Jim Haas backing vocals
Jon Joyce backing vocals
Knebworth -- June 30 1990:
Shine On You Crazy Diamond; Sorrow; Wish You Were Here; The Great Gig In
The Sky (with Clare Torry); Money; Comfortably Numb; Run Like Hell
Roger Waters -- Guitar Legends show in Seville, Spain, November 17, 1991
In the Flesh; ABitW2; What God Wants (pt.1); Brain Damage; Eclipse;
Comfortably Numb (with Bruce Hornsby)
Roger Waters -- Walden Woods Benefit, Los Angeles, April 1, 1992
In The Flesh; The Happiest Days of Our Lives; ABitW2; Mother; Comfortably
Numb
_TDB_ 1994 World Tour -- Set 1
Astronomy Domine; Learning to Fly; What Do You Want From Me; On the Turning
Away; [A Great Day for Freedom/Poles Apart/Lost For Words/Coming Back to
Life]; Sorrow; Take it Back; Keep Talking; One of These Days; Shine On;
Breathe; Time; Breathe Reprise; High Hopes; Wish You Were Here; Another Brick
in the Wall Part II; The Great Gig in the Sky; Us and Them; Money; Comfortably
Numb; Hey You; Run Like Hell
_TDB_ 1994 World Tour -- Set 2
Shine On; Learning to Fly; High Hopes; Take it Back; Coming Back to Life; Keep
Talking; Sorrow; Another Brick in the Wall Part II; One of These Days; _Dark
Side of the Moon_; Wish You Were Here; Comfortably Numb; Run Like Hell
Players:
Jon Carin keyboards, vocals
Tim Renwick guitars, vocals
Guy Pratt bass, vocals
Gary Wallis percussion
Dick Parry saxophone
Durga McBroom vocals
Sam Brown vocals
Claudia Fontaine vocals
NOTE: Set 2 was performed in the US on July 15-18 (Detroit and New Jersey).
Both sets were used throughout Europe. The Oslo shows (8/29-30/94)
added "Marooned" as an encore (the only times the song was performed).
Consult Piet's tour files (P0Q4.4) for info on specific shows.
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[-] 17. "What is the address of Pink Floyd's management?"
For Pink Floyd, from the "Shine On" book:
Steve O'Rourke
EMKA Productions, Ltd.
43 Portland Road
London, W11 4LJ
01-221 2046
And, for Roger Waters:
Mark Fenwick
63a Kings Road
London
SW3 4NT
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[*] 18. "Fleudian Slips"
Not a slip itself, but since it inspired this section... On the inner sleeve
of David Gilmour's _About Face_ LP, printed in the bottom right-hand corner,
is "Fleudian Slip."
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On the remastered CD of _A Saucerful of Secrets_ (made in Holland/printed in
the UK), on the CD itself the title track is spelled "...Secret."
The _Shine On_ set contains a fair number of errors:
+ In the lyrics for "Breathe In The Air" on DSotM, the line "Don't sit down
it's time to start another one" is printed; "start" should be "dig."
+ There are several mistakes on the DSotM insert. Waters is incorrectly
given credits on "Speak to Me" and "The Great Gig in the Sky," while
Wright is (mis)credited for "On the Run."
+ On the lyrics pages for WYWH, SOYCD is strangely divided. Parts I-V are
so labeled, but Parts V1-IX are labeled "Part 2."
+ In _The Wall_ Disc One, on the CD insert, ABitW3 is credited twice; once
(correctly) to Waters, and once (incorrectly) to Waters/Ezrin.
+ The CD insert on Disc Two of _The Wall_ leaves "The Trial" uncredited; it
should be Waters/Ezrin.
+ The MLoR CD insert has "Yet Another Movie" as Track 6 and "Round and
Around" as Track 7. The latter should be 6a, as on the CD itself (though
this may have been done for crediting reasons).
The CD booklet of _More_ omits credits to Gilmour and Mason on the "Dramatic
Theme." Mason is also left out of the crediting for the "Main Theme."
On the XX DSotM release, on the CD itself, track 1b is labeled "Breath in
the Air." "Breathe in the Air" is the correct spelling; with "Breathe"
being an accepted official shortening.
The jewel boxes of some OBC CDs are erroneously marked ADD (analog recording,
digital mixing/editing, digital mastering). As is written on the CD itself,
they are AAD. (I've also heard of this happening on both _More_ and
_Meddle_.)
David Gilmour's name tends to get misspelled quite a bit. It's spelled
"Glimour" on the inside credits of some versions of the _Final Cut_ CD,
while some ASoS releases have it as "Gilmore." It's also "Gilmore" on the
credits to the film, "More" (though this may have been an intentional
play on words).
In the _Dark Side of the Moon_ guitar tablature book, "Any Colour You Like"
is listed as "Breathe (Second Reprise)"
The US CD booklet of _David Gilmour_ adds a preceeding "It's" to the title
of "Deafinitely." The title is printed correctly on the disc itself.
In the printed lyrics for "What God Wants Part I", some versions of ATD have
"The alien cried prophet" written; "prophet cried" is what's sung.
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[+] 19. "All about Quadraphonics"
Quadraphonic systems allow the recording and reproduction of four distinct
channels of sound (as opposed to the two channels of standard stereo).
The system the Floyd used for their three Quad albums (_Atom Heart Mother_,
DSotM, and WYWH) was also known as "the SQ system." The following is an
explanation of the system taken from a quad LP, and some additional notes,
both courtesy Aaro Koskinen.
[+] 19.1 "How the SQ system works"
The SQ systems enables four channels of sound to be reproduced from the
left and right hand walls of the groove of an LP record.
To attain this it has been necessary to develop two devices - the Encoder
to convert four signals from the quadraphonic master tape to two signals
and the Decoder to decipher these complex signals and convert them back
again to four separate signals for reproduction from four loudspeakers.
With the two additional channels of the quadraphonic tape, the Encoder
produces two additional modulation components.
The SQ disc, then, carries in its grooves four encoded signals.
To decipher these four signals and recreate the quadraphonic sources,
the SQ Decoder is needed. The Decoder senses the four basic modulations
and produces four signals containing predominantly the sounds of the
corresponding original four quadraphonic tape channels.
For the SQ system, these are:
Front left - major left w/ minor feeds to rear left and front right
Front right - major right w/ minor feeds to front left and rear right
Rear left - major rear left w/ minor feeds to front left and rear
right
Rear right - major rear right w/ minor feeds to rear left and front
right
These signals are then directed to power amplifiers and four loudspeakers
placed in the respective corners of the listening area, resulting in a
realistic reproduction of the original quadraphonic master tape.
However, no special pickup is needed. Stereo pickup cartridges are
capable of receiving all of these modulations.
[-] 19.2 "What do I need to play Quad albums?"
The only special equipment you need is a "SQ decoder", which you place
on the turntable (cartridge) output leads. Then you need of course two
amps and four speakers.
Apparently the decoders are no longer being manufactured.
BTW, if you play Quad LPs without decoder, the result is just normal
stereo.
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[+] 20. "Some words about RoIOs"
Recordings of Illegitimate/Indeterminate Origin are the topic of much of the
discussion that goes on, on the 'net, and so it seemed wise to make some
comments about them...
[-] 20.1 "Why use 'RoIO'?"
There are various reasons for this, but the foremost is that, even if your
mail is secure, when you post to a mailing list or newsgroup, your words are
being broadcast all over the world, to places that are potentially far from
secure. Mail involving certain illegitimate items could get you and the
recipient of your message into a fair amount of trouble. Also, using the
"b" (footwear) word on the various 'net forums (echoes or the newsgroups)
could attract unwanted attention to them, to the detriment of everyone.
[+] 20.2 "Where can I get RoIOs?"
Local stores are a good place to try first. Avoid the larger chains, such
as Tower, Music Plus, Wherehouse, Sam Goody, etc. Instead shop around at
the smaller, independent shops. Stores in large cities and college towns
are good places to look, as that's where much of the demand is. Try also
asking for "rare" or "concert" recordings, "imports," albums made by Great
Dane (for example), and that sort of thing.
The other main method of acquiring RoIOs is through tape trades. You'll
find many people willing to trade tapes with you -- just ask people to send
you their lists. And, for those beginning collections, some nice folks
will even take blank tapes in payment, if you have nothing to trade.
NOTE: While we're on the subject, please do not post lists of RoIO dealers
and their locations to the 'net. This is a very easy way to make them
ex-RoIO dealers -- they are, in general, uncomfortable with a lot of
attention. Plus, posting their location could attract the wrong sort
of attention (it's rare, but it happens more than you might think).
Likewise, if you want to mail a response to someone asking for RoIO
dealer locations, a certain amount of circumspection is in order.
[+] 20.3 "What are some good RoIOs?"
While the echoes database (Q20.6) is good for checking out particular RoIOs,
it's cumbersome to use to find a general list of good-quality recordings.
With this in mind, Herwig Henseler has put together a nice guide to some of
the better RoIOs, for those starting collections or looking for recordings
from a certain tour.
You can get this guide by mailing the following to "echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com"
get roio_guide.051294 roio
quit
Or, using a WWW browser, you can access it in full hypertext format at
http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~herwig/roio/guide.html
You can contact Herwig at "Herwig.Henseler@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE"
[+] 20.4 "Where can I find lists of RoIOs?"
A good source is a book called Hot Wacks. It's not available in most book
stores, but you may be able to find it in record shops. Or you can order
it directly:
Hot Wacks Press FAX: 519-376-9449
PO Box 544
Owen Sound, Ontario
Canada
N4K 5R1
The 1992 XV Edition has a chapter devoted to Pink Floyd, as well as 20+
pages of PF RoIO listings. Cost is US $16.95 plus $6 surface mail or $16
air mail. Supplements are printed periodically -- Supplements 1 and 2
are available.
[*] 20.5 "What are these 'Trance Remix' albums?"
They're RoIOs -- but rather than offering live or unreleased "Pink Floyd"
music, they feature Floyd songs remixed to sound more "ambient." Such
music is difficult to describe -- think of the child of a "Saucerful of
Secrets" and "Another Brick in the Wall, pt.2" union...
Trance remix versions are available of many Pink Floyd albums: _Meddle_,
OBC, DSotM, WYWH, _Animals_, _The Wall_, and MLoR; as well as remixes
that mix and match Floyd albums, such as _Welcome to the Remix_.
NOTE: Some of these albums are rumored to have been done by such groups as
The Orb, The KLF, and Nine Inch Nails' Trent Reznor. About the only
evidence for such claims I know of is that some trance remix albums
feature samples from songs done by these groups. And, as some people
have pointed out, the quality of these albums isn't altogether what
one would expect from the people mentioned.
[-] 20.6 "How do I know if a RoIO is any good?"
Thanks to the efforts of the folks on the echoes mailing list and others
around the net, there has been compiled a database of many of the more popular
RoIOs. For each item listed, information is (usually) given regarding tracks,
playing time, relative quality, and anything else appropriate.
The database can be accessed in two main ways: via the World Wide Web and via
the mail-based "echoserv" database. To use the WWW database, you need the
appropriate software, such as Mosaic. The address of the database is
http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~herwig
For those without WWW access, the echoserv database functions via e-mail.
For a list of all the RoIOs available in the database, send the following
commands to "echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com"
filelist roio
quit
(commands should be lowercase and left-justified)
This will send you back a list of files, with each file describing a
particular RoIO. To retrieve information on that RoIO, use the "send"
command, followed by the filename, and then the word "roio" You can
ask for as many files as you like at a time, one "send" request per
line. The last command should be "quit"
send <filename1> roio
send <filename2> roio
...
quit
The mail-based list processor at the heart of echoserv will then mail
you information on the RoIOs you requested.
If have a RoIO that is not in the database, please obtain the "blank" file
from the database, which is a blank form. Fill out the form and send it to
roio-maint@fawnya.tcs.com _or_ roio@fawnya.tcs.com
If you have additional comments you'd like make about a RoIO already in the
database, use the same address.
NOTE: Naturally, none of this should be taken as condoning the actual purchase
of this sort of thing where it is deemed illegal -- simply consider all
this as just a further collection of Floyd trivia.
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