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Originally compiled by David Schuetz
Currently maintained by Matt Denault
(mdenault@pomona.edu)
or (echoes-faq@fawnya.tcs.com)
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With help from all over the world!
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Section 0 - Pink Floyd Internet Reference List
[+] 01. "What Pink Floyd-related FTP sites are available?"
[+] 01.1 "List of sites"
[-] 01.2 "Can I access FTP sites even if I can't FTP?"
[-] 01.3 "Using FTPmail"
[+] 02. "Are there any World Wide Web sites?"
[+] 03. "Is there a Pink Floyd Usenet newsgroup?"
[*] 04. "Other 'Net Resources"
[*] 04.1 "Annotated Lyric Files"
[*] 04.2 "VocalList"
[*] 04.3 "Guest Work"
[*] 04.4 "Tour Files"
[-] 05. "Pink Floyd on IRC (Internet Relay Chat)"
[-] 06. "What is echoes?"
[-] 06.1 "Are there lists like echoes for other bands?"
[+] 07. "What can the echoserv server do for me?"
[+] 07.1 "Getting a list of available files"
[-] 07.2 "To get back issues of echoes"
[-] 07.3 "Getting back issues of Eclipse"
[-] 07.4 "Retrieving parts of the FAQ"
[+] 08. "Is there an echoes archive site?"
[+] 08.1 "Submitting files to the Archives"
[+] 08.2 "Index of Pink Floyd files on the FTP.HALCYON.COM Archive"
[-] 09. "Interacting with echoes"
[-] 09.1 "How to Subscribe"
[-] 09.2 "How to Unsubscribe"
[-] 09.3 "How to change between realtime and digest"
[-] 09.4 "How to Post"
[-] 09.5 "How to talk to the list administrator"
[-] 09.6 "Receiving the Digest in compressed form"
[-] 10. "echoes Posting Guidelines"
- Same as last version
+ Changed since last version
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This Document Copyright 1994, 1995 by the Echoes Mailing List and its Members
For questions on distribution, contact: echoes-faq@fawnya.tcs.com
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Note that this document assumes a fair amount of technical knowledge -- there
are no in-depth instructions on how to FTP, or how to connect to the WWW, etc.
It's assumed that if you're not sure how to do something, you will take the
responsibility to contact the appropriate Usenet help group, or to talk to
your University computing center or the MIS/IT area of your employer. Please
don't ask "how to" questions on the Pink Floyd newsgroups, mailing lists, or
other forums where it's just not appropriate. Thanks!
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[+] 01. "What Pink Floyd-related FTP sites are available?"
All of these sites offer access to Pink Floyd-related materials via anonymous
logins. What this means is that (on most sytems) you type
ftp <sitename>
Then you login as "anonymous" (or type "login anonymous," depending on the
system). For the password, enter your username@address.
Once you're in, use the
cd <directory>
command to change to the Pink Floyd directory. Use the "dir" command to
get a list of what's in the directory. Use the command
get <filename>
to retrieve a file back to your home site. Be sure to use the "binary"
command before you get any non-text file. You can use the "exit" command
to return to your home site.
[+] 01.1 "List of sites"
Site: ftp.halcyon.com
Directory: pub/pink_floyd
Description: Main site. Articles, lyrics, interviews, recent pictures, and
a whole lot of other stuff. A complete index of what's available
is in Question 8.2.
Site: ftp.uwp.edu
Directory: pub/music/artists/p/pink.floyd
Description: Mirror of the halcyon site, and also more pictures and other
information. This is one of the Internet's main music sites,
and this sort of info is available there for most groups.
Site: ftp.twi.tudelft.nl
Directory: pub/music
Description: Info on the '94 album and tour. Up-to-date list of dates for
the tour, the sets they have played so far, and assorted PF
rumours. All maintained by Piet de Bondt.
Site: humper.student.princeton.edu
Directory: floyd
Description: A mirror of what's on the WWW site (which in turn is mostly
what's on halcyon, though there is some unique stuff).
Maintained by Greg Humphreys.
Site: ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca
Directory: pub/pf
Description: Mainly pictures, of the album covers, of the '94 tour, etc.
Also some sound files, and miscelaneous items of interest.
Site: ftp.cs.pdx.pdx.edu
Directory: pub/Publius/info
Description: A collection of the Publius information available from
echoserv. Includes a history of all past Publius posts.
Site: ftp.ulaval.ca
Directory: contrib/Images
Description: Pictures from the '94 tour.
Site: ftp.nevada.edu
Directory: pub/guitar/p/pink_floyd
Description: Guitar tabs for some Floyd songs.
[-] 01.2 "Can I access FTP sites even if I can't FTP?"
Yes, you can, through the miracles of "FTPmail." The gist of FTPmail is
that you send the commands necessary to log into an FTP site and retrieve
a file to a special mail server, and that server will log in and get the
file for you, and then send it to you as a mail message.
This is real easy for text files, but there's a slight problem with
binary (picture, sound, non-text) files -- if you mail them in unmodified
form, they'll get trashed. This is solved by having the FTPmail site
convert the binary file to text when it sends it to you, and then you
can convert it back to a binary format when you get it.
The most common method for doing this is through UUencoding and UUdecoding.
FTPmail can easily UUencode a binary file, and UUdecoders for most computer
systems are readily available. The only problem is that, of course, if
you're reading this, you can't just FTP one, and you can't get one via
FTPmail 'cause you can't decode it. So you'll have to call a local BBS,
computer user group, or find some other way of getting one. Note also
that most Unix systems have UUencoding/decoding software available.
[-] 01.3 "Using FTPmail"
To use FTPmail, send the message
help
to the address
ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
This will send you a help file explaining how to use the FTPmail server.
It includes some examples, but I'll provide a further one. Say you want
to get the 1993 Rockline Interview with Roger Waters (recommended reading,
as are most of the interviews). Using the index to ftp.halcyon.com in
Question 7, you would send the following to the FTPmail server:
connect ftp.halcyon.com
ascii
chdir pub/pink_floyd/interviews
get waters.rockline.93
quit
FTPmail will shortly send you back a message saying it received your
request. It often takes a day or two for the request to process, as many
other people use this service.
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[+] 02. "Are there any World Wide Web sites?"
Yes, there are several. To use these you'll need a program that lets you
browse the Web -- such as Mosaic, NetScape, or Lynx. You can then connect
to any of the following sites:
http://humper.student.princeton.edu:80/floyd
This is the main Pink Floyd WWW site. Here you will find the FAQ in
hypertext form, numerous articles, pictures, discographies, and much more.
http://nearnet.gnn.com/gnn/bus/mfsl/index.html
This is Mobile Fidelity's (P1Q14) WWW page. It's a good place to check out
if you're interested in learning more about the MFSL discs and what makes
them special.
ftp://ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca/pub/html/homepage.html
Mainly pictures, of the album covers, of the '94 tour, etc. Also some
sound files, and miscelaneous items of interest.
http://www.utu.fi/~jounsmed/pf/pf.html
A collection of Pink Floyd chords.
http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~herwig
This is a hypertext version of the echoes RoIO database (P1Q20). In addition
to describing all the RoIOs in the database, it also features pictures of
many.
http://www.galcit.caltech.edu/~ta/cgi-bin/ubl?card+1008+reg
This is the Pink Floyd Card entry in the Ultimate Band List (which also
contains good pointers to other locations).
http://www.twi.tudelft.nl/Local/FTP/pub/music
Piet de Bondt's '94 tour information; see Q4.4
http://www.reed.edu/~mhamilto/syd.html
Dolly Rocker, the Syd Barrett home page. With articles, lyrics, and more.
all pertaining to Syd. Maintained by Michael Hamilton.
http://www.ee.pdx.edu/~henk/henk.html
A WWW site that contains Publius information, including a history of past
posts, some speculation, and relevent pictures.
http://wwwzenger.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/persons/paula/mpeg/index.html
Three short MPEG movies from "The Wall."
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[+] 03. "Is there a Pink Floyd Usenet newsgroup?"
In early 1994, a Usenet group devoted to Pink Floyd, "alt.music.pink-floyd",
was created. It has proved to be extremely popular, with 50-100+ posts a
day in its first few months of existence. The group serves as a forum to
discuss any and all Floyd-related subjects, and also the various non-Waters
solo projects.
Shortly after the creation of a.m.p-f, a newsgroup dedicated to discussion
of Roger Waters, "alt.music.roger-waters", was established. Topics covered
by this group include both Roger's solo albums and his work with Pink Floyd.
(There is, naturally, a fair amount of overlap between a.m.p-f and a.m.r-w.)
This group has more limited distribution than the Pink Floyd group -- you
may have to talk to your System Administrator in order to receive it.
A few general comments on both groups:
+ Users new to Usenet should read the introductory documents posted
periodically to the news.announce.newusers group.
+ The groups are meant for discussion only; don't post binary files
(such as pictures or sounds) to either.
+ Most of the posting guidelines for the echoes mailing list, found at
the end of this document, should also be followed on the newsgroups.
Also, you might want to check out "alt.music.progressive" -- things Floydian
are sometimes discussed there as well. Finally, Pink Floyd-related pictures
are also occasionaly posted to the "alt.binaries.pictures.misc" newsgroup.
You can request a specific picture by posting in the
"alt.binaries.pictures.d" group.
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[*] 04. "Other 'Net Resources"
Pink Floyd fans across the Internet have amassed a fair amount of information
about the band and its activities. The archives at ftp.halcyon.com and the
echoserv mail-server are the main repositories for such files; see Questions
8.2 and 7.1.
However, several of these resources merit special note...
[*] 04.1 "Annotated Lyric Files"
Many Floyd albums don't come with lyrics. Some have certain lyrics wrong.
And none tell you anything about those background voices that grace so many
of the Floyd's songs...
As a result, you can find annotated lyric files to just about all Pink Floyd
and solo member albums at:
ftp.halcyon.com in pub/pink_floyd/lyrics
See also P2Q1, 12, 17, and 18; P3Q6, 23, and 24; and P4Q14, 19, 20, and 31.
(It's a popular topic, as you can see... ;)
[*] 04.2 "VocalList"
While in most cases it's pretty obvious, on some Floyd songs there are always
questions about who in fact is singing. The VocalList file answers those
questions -- it lists the vocalist for pretty much every song that Pink Floyd
recorded. It also adds album and song credits, and the first and last time
each song was performed live.
The most recent edition of the VocalList can be obtained by mailing to
"echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com" the following, lowercase and left-justified:
mail vocallist.2.99 echoes
quit
Maintained by Gerhard den Hollander (Gerhard@jason.nl)
[*] 04.3 "Guest Work"
Over the years, the members of Pink Floyd have participated in a number of
other projects. This file lists albums and songs that Pink Floyd members,
or their associates, produced, played on, or were otherwise involved with.
The most recent version of the Guest Work file can be obtained by mailing
to "echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com" the following:
mail guest.work echoes
quit
It can also be found on the ftp.halcyon.com FTP archive (see Q8.2)
Maintained by Aaro Koskinen (Aaro.Koskinen@Helsinki.FI)
[*] 04.4 "Tour Files"
Information about all aspects of the current Pink Floyd world tour is
available, largely through the efforts of Piet de Bondt. Files available
are:
tour.charts.94 Chart results for TDB and its singles
tour.dates.94 Up-to-date list of all '94 gigs
tour.reports.94.am Set lists for all '94 American shows
tour.reports.94.eur Sets for the European shows
tour.rumours.94 Facts and rumours about Pink Floyd in '94
tour.stats.94 Tour statistics so far in '94
These can be accessed through the WWW, via anonymous FTP, and by e-mail
from the "echoes-tour" database (see Q2, Q1.1, and Q7.1, respectively).
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[-] 05. "Pink Floyd on IRC (Internet Relay Chat)"
Internet Relay Chat is basically a super version of the standard 'net TALK
program. TALK lets two people on opposite ends of the Earth talk to each
other in real time -- what one types shows up on the other's computer as
it's typed, and vice versa (well, it shows up as it's typed if you have a
good connection ;)
IRC lets many, many people talk to each other in this manner. To keep
things from getting too chaotic, it's organized into "channels" devoted to
particular topics. The main Pink Floyd IRC channel to use is
#pinkfloyd
which is generally kept open all the time. Occasionaly, some annoying soul
will take it over and make it invite-only. In this case, you might try
#pinkfloyd2
For more information on IRC, its use, conventions, etc., you should read the
IRC FAQ, posted often to the "alt.irc" Usenet newsgroup and available via FTP
at "ftp.undernet.org" in the "/irc/docs" directory. If you have questions
about how to use IRC, alt.irc is the place to direct them.
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[-] 06. "What is echoes?"
echoes is a mailing list devoted to Pink Floyd. It has been running for
about three years now. It replaces a list called "Eclipse" that ran for
several years previous. There are roughly 1000 members of echoes, on (at
last count) 5 continents.
echoes is available in two formats: realtime and digest. "Realtime" means
that you get messages as soon as they are sent by other members. The
"digest" format is composed of all the realtime postings: they are grouped
together in a more compact format, mailed out once a day or so.
echoes is a very active list: expect 50-100 messages a day (or 35k to 150k
per day). With traffic already so high, we try to avoid certain topics that
we've found do more harm than good. "Taboo" topics include:
+ Which is better: "Syd's Floyd" vs. "Roger's Floyd" vs. "Dave's Floyd"
+ Questions that are in the FAQ (the various "secret" messages,
what the pict is saying, discographies, etc...)
+ And, of course, flaming, trolling, and other things designed only to
cause trouble.
Nor is it the place to try out a big .sig -- no matter how "cool" it is.
In contrast, some typical echoes topics:
+ Interpretations of songs/albums.
+ Latest info about the band and it's activities.
+ Discussion of available unofficial albums/videos.
+ Floyd trivia *not* in the FAQ.
In other words, there isn't much talked about on echoes that isn't talked
about in the newsgroups or other forums. Rather, it's that subset of topics
that is most appropriate for a mailing list setting of knowledgeable fans.
As such, we try to keep the signal to noise ratio as high as possible and
don't take kindly to folks who only want to contribute to the noise portion.
If you violate these echoes by-laws, actions include everything from
warnings to being dropped from echoes to having a talk with your SysAdmin.
Sadly (or fortunately) this has only had to happen twice in 3 years.
(Appologies for the strictness of this description, but it seems to help
avoid trouble if folks know all this in advance.)
If you are interested in joining echoes, mail to
echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com
with the following message:
help
quit
This will send you subscription information.
[-] 06.1 "Are there lists like echoes for other bands?"
Yes, there are a great many musical mailing lists on the 'net. To get a list
of them all (The Musical List of Lists), do one of the following:
+ Finger mkwong@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
+ Get it via anonymous FTP at "ftp.uwp.edu" in "pub/incoming/faq/lomml"
+ Read it on the WWW at http://server.berkeley.edu/~ayukawa/lomml.html
+ Contact mkwong@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (only if all the above means are
unavailable to you).
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[+] 07. "What can the echoserv server do for me?"
In addition to handling echoes subscription routines (Question 9), echoserv
has stored, and can send you on request, back issues of the echoes digest and
assorted other files of interest. At this point, these files are divided
into several different databases. Each database contains its own distinct
set of files--think of them as different directories.
All commands to echoserv should be lowercase and left-justified, with the
"quit" command included (if necessary) at the end of the message, before
any .sig
For a complete "manual" for echoserv, beyond what is covered here, use
the command "help"
[+] 07.1 "Getting a list of available files"
To obtain a list of available files, mail to echoserv
echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com
and use the "filelist" command:
filelist <database>
where <database> should be replaced with the name of the directory you'd
like a listing of. Valid values are listed below. Do *not* enter the word
"<database>." This will cause an error and just send your mail back to you,
as there's no database called "<database>."
As of January '95 the current databases are:
echoes echoes digest archives of the current Volume, the FAQ list,
and other miscellaneous echoes files
echoes-vol1 Archives of Volume 1 of the echoes digest
echoes-vol2 Volume 2 of the digest
echoes-vol3 Volume 3
echoes-tour Info on the current world tour, including dates and sets
roio The main ROIO CD database (see P1Q20)
roio-lp Database of vinyl ROIOs
rolo Normal catalog items, including rarities
pc-code Programs for a PC
sun4-code Programs for a Sun
mac-code Programs for Macs
eclipse Archives from the old Eclipse mailing list
misc Stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else
publius Information on Publius (see P4Q30)
Other databases may be added from time to time. To get a list of the
currently available databases use the "index" command.
To contribute to the RoIO database, get a copy of the blank RoIO description
form, fill it out, and send it to "roio-maint@fawnya.tcs.com" [See P1Q20]
Send submissions for the other databases directly to bear ("echoes-request").
[-] 07.2 "To get back issues of echoes"
To get individual files from echoserv, you use the "mail"/"send" commands
(they are interchangable).
To get volume 1 number 1 of the echoes digest, use the following command:
mail echoes.digest.v1n1 echoes-vol1
Requests for other issues (and, later, other volumes) are constructed in the
obvious manner. As of January 22, 1995, the current digest is v4n70.
[-] 07.3 "Getting back issues of Eclipse"
To get a list of available Eclipse archives, send the command:
filelist eclipse
If you know the specific date you want, you can get the file directly, as
the date is part of the name:
send eclipsed.30aug90 eclipse
send eclipsed.01feg91 eclipse
NOTE: the filename has eclipse in the past tense (i.e. "eclipsed")
[-] 07.4 "Retrieving parts of the FAQ"
The 5 parts of the FAQ are also stored on echoserv, and can be sent to you.
They are in the "echoes" database, and the filenames are:
echoes.faq.3.0 (this document)
echoes.faq.3.1
echoes.faq.3.2
echoes.faq.3.3
echoes.faq.3.4
So, to get Part 2, you would use the command
send echoes.faq.3.2 echoes
Note that many mailers choke at about 100K characters, and the FAQ runs
*well* beyond that. If you have problems, let me know, and I can send
you the FAQ in smaller chunks.
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[+] 08. "Is there an echoes archive site?"
There is currently a Pink Floyd Archive Site at ftp.halcyon.com. This
site includes lyrics, interviews, articles, and other info, but no actual
archives of the echoes list (those are available via echoserv).
[+] 08.1 "Submitting files to the Archives"
Because of problems with people uploading pirated software, uploads to
halcyon are handled via e-mail only. To submit something for the archives,
send it to:
rjones@halcyon.com
Be sure to include a short description of what the file is, and what
directory it should go into. Files should be send UUencoded. Whenever
you type up an article, come across a picture you haven't seen before,
etc., please upload a copy to the archives, so that people years from
now will be able to take advantage of them.
[+] 08.2 "Index of Pink Floyd files on the FTP.HALCYON.COM Archive"
To give you an idea what's available, and to make things easier for FTPmail
users, here's a list of what's available at ftp.halcyon.com as of July 11.
Note: the "." before the directory name stands for "pub/pink_floyd" -- thus,
MOTHER.GIF is located in "pub/pink_floyd/pics/MOTHER.GIF"
Pictures:
./pics/MOTHER.GIF ./pics/PF94AD.JPG
./pics/TW-PASS.GIF ./pics/PFTICK.JPG
./pics/airshipc.gif ./pics/PIG90.JPG
./pics/berlin1.gif ./pics/ROGER90.JPG
./pics/berlin2.gif ./pics/TDB-BCK.JPG
./pics/berlin3.gif ./pics/TDBELL.JPG
./pics/design1.gif ./pics/THEWALL.JPG
./pics/design1a.gif ./pics/Wind_Blows.jpg
./pics/design1b.gif ./pics/design2.jpg
./pics/dsotmxx.gif ./pics/pfdsot.jpg
./pics/earlcort.gif ./pics/pfwywh.jpg
./pics/foxboro.gif ./pics/pompeii1.jpg
./pics/january.gif ./pics/pompeii2.jpg
./pics/march.gif ./pics/pompeii3.jpg
./pics/no-tix2.gif ./pics/pompeii4.jpg
./pics/pf-set-a.gif ./pics/pompeii5.jpg
./pics/pf-set-b.gif ./pics/pompeii6.jpg
./pics/podium.gif ./pics/pompeii7.jpg
./pics/podiumc.gif ./pics/pressc1.jpg
./pics/stockh-1.gif ./pics/pompeii8.jpg
./pics/stockh-2.gif ./pics/pompeii9.jpg
./pics/tdb-colr.gif ./pics/pressc2.jpg
./pics/tdb.edited.gif ./pics/pfsetpcx.zip
./pics/Devision_Bell.jpg ./pics/PFMPEG.LHA
./pics/DivisionBell.jpg ./pics/PFXMPEG.LHA
./pics/PF-ME.JPG
Articles:
./articles/Q.1991 ./articles/barrett.opel
./articles/atd.billboard.1992 ./articles/globe.1992
./articles/news.clips ./articles/ezrin.feb93
./articles/Index ./articles/atd.sep92
./articles/record.collector.1992 ./articles/hyde.bomb
./articles/barrett.1978 ./articles/melody.aug67
./articles/compleat.top.gear ./articles/melody.dec67
./articles/syd.nme.1974 ./articles/barret.rc.1993
./articles/record.coll.1992.2 ./articles/post.1993
./articles/Q.waters.1992 ./articles/press.release.94tour
./articles/Q.thorgerson.1992 ./articles/barrett.roio
./articles/TAP_SONG_LIST ./articles/syd_studio_sessions
Discographies:
./discographies/discog
./discographies/floyd.disc1
./discographies/waters.1
./discographies/Index
./discographies/single.list
./discographies/maple.disc
./discographies/uk.disc.1
./discographies/cd.singles
./discographies/rarities.pricing.93
Floydian Slip: (radio show)
./floydian_slip/floydian.zip ./floydian_slip/songlist.001
./floydian_slip/tbd2 ./floydian_slip/songlist.002
./floydian_slip/td1
Interviews:
./interviews/gilmour.source ./interviews/waters.la_times.1992
./interviews/peter.watts ./interviews/Index
./interviews/shades.of.pink ./interviews/waters.nov.92
./interviews/waters.1987 ./interviews/waters.bbc.1990
./interviews/waters.penthouse ./interviews/waters.rockline.93
./interviews/waters.wall ./interviews/barrett.1971
./interviews/snowy.white ./interviews/parsons.feb93
./interviews/gilmour.Q.1990 ./interviews/syd.roio
./interviews/waters.rcd.1992 ./interviews/wywh.gilmour
./interviews/gilmour.musician.1992 ./interviews/wywh.roger
./interviews/waters.germany.92 ./interviews/syd.nme.1974
./interviews/gilmour.rcd.1992 ./interviews/sound.bites
./interviews/gilmour-july-94 ./interviews/guitar-world-sep-94
./interviews/waters-nytimes-june-1994
Miscelaneous Lists:
./lists/guest.work ./lists/videotapes
./lists/never.live ./lists/Index
./lists/pf-roio-1 ./lists/sessions.bbc
./lists/who.sang.what ./lists/early.performances
./lists/article.list ./lists/echoserv.help
./lists/tour.list ./lists/index.subjects.vol1
./lists/cover.songs ./lists/index.issues.vol1
./lists/pf-roio-2 ./lists/vocallist
./lists/solo-roio ./lists/never.live.202
Lyrics:
./lyrics/11.wall ./lyrics/about.face
./lyrics/06.meddle ./lyrics/radio.kaos
./lyrics/09.wywh ./lyrics/03.more
./lyrics/13.momentarylapse ./lyrics/Index
./lyrics/00.singles ./lyrics/wind.blows
./lyrics/08.dsotm ./lyrics/ficticious.sports
./lyrics/05.atomheart ./lyrics/amused.to.death
./lyrics/07.obscured ./lyrics/david.gilmour
./lyrics/prosncons ./lyrics/wet.dream
./lyrics/12.finalcut ./lyrics/wa.1.the.body
./lyrics/01.piper ./lyrics/wa.3.radio.kaos
./lyrics/02.saucerful ./lyrics/division.txt
./lyrics/04.ummagumma ./lyrics/syd.barrett
./lyrics/10.animals
Miscellaneous Files and Chords:
./misc/dstom.cds ./misc/drugs.paper
./misc/echoes.poll ./misc/rmcd.jan93
./misc/montreal.1977 ./misc/echoes.nov92.poll
./misc/rmm.poll ./misc/hair.survey
./misc/drug.survey ./misc/chords.mlor
./misc/kaos.xcrpt ./misc/chords.tfc
./misc/1992.echoes.poll ./misc/chords.early
./misc/prosncons.explanation ./misc/chords.green.color
./misc/jrf.faq ./misc/chords.more.early
./misc/Index ./misc/chords.dsotm
./misc/berlin.promo ./misc/chords.wywh
./misc/kaos.intro ./misc/chords.anthology.1
./misc/prosncons.xcrpt ./misc/chords.anthology.2
./misc/oracle.answer.2 ./misc/chords.anthology.3
./misc/oracle.answer ./misc/chords.anthology.4
The FAQ:
./echoes_faq/echoes.faq.3.0
./echoes_faq/echoes.faq.3.1
./echoes_faq/echoes.faq.3.2
./echoes_faq/echoes.faq.3.3
./echoes_faq/echoes.faq.3.4
Sound Files:
./sounds/money.mod ./sounds/pftime.rol
./sounds/pfabitw.mid ./sounds/pfusthem.mid
./sounds/pfbike.mid ./sounds/pfwywh.mid
./sounds/pfbreath.mid ./sounds/pfwywh.txt
./sounds/pfbreath.rol ./sounds/anybody.amf
./sounds/pfcomfor.mid ./sounds/bluesky.amf
./sounds/pffincut.mid ./sounds/goodbye.amf
./sounds/pfheyyou.mid ./sounds/nilesong.amf
./sounds/pfsheep.mid ./sounds/ovrdrive.amf
./sounds/pfshine.mid ./sounds/echoes.wav
./sounds/pftime.cmf ./sounds/pfbreath.cmf
./sounds/pftime.mid
Reviews:
./reviews/atd.la_times ./reviews/1974.program
./reviews/panamerica ./reviews/one.world
./reviews/the.man ./reviews/berlin.90.promos
./reviews/atd.miami ./reviews/knebworth.90
./reviews/knebworth.3 ./reviews/atd.vinyl
./reviews/cowl.berlin ./reviews/tlamlil
./reviews/shine.on.ice ./reviews/bbc.sessions
./reviews/Index ./reviews/dsotm.xx
./reviews/atd.sony.mstr ./reviews/syd.box
./reviews/animals.thoughts ./reviews/wall.rehearsal
./reviews/terrapin.box ./reviews/mojo.txt
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