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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:02:52 1995
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From: steve luddingotn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Clover/AMTOR/PACTOR mailbox Freqs Needed
Date: 31 Aug 1995 23:59:48 GMT
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[e-mail] (GBohner) wrote:
>I am looking for the same, so I can access Internet email from my boat in
>the Caribbean.  If anyone has info, please send mail to [e-mail].
>Thanks in advance.


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MBO's in AS/OC - 95AUG01
R:950802/1053z @:AA7HS.#EWA.WA.USA.NOAM [Auto Import] #:25032
R:950801/0710z @:ZS5S.ZAF.AF [WW Winlink] #:84185

SB AMTOR @ WW $ZS5S_AMT084

These Amtor mailboxes in Region III forward directly to/from
the local Packet network and operate 24 hours a day, unless noted.
Listed is the mark frequency.
Separate bulletins are issued for AF/EU, NA/SA, USA/E, USA/W,
Pactor mbo's WW and Clover mbo's WW.
Software used: (A) Aplink, (G) = GPLX, (W) = Winlink
(P) = Pactor on same frequencies

9K2DZ.KWT.AS  KKDZ  Abdul - Kuwait City  - (W)
  7071 - 10128 - 14066/70/74/76.5/79
  18105.5 - 21076/76.5/79 - 24925 -  beam West

9K2EC.KWT.AS  KKEC  Mohsin - Kuwait (Y)(P)(W)  * off air *
  7038 14066/71/72/79   18105.5  21071/81  28079
  beam 330 dgs

BV5AF.TWN.CHN.AS  BVAF  Bolon - Changhua - (A)
  10127 - 14069/72/75/77/79 - 21070/72/76 - 28075

BV5AG.#APL.#CHA.TWN.CHN.AS  BVAG  Katy - Changhua - (A)
  28081

FK8BK.NCL.OC  FKBK  Louis - Noumea - 14066 (0700-1300z) - ( )

HS0AC.#APL.THA.AS - 14069.5 on request (P)

JA5TX.JPN.AS   JATX  Mitsuo in Kochi (P)(G)
   14071/72/74/76/78

VK2AGE.#NE.NSW.AUS.OC  VAGE  Gordon near Brisbane - (W) AMT CLV PCT
  7045 10111/127 14075/77 21076  (P)
    NA:    2330-0600 1030-1130  AF: 0600-0800               <= change
    AS/EU: 0800-0900 (LP) 0830-1030 1130-1300 1330-2330

VK2EHQ.NSW.AUS.OC  VEHQ  Peter near Sydney - (A)            <= change
  7042/45 10122/24/26 14070.6/73.1

VK2DW.NSW.AUS.OC  VKDW  Don near Sydney -  14070 - (A)

VK6TN.#WA.AUS.OC   VKTN  Ernie near Perth - (A)(B)(P)          < =
change
  0100-0300 AUS/NZL, 0300-0500 AUS/IND, 0700-0900 JPN: 14070/71/81
21071/79

VU2/LA9PF.IND.AS  LAPF  - ? - 14079 or 21079 -         <= expected
JULend
  (to replace VU2DPG)

ZK1DB.CKI.OC  ZKDB  Arnold - Rarotonga - (A)
  7045 (1700-2000) 10128 (2000-1000)

ZL4AK.MGA.NZL.OC   ZLAK Bill - Mangaweka  - (W) * off air *
  0300-0500: 10109/11/15/20/27/28/32/33/34/35
  2100-0300: 14068/69/70.5/71/72/74/75/77/81
             21070 21072 21074 21076 21079  (P 0500-2100)

Updates received from VK6TN HS0AC KE7XO 4X6SL

Please send your modifications to ZS5S at ZS5S.ZAF.AF or via
Internet [e-mail]




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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:02:54 1995
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From: steve luddingotn <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Clover/AMTOR/PACTOR mailbox Freqs Needed
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i have em on my mbo...try me on 7071 7073 7075

if not than ship me a short email note and ill ship em to ya...

steve aa7hs

yakima wa...



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:02:54 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JAdams227)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: """""Looking for Telenet Addresses (converse nodes)""""""""
Date: 1 Sep 1995 03:30:47 -0400
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 I have seem to lost my list of telenet addreses for converse nodes in
Tampa, and Stinis. I have found out hook up though packet and cabnt wait
to get it shot.
If any one can help out.
73's
Jim KE4OZO


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:02:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 1200 Packet Tone Freqs?
Date: 1 Sep 1995 05:43:38 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Leon Heller  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>A colleague of mine asked me if I knew what the modem FSK tone freqs for
>1200 baud packet radio were. I've looked through the ARRL Handbook, but
>can't find them anywhere! Can someone please enlighten us?

Standard 1200 baud packet is done using Bell 202 tones; 1200/2200.
There is also a 1200 baud PSK format used on some satellites, but
I doubt this is interesting.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:02:56 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Digitized voice/data via mobile packet radio
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 1 Sep 95 14:53:04 EST
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In article <423fof$[e-mail]>, kevinc@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Kevin Cameron) writes:
> Steve Sampson ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Why not just have the chase crew put a repeater in the car?
>
> The way you ask that question leads me to believe that I
> didn't make myself clear.  The chase crew rides in the car
> chasing the hang glider pilot.
>
> So, a repeater on the car wouldn't help.  Also, repeaters are
> scarce in the remote areas where such flights usually take place.
> While car-to-hg transmissions could be helped by installing a
> high powered radio, this option doesn't work out well on the
> hang glider since battery energy is limited.
>
> I guess a large antenna on the car is possible but there are
> limits there.  Perhaps a directional antenna would be possible
> to gain a few db.  This would add to the workload of the chase
> crew though.
>
> But what about the basic idea of using a long wavelength and
> cw modulation to get extended range?  Am I all wet?  How much
> range improvement could I expect for a given amount of power?
>
> Kev
> [e-mail]

The antenna is the problem. 80M would be ideal, but can you live with trailing
all that wire? Hmmm maybe if it's 28ga.

Are you familiar with APRS?
I'd think a better way would be a GPS reciever on a KPC-3 and a 2M handheld.
Set it up to beacon position into APRS WIDE digis in the area and use a laptop
in the mobile to track it. SOME of the UI packets would make it out.
What does the local APRS net look like?

Come to think of it, how about HF APRS using a 30M QRP rig? The antenna would
be a little easier to manage than on 80, and the skywave would let you get a
signal out under most conditions regardless of the terrain.

Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:02:57 1995
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Cell Phones & RFI affecting computer systems?
Date: 1 Sep 1995 15:13:46 GMT
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In <41a84t$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rob Mays) writes:
>Hi,
> Does anyone have information on Cell Phone RFI, and how it might affect large
>computer systems utilizing VLSI and high density SMT designs?  There was an
Don't know about cellphones specifically, but many years ago I was involved
intracing the erratic failure in a large machine using ecl logic.
It was caused by a nearby transmitter of about 100 watts.

Looking with the cro you could see in some parts of the m/c RF signals
which were faster than the fastest pulses. It was fm so there was no
modulation to be easily seen. It was cured by moving some of the under floor
cables away from the outside wall. It did not completely remove the signals
from the m/c logic but they were smaller and the failures never occured again.

73 Barry VK2AAB



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:02:58 1995
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From: Leon Heller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom on an XT?
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 95 20:03:22 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Greg Dolkas" writes:

> Just a sanity check....
>
> I'm considering building a Baycom packet interface, and was hoping to run it
> on an XT-class laptop (Data General / One).  The DG/1 appears to be something
> in the neighborhood of a 4-5mhz 8088.
>
> Does anybody know if this machine will be able to keep up with 1200 baud packet?> I'd rather not build the interface if it won't work...

I didn't have any problems using Baycom with a Toshiba T1000SE. Admittedly,
it did have a 9.54 MHz 8086. You should be OK, I think.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM                | "Do not adjust your mind, there is
E-mail [e-mail]  |  a fault in reality": on a wall
Phone: [phone]         |  many years ago in Oxford.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:02:59 1995
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Subject: Etch-A-Sketch
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HA>Now, now, Jay, I've heard there's a way to get a command line prompt
HA>on the Etch-A-Sketch.

HA>Gary

HA>--
HA>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
HA>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
HA>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
HA>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

If it's the Etch-A-Sketch I remember, first you make it, then you shake
it, & then you break it.
73 de WA4YJX
--Vern


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ian Cameron)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AX.25 for Linux?
Date: 1 Sep 1995 20:28:35 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>I'm in the process of putting together a Linux machine, and gee, it just
>happens to have an extra serial port available...
>
>Does anyone out there know where I can find AX.25 kernel extensions,
utilities,
>etc. for Linux?  I know I've seen them somewhere, I just don't remember
where..
>

ftp.ucsd.edu

(/pub ?)/hamradio/packet/tcpip/uploads

Is where the latest stuff is.  Look for files which look something like:

ax25utils0.30.tar.gz
kernel-029.tar.gz

Hope this helps.

Cheers and 73, Ian G0TLB.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:01 1995
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From: [e-mail] (DRichFF)
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Subject: Handsfree Operation
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I am planning on using my bike to commute to work and would be interested
in any help all of you could give me.  I have a Yaesu FT-530 dual band
handheld that I would like to carry along with me to listen and also do
some talking when I am riding.  I would appreciate any help you could give
me on what accessories would allow me to operate this radio as handsfree
as possible and also be able to hear the conversations while commuting.

Dwayne
KC4ADW


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:02 1995
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Subject: Re: Baycom for Linux?
Date: 1 Sep 1995 23:38:51 GMT
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> Linux has code for the PI2 SCC card, so it would be folly to get anything
> else.

> Leave the Baycom for the DOS boys, forget about it for real operating
> systems.

> --
> Steve

So basically what you are saying that my Baycom is about as useful as a
stump? I'm going to cooly put my 50, YES 50 DOLLAR 1200 baud modem!@$# in
a paper bag, and hit it with a big hammer. I don't understand why a 1200
baud half duplex modem would ever cost more than 15 bucks. But thats
amateur radio, people pay 100+ dollars for a friggin dipole. I guess I
was stupid enough to spend 50 on a piece of crap like this. Anyways.

I can get a 57600 grapes kit? Then what see the masses of people connect
at 1200 baud anyway? Someone told me that the saturn V project was run
off of a computer less than that of a commodore 64 and punched tape. Now
I'll be damned if a pentium can't keep up with 1200baud modem.

Now I've really said more than I wanted to. But when you buy something
then everyone in the world rags on it. You feel like grabbing a duffle
bag full of rifles and running out and shooting people from some rooftop.
I'm tired of the nerdy and techie pros and cons. I really don't care
anymore. I shoulda listened to instinct and stuck to paintball instead.

Jake




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Bramwell)
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Subject: Re: cheap & small terminal?
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 23:49:27 GMT
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In article <427hog$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Al Gerheim) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
>Subject: cheap & small terminal?
>Date: 1 Sep 1995 18:00:48 GMT

>I'm looking for a cheap (<$80) and small (palmtop) device that
>has a QWERTY keyboard plus an RS-232 interface.  Intended use
>is to communicate with a TNC.

Some sharp handheld devices have rs232.  The output is ttl level 0-5volts.
You can
(A) use a max232 to bump it to -12 +12
(B) jumper your tnc for 5volt ttl levels.

I have the Sharp 6300.  It might be called something else in the U.S. of A.

My sharp has vt100 term emulation.



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Subject: DJ580T mod question
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I am atempting to do the extended receive mod. on my DJ580T.  I know
that you are supposed to cut the red wire, but I want to make sure
which wire you cut.  With the unit's display facing up and the bottom
removed you can see a "red" loop wire that is about the same size as
the blue one, and then there is a small "orange/red" wire at the top.
I believe I cut the larger loop which is red and not the smaller loop
that is orange/red.  If anyone can clear this up for me I would greatly
appreciate it.  Thanks and 73.

KE4MBD - Travis



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:05 1995
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I would like to subscribe to your publication..send info



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:06 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Cira)
Subject: HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ulrich Guenther)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: BayCom WWW page is back!
Date: 2 Sep 1995 04:11:10 GMT
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Hi everybody,

I am pleased to report that the BayCom WW page has returned to the internet,
following an interruption of over a month. The BayCom team member in charge
of all internet activities, Fritz DF2RF, passed away suddenly on July 22nd.
A colleague of his has now offered to take over, and Johannes DG3RBU informed
me that the site has now returned. I have just checked it:

   http://www.baycom.de

It contains a lot of information on BayCom and amateur radio in Germany.
There are also contributions from BayCom partners in other parts of the
world (such as New Zealand).

According to Johannes, new information will be uploaded soon.

Thanks to those who offered to host the page after Fritz's sudden death -
it was a great show of ham spirit. Johannes believes that the current
arrangement is the best given the circumstances.

73 de Ulrich ZL1DDL



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Shanta McBain)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Baycom Software
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 07:21:12 GMT
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I just got a used Baycom TNC and it is lacking the software to use it
 What software do I need to run this hardware? Where can I get this
software.


Thanks
Shanta McBain
VE7 TIT A little bird told me so.
Vernon BC



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:09 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Sampson)
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Subject: Re: AX.25 for Linux?
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:21:13
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In article <4298lo$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Todd Jonz) writes:
>WARNING: do *NOT* waste your time trying to get the version 28b release to
>build; the patch to "slip.c" calls ax25_send_frame() with three parameters
>when it takes four.  I spent a couple of hours trying to figure out what I'd
>done wrong before finally concluding that it's a bum distribution.

You know, I've found quite a few versions that are pure crap.  I think people
don't really use it themselves when they modify the code.  I spent a lot of
time getting a newer version compiled, only to find it didn't work.  The data
came in on KISS and was lost somwhere in the stack.  It transmitted just
fine, you could see the replies with "listen", but the frame was never
processed.  Someones dicking over the code, and doesn't care if it works
or not.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:10 1995
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From: Ian Brothwell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HAL P-38?
Date: 2 Sep 1995 11:33:09 GMT
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Have a look at the DIGITAL JOURNAL which is published monthly by the
INTERNATIONAL DIGITAL RADIO ASSOCIATION.

They mentioned the P38 in several articles an issue or two ago and I expect
that a full review/report will be published in due course.

Ian G4EAN @ GB7BAD



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Danh Le)
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie questions
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Jim Barber ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Hardware:
: CPU: Intel P90, (PCI) 32mb RAM
: DISK INTERFACE : Dual-channel IDE (LBA supported)
: DISKS: (1) 1.2gb EIDE, (1) 420mb EIDE (on which I want to install Linux)
: CDROM: "Acer" brand 4x IDE (on second channel)
: VIDEO: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Turbo (PCI, mach64 chipset) 2mb vidram
: TAPE: Colorado 250 (QIC-80) on floppy controller
: OTHER: 3.5" floppy, 2 serial, 1 parallel, SB AWE-32 sound card w/8mb
:        NODE frame grabber

Excellent hardware to run Linux on...

: Questions:

: (1) I know that Linux has a ATI "mach32" X-server, (x_mach32).  Will it
: work with my mach64 card ?

The accelerated X servers works well on ATI unless you have the ISA
version of ISA graphic controller. I use mach64 server and like it
very much

: (2) Does anyone know if my CD will work with one of the drivers ?
: (say Sony?)
You will have to configure the CDROM as IDE drive. There are a lot
of HOWTO's in sunsite.unc.edu under /pub/Linux. I strongly recommend
that you read the applicable HOWTOs first before jumping into Linux.
Linux runs very well. It is very stable (definitely more than W95),
but it is just like ham radio. You will have to spend a lot of
time initially to experiment with it. There are books on Linux now
which can help you (The book "Linux Bible" is very good). When I
started Linux 2 yrs ago (v.99p15), there wasn't that much info on
it at all. It was a real challenge to get the "new toy" to work.

: (3) I would like to put Linux on my 2nd drive.  Since I have NT and
: Win95 on the 1st, is there a way to do it without having to boot from
: a floppy ?
I boot mine using a floppy diskette. The time it takes a floppy diskette
to boot up is not that long. I also run NT and DOS. Each operating
system resides in a 512meg drive (2 IDE & 1 SCSI)

: (4) Is there a really good place for Linux dummies (like myself) to
: ask endless lists of questions like these ? :)

There is a comp.os.linux.xxxx newsgroup on the net. Just spend some
time reading the articles will help you a lot. If you have questions,
just drop me an email or a packet mail, I will try my best to help
you out.

73 es Good Luck

Dan, ke6dnd
ke6dnd@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.noam
[e-mail]


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Subject: Houston Area Packet, Does it exist?
Date: 2 Sep 1995 19:02:12 GMT
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Could anyone with houston area pbbs maps and fequencies post them or tell
me where I could find some? I'm having a hard time breaking through the
locked doors to packet heaven. Thanks

JAke

KB2IVA



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:13 1995
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From: David Hough <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: mail failed, returning to sender
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I wish some people would sort out their mailing list software - bounces
should never appear in the newsgroup and shouldn't bounce back to the
original contributor either (I suffer from the latter problem
occasionally). Set it up so that bounces either drop on the floor or at
the very least inform the mailing list admin so they can remove the
address from the list.

Dave
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:14 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Kbbs Program.
From: [e-mail] (Ahmed Farhan)
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Distribution: world
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Date: Sat,  2 Sep 95 21:38:00 +0300
Organization: * Sahara BBS * Dammam,Saudi Arabia +(966)-3-833-2082 *
Lines: 3

Does anybody outtheir have the email address for the publishers of
KBBS..I need it to ask about the price of their latest version..send any
info available...thank you.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:15 1995
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Win95 and COM ports.
Date: 2 Sep 1995 22:22:58 GMT
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[e-mail] (jorge Cerezo) wrote:
>In article <40dljv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Paul J. Piercey (VO1HE)) says:
>>
>>Hi all, I may be posting to the wrong place, perhaps comp.win95.bugs would be
>>best but I have a bit of trouble with WIN95 and my COM ports and access to
>>my TNCs.
>       Is a beta-test. No Work in real-time
>

Sounds like you have an IRQ conflict. Check all your COM ports
and make sure each one has a unique IRQ. IE, not shared by any
other device.

Good luck...

73 Chuck Harrington
Chuck Harrington Software, Inc.
PacketPeT For Windows!




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:16 1995
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie questions
Date: 3 Sep 1995 05:37:03 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jim Barber) wrote:
>Greetings, folks.
>Although I'm a 15-year data processing veteran, I have *never*
>before been close to a UNIX machine, and I'm getting ready to install
>Linux for the first time ..
>
>I know there are probably better groups to ask these questions, but
>since I'm a ham, I thought I would start here.  A quick rundown of
>the hardware, then the questions. I would appreciate any help you
>guys could give..
>
>Hardware:
>CPU: Intel P90, (PCI) 32mb RAM
>DISK INTERFACE : Dual-channel IDE (LBA supported)
>DISKS: (1) 1.2gb EIDE, (1) 420mb EIDE (on which I want to install Linux)
>CDROM: "Acer" brand 4x IDE (on second channel)
>VIDEO: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Turbo (PCI, mach64 chipset) 2mb vidram
>TAPE: Colorado 250 (QIC-80) on floppy controller
>OTHER: 3.5" floppy, 2 serial, 1 parallel, SB AWE-32 sound card w/8mb
>       NODE frame grabber
>
>Questions:
>
>(1) I know that Linux has a ATI "mach32" X-server, (x_mach32).  Will it
>work with my mach64 card ?
>
>(2) Does anyone know if my CD will work with one of the drivers ?
>(say Sony?)
>
>(3) I would like to put Linux on my 2nd drive.  Since I have NT and
>Win95 on the 1st, is there a way to do it without having to boot from
>a floppy ?
>
>(4) Is there a really good place for Linux dummies (like myself) to
>ask endless lists of questions like these ? :)
>
>Thanks in advance, guys.
>
>73,
>Jim Barber  N7CXI
>[e-mail]

I don't have specific answers to your questions, but you should consult the
HOW-TO docs for Linux and will find many of the answers.  They can be found
at sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO.  One of these is on hardware
compatibility and there are others on cdroms, sound cards, etc. Also FAQs. I
use a program called LOADLIN which runs from dos and installs boots the Linux
kernel.  Another program called LILO writes to the boot area of the hard drive
and allows you to select which operating system you want.

Bob
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Tucson, AZ                          AMPRnet: [e-mail]
http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen    AX.25: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX)
Subject: Re: Baycom for Linux?
Organization: Omen Technology INC
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 06:10:15 GMT
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In article <4285ib$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
> ...
>I can get a 57600 grapes kit? Then what see the masses of people connect
>at 1200 baud anyway? Someone told me that the saturn V project was run
>off of a computer less than that of a commodore 64 and punched tape. Now
>I'll be damned if a pentium can't keep up with 1200baud modem.

As I understand it, the computer *IS* the modem, or at least the active
ingredient.  It works by measuring the time between zero crossings or
something like that.  No FIFO buffering here.  We're talking about the
equivalent of pushing 57600 bps with vanilla 8250 chips.

--
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Morris)
Subject: Re: Looking for Mfr of fire/explosion detectors that transmit by radio
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA
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[e-mail] (Freddie Freeloader) writes:

>Scenario:
> A business currently has in place approximatley 350 fire dectector
>stations that transmit on a frequency back to a central location.
>They are old (tubes are still used!).  They have self diagnostics and
>transmit two (2) seperate type codes/frequencies.  One is in the event
>of fire another is a noticification of an abnormality (i.e. broken
>wire/failed self-diagnostics).  They transmit an identifier also so
>the location is known.  This transmission in turn lights up a red
>light for a fire or a yellow light for a diagnostic problem.

>Is anyone aware of a company that sales this type of equipment?
>Are books available on the design of this type system?
>etc...etc..etc...

>What questions am I not asking that's needed to be known? (outside of
>frequency)

>Thanks in advance.

>Richard M Jackson
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]

Cetec Vega in El Monte, CA. does this kind of communications stuff.
Call 818-442-0782 and ask for Ken Bourne.  tell him Mike Morris
sent you.


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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Macintosh Ham Radio Software
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Ham Radio Test Simulators - Mac
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               FREE - NEW Macintosh HAM TEST SIMULATORS

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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:22 1995
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From: MICHELS BERTRAND <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: SUPER SMALL RADIO CONTROL SYSTEMS
Date: 3 Sep 1995 15:08:18 GMT
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Xref: grape.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:10313 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:16546

I al building SUPER SMALL RADIOCONTROL ELECTRIC AIRPLANES (bellow
4 oz, with 3 proportional chanels). My latest airplane weight 3
oz 1/2, use 4 cells Ni-CD 110 mA, a FM 4 chanel proportional
Receiver (6 grammes), 2 servos of 6 grammes (hand built in the
USA), and a 3 grammes Electronic throttle (German)... all this is
MUCH smaller then the CANNON RC System.

I am trying to built now a 2 oz Electric airplane, and for this I
need even smaller RC systems, runing under less than 5 volts.

Do you know somebody manufacturing :

- SUPER SUPER small RC Systems (Using servos or actuators, but in
all cases PROPORTIONAL)
- SUPER SMALL Electric DC motors with resonable efficiency under
1 or 2 Cells (1 to 2 volts !!). Some Micro COBALT ??


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Paul Morrison)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie questions
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:09:05 GMT
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In article <4296fp$[e-mail]>,
Jim Barber <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Questions:
>
>(1) I know that Linux has a ATI "mach32" X-server, (x_mach32).  Will it
>work with my mach64 card ?

Yes, there's a Mac64 X11R6 server
>
>(2) Does anyone know if my CD will work with one of the drivers ?
>(say Sony?)

Yes, but don't use the Sony or other CDROM drivers. Linux supports
IDE CDROMs directly. You may need to recompile the kernel to add
this support.
>
>(3) I would like to put Linux on my 2nd drive.  Since I have NT and
>Win95 on the 1st, is there a way to do it without having to boot from
>a floppy ?

yes, use Lilo.
>
>(4) Is there a really good place for Linux dummies (like myself) to
>ask endless lists of questions like these ? :)

comp.os.linux.*

>
>Thanks in advance, guys.
>
>73,
>Jim Barber  N7CXI
>[e-mail]


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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 04 15:03:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AX.25 for Linux?
Date: 3 Sep 1995 21:44:17 GMT
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Steve Sampson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4298lo$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Todd Jonz) writes:
: >WARNING: do *NOT* waste your time trying to get the version 28b release to
: >build; the patch to "slip.c" calls ax25_send_frame() with three parameters
: >when it takes four.  I spent a couple of hours trying to figure out what I'd
: >done wrong before finally concluding that it's a bum distribution.
:
: You know, I've found quite a few versions that are pure crap.  I think people
: don't really use it themselves when they modify the code.  I spent a lot of
: time getting a newer version compiled, only to find it didn't work.  The data
: came in on KISS and was lost somwhere in the stack.  It transmitted just
: fine, you could see the replies with "listen", but the frame was never
: processed.  Someones dicking over the code, and doesn't care if it works
: or not.

Where did you get the code from?  I don't get it off of ftp.ucsd.edu
anymore because I found that someone usually puts those files together
themselves, which probably explains your problems.  The AX.25 code and
the utilities are usually available from  ftp.linux.org.uk  in the
pub/Radio directory I think (ftp there, you'll see it). Plus the proper
files are usually uploaded to sites such as  sunsite.unc.edu.

If somebody ftp's the code to ftp.ucsd.edu please ONLY upload the exact
sources that the authors release and do not change it or add anything
to it at all or re-tar and re-zip it.

Ron

:


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Kory Hamzeh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AEA PK-232MBX & Yaesu FT-736R
Date: 6 Sep 1995 10:27:52 -0700
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I have a AEA PK232 TNC and a Yaesu FT-736R rig. The 736 has data in/out jack
for TNCs. This method bypasses the FM modulaters pre-emphasis and de-emphasis
circuits. Its suppose to be better, unless the TNC already compensates
for this, in which case it would be worse. The Yaesu manual states that
most TNC-2 clones already do the compensation and I believe the PK232 is
a TNC-2 clone. I've been trying for two days now to call AEA and ask them
this question, but the tech support lines are *constantly* busy.

The main reason that I want to hook up my TNC this way is that I don't
have to plug/unplug the TNC and Mic and Speaker jacks. I know I can buy
a switch box from MFJ, but then thats two more gadgets that I really don't
need.

Thanks,
Kory
KE6VWO




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: AEA PK-232MBX & Yaesu FT-736R
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In article <42klmo$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kory Hamzeh) writes:
>I have a AEA PK232 TNC and a Yaesu FT-736R rig. The 736 has data in/out jack
>for TNCs. This method bypasses the FM modulaters pre-emphasis and de-emphasis
>circuits. Its suppose to be better, unless the TNC already compensates
>for this, in which case it would be worse. The Yaesu manual states that
>most TNC-2 clones already do the compensation and I believe the PK232 is
>a TNC-2 clone. I've been trying for two days now to call AEA and ask them
>this question, but the tech support lines are *constantly* busy.

The PK-232 isn't even *close* to being a TNC-2 clone. It uses an
entirely different modem design. But it does still have tone twist
at 1200 baud. At least, unlike the TNC-2, the twist is in the
*correct* direction to compensate for the radio's emphasis/demphasis
circuits in the microphone amplifier. The MF10 in the TNC-2 is setup
to give exactly backward twist, no wonder people have problems. Ideally,
you want to supply flat twist to the modulator, but given all those other
people out there with backward twist, leaving the twist as is on the
PK-232 isn't a bad idea.

>The main reason that I want to hook up my TNC this way is that I don't
>have to plug/unplug the TNC and Mic and Speaker jacks. I know I can buy
>a switch box from MFJ, but then thats two more gadgets that I really don't
>need.

Unfortunately, most TNCs don't mute tx audio when they are idle, and
I believe the PK-232 is no exception in this regard. That means if
you try to use the mic while the TNC is powered, you'll get random
packet tones mixed with your speech. So power down the TNC before
trying to talk. Conversely, the 736 doesn't mute the mic when you
transmit tones from the TNC, so either be very very quiet, or unplug
the mic when doing packet. Seems you can't win in your quest to
avoid a switchbox or plugging and unplugging cables.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Cummings)
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Subject: Re: AX.25 for Linux?
Date: 4 Sep 1995 14:35:05 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,

>One question - what to you do with it once you got it?  I can find no
>other documentation.

Well, the networking will work normally, just add routes etc.  Read NAG for details if you need them.  The programs in the bin directory (you did get the

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:12 1995
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From: kkudielk@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (Klaus Kudielka)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AX.25 for Linux?
Date: 4 Sep 1995 15:38:45 GMT
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James D. Cronin ([e-mail]) wrote:
: One question - what to you do with it once you got it?  I can find no
: other documentation.

You need at least the AX.25 utility package:

   ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/Radio/AX25028/util028.tgz

Have a look at the man pages for axattach, call, and listen.

73 de Klaus OE1KIB

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Fred R. Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AX.25 protocol help.
Date: 6 Sep 1995 03:55:57 GMT
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In article <41u5kl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>The October 1984, AX.25 Version 2.0 is the current version.  The world of
>amatuer packet radio link-layor protocol has basically been frozen in time
>since then.

Darn tootin'!  It's almost as paleolithic as Morse, except for a few
pioneers (who we've mostly heard of).

>A number of possible solutions have been proposed over the
>years.  One of which was the A802, Metropolitan Area Network Protocol for
>Amateur Packet Radio, advanced in 1988 at the ARRL Networking Conference
>by Fred R. Goldstein, K1IO.  This protocol is a dirivative of the IEEE 802
>committee family of LAN networking protocols, 802.3, Ethernet, 802.4,
>Token Bus, and 802.5, Token Ring.

Well thanks for the credit, but please don't ascribe too much serious
intent to A802!  I wrote it to make a few points.  One, it's not
necessary to follow the baroque procedures of LAP-B, including its weird
coding; A802 used ASCII-mnemonic header fields so that a plain ASCII TTY
lurker could figure it out (in its async mode).  Two, AX.25 has only four
things in common with ITU/CCITT X.25: X, dot, 2 and 5.  A802 has about the
same amount in common with IEEE 802!  The name was sort of a parody.
Nonetheless my paper did attempt to describe a theoretically-useful
protocol in terms less obscure than AX.25 or X.25, whose protocol specs,
in CCITT style, are written so that only those who already understand them can
read them.

In 1993, Phil Karn, KA9Q, the creator
>of NET/NOS TCP/IP software for ham radio, proposed a FEC/ARQ hybrid
>replacement for the link-layer.  Hopefully we'll find something soon that
>can deal with noisy, busy channels and still get the data through.

Yes, wouldn't it be nice if amateurs led, rather than opposed, progress?



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Benham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom for Linux?
Date: 5 Sep 1995 11:15:10 GMT
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In article <421srs$[e-mail]>,
Steve Sampson  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Leave the Baycom for the DOS boys, forget about it for real operating
>systems.

Please be careful saying just "Baycom". I'm using their USCC card
under Linux, and it works perfectly.

"Baycom" is not just the 'modem in a 9 way D connector'.


--
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Re: Baycom for Linux?
Date: 5 Sep 1995 18:02:38 GMT
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David Kelly ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <41ske9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
: (Emanuel Borsboom) wrote:

: > [e-mail] wrote:
: > : I have one of those BayCom modems, and I was wondering if anyone has
: > : implemented support for these little guys in linux? Any directions and or
: > : sites would be appreciated.
: >
: > Yah, I'd be interested in this too.  I tried running the L2 driver under
: > dosemu and it doesn't work at all (it doesn't work under Win95 either).
: > Probably has something to do with that fact that it wants 1000 timer
: > interrupts per second (why?).

: Only 1000? Sorta hard to sample 1200 bits/sec with only 1000 samples. This
: is the core of what is wrong with Baycom-style modems, they trade CPU time
: for reduced hardware and as a result have to be much closer to the
: hardware of your system. When the OS has other ideas about CPU
: utilization, Baycom breaks.
: --
        Really ? I have tested the "pcsp" patch thats emulates a sound card
with the PC speaker in a Linux box. This soft has a much  higher interrut
rate that the baycom modem needs and it runs without much CPU penalty on a
50 MHz 486. I think that the ax25.com packet driver for DOS can be
implemented into the Linux Kernel without problems. But i know nothing
about the kernel to write the code myself.


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Aitken)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Baycom for Linux?
Date: 4 Sep 95 11:16:57 GMT
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>
>Date: 29 Aug 1995 05:06:59 GMT
>From: Steve Sampson <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Baycom for Linux?
>
>This is a stupid idea.  Even though it would be cheap in money, it is expensive
>in computer.  (i.e., it sucks the whole CPU which is fine in DOS).
>


Granted it is fairly CPU intensive so why not do it via a parallel port!!!!!

(I think some DOS based software already supports this in one way or another?)

If one can toggle non standard pins on a serial line,  why not toggel
standard lines on a parallel port,  I would think that you would decrease
the cpu time 8 fold???

Any ideas out there?

73

Mark



          Mark Aitken Amateur Radio Operator VK3JMA
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Walker )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Baycom for Windows?
Date: 7 Sep 1995 15:50:38 GMT
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Is there a version of Baycom for Windows available?


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:18 1995
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I have used a Baycom on a true blue IBM XT without a problem



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:19 1995
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Subject: Re: Baycom Software
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I can ftp baycom 1.4 or 1.5 to an anonymous site for you.
Try anonymous ftp to:
sstcx1.lanl.gov/pub/packet
and ftp the file baycom.zip to yourself.
Let me know if you have any problems.

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jay O'Brien - W6GO)
Subject: BPQ code: X1J or KISS?
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  After making G8BPQ code work to talk directly to an X1J network
node stack, it now appears to me that this may be a better way to
have the BPQ code in my PacketCluster node talk to external TNCs.

  Presently, my node communicates with two external Tiny2 TNCs which
run "polled BPQ KISS" proms.  I run the link between the computer
and the TNCs at 19200 bps.  The Tiny2's have 9600 bps daughter
boards in them.  Some disadvantages are that BPQ only updates the
KISS parameters on occasion and there is no way to put the TNCs in a
'calibrate' mode to check transmitter deviation.

  If I were to put X1J eproms in the Tiny2 TNCs, and handle them as
a "node stack" rather than polled KISS TNCs, I would have the
expanded stats and control which is available in the X1J code.
Further, I could add another computer to the "node stack", run BPQ
in it and access both the Tiny2's and the PacketCluster node for
tests and perhaps even other connects.

  It seems like the advantages to changing from polled BPQ KISS to
X1J are substantial.  Further, it would offload the node computer
somewhat, eliminating the polling and placing the AX.25 functions
completely into the TNCs.

  Am I missing something?  Is there a reason NOT to make this change
and abandon BPQ KISS completely?  Your thoughts will be much
appreciated.

  73, Jay
      [e-mail]


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (ron bardarson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: CCTSS: what is it?
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Tim Frank <[e-mail]> wrote:
>RB>From: [e-mail] (ron bardarson)
>RB>Subject: CCTSS: what is it?
>RB>Organization: TRW ASG
>
>
>RB>Anyone know about an identification technique using audio tones and
>RB>referred to as CCTSS?

>      What you are talking about is the registered trademark of
>Motorola, known as Continuous Tone Coded Squelch System( CTCSS)
>Just a way of letting only certain signals into a radio, with out the
>proper tone,a transiever set up for this will not open the squelch for
>any hearing.

Sorry, but the spelling is correct.  PL isn't used for ID.
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:22 1995
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From: Dave Johnson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: cheap & small terminal?
Date: 5 Sep 1995 11:41:54 GMT
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You could try the Psion 3a with a serial interface, I used one
with a Tiny 2 quite successfully

dave johnson
g4dpz



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:23 1995
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From: Mark A Phillips <[e-mail]>
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Subject: circuits wanted please
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 95 15:01:35 GMT
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Could one of you Stateside guys do me a BIG favour please?

I am looking for the ariticle that appeared in the 1993 ARRL handbook about
10Mbps packet on 10Ghz.

The article gave all the diagrams and stuff for the link.

Would someone be kind enough to send me a copy by snail mail or e-mail?

I can deal with all common graphics formats should someone try to e-mail me.

my address is

Mark A Phillips, G7LTT
Flat 13
29 Sussex Place
Slough
SL1 1NF
United Kingdom.

I ask as we here don't see the ARRL handbook to often.

thanx de .\\ark

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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Jacksch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Data Network on 80m
Date: 6 Sep 1995 15:00:28 GMT
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Hi!

A few friends and I wish to set up a simple, low speed message
network (digital) on 80m using straight CW transmitters.

Is there an established way of doing this?

How would I go about choosing a frequency?


Thanks,
Eric.
VE3XEJ


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond J. Sarrio)
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Subject: Re: DJ580T mod question
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In article <428df5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Gerald Phillips ) wrote:

> I am atempting to do the extended receive mod. on my DJ580T.  I know
> that you are supposed to cut the red wire, but I want to make sure
> which wire you cut.  With the unit's display facing up and the bottom
> removed you can see a "red" loop wire that is about the same size as
> the blue one, and then there is a small "orange/red" wire at the top.
> I believe I cut the larger loop which is red and not the smaller loop
> that is orange/red.  If anyone can clear this up for me I would greatly
> appreciate it.  Thanks and 73.
>
> KE4MBD - Travis

Hi Travis, I sale a book by Artsci "Radio and Tech Mods and Alignments",
(discounted to $17.95) at my web ham store at
http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html. The book shows with diagrams how to expand
the DJ-580t's TX to 130-175 MHZ&410-470 MHz, also RX for Aircraft Band and
800 MHz. The book says cut hte Blue wire for expanded TX and the RED wire
For aircraft and 800 MHz The book doesn't mention an orange wire. Hope
this helps,  73's Ray

--
Ray Sarrio Co.
http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:26 1995
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: EMDRC Balloon Launch #3, 16th Sept
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>
> EMDRC 1995 Balloon Launch No3.
> ============================
>
> At 10AM on Saturday the 16th July 1995, the Eastern and Mountain Districts
Radio
                               ==== .. As has just been pointed out to me,
this should read SEPTEMBER.. sorry for the confusion.


> Club will be releasing a Helium Balloon from the Vermont South Shopping Centre

> Car Park, Burwood Highway Vermont, Victoria, Australia.
>
> The payload will be transmitting on 144.250MHz FM at a power level of
> approximately 100 milliwatts The Balloon is expected to reach an altitude of
> approximately 20KM before bursting. The payload should be able to be heard
in
> VK2, VK3, VK5 and VK7. The EMDRC encourages as many people as possible to
record
> the transmissions on tape or (preferably) by logging the packet data to disk.
A
> program will be distributed to analyse the data and concatenate results from
> multiple sources.
>
> Telemetry will be sent in both 1200 Baud Packet and Voice identifying itself
as
> VK3ER and will send the following information:
>
> 1) Flight Time
> 2) Altitude
> 3) Internal and External Temperature
> 4) Background Radiation Count
> 5) Global Position (see note)
>
> The voice and data transmission will repeat approximately once every minute.
> Data packets will be sent as UI frames, repeated four times for data
redundancy.
>
> When the payload returns to ground level the transmission power will increase
to
> approximately 2 watts for 5 seconds every 60 seconds. This will aid in
recovery
> of the payload once it reaches the ground. There is a $100 prize for the
person
> who recovers the payload. The global Positioning data is subject to the
> availability of a GPS receiver before the launch. Although the interface has
> been included, at this stage the GPS looks doubtful. We will need to rely on
the
> expertise of the "foxhunters" to track the location of the payload and its
> recovery. We encourage anyone who feels the urge to hunt it. All you need is a

> 2m receiver, some sort of simple attenuator  (20 db steps up to 80 db
> should suffice) and a simple vehicle mounted 3-element beam.
>
> A Short presentation on the launch will be given at the next EMDRC Club
Meeting,
> Friday, 1st September at 8PM. The location of the meeting is the Willis
Room,
> City Of Whitehorse Civic Centre Maroondah Hwy, Nunawading. The meeting will
> start at 8PM Sharp. The rest of the evening will be a presentation on Internet

> by David Tilson, VK3UR.
>
> All are welcome.
>
> For more information, contact:
>       Joe Magee: ([e-mail])
>       David Williams: ([e-mail])
>       Bryan Ackerly: ([e-mail]) or ([e-mail])
>
>
>
>




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:27 1995
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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:28 1995
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From: Don Rotolo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: INFO WANTED MOT MITREK TO 9.6KB
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 95 10:31:56 PDT
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In article <42ld99$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> Looking for info for converting the Motorola MITREK to 9600 baud packet
> operation on 440 Mhz.  Any and all answers appreciated, 73 Steve
> [e-mail]

Someone posted the info on CompuServe in the Hamnet forum.  The mod is simple.

Don N2IRZ




From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (ron bardarson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie questions
Date: 4 Sep 1995 21:57:02 GMT
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In article <42betv$[e-mail]>,
Bob Nielsen  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Jim Barber) wrote:
>>Greetings, folks.
>>Linux for the first time ..
>>
>>Hardware:
>>CPU: Intel P90, (PCI) 32mb RAM
>>DISK INTERFACE : Dual-channel IDE (LBA supported)
>>DISKS: (1) 1.2gb EIDE, (1) 420mb EIDE (on which I want to install Linux)
>>CDROM: "Acer" brand 4x IDE (on second channel)
>>VIDEO: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Turbo (PCI, mach64 chipset) 2mb vidram
>>TAPE: Colorado 250 (QIC-80) on floppy controller
>>OTHER: 3.5" floppy, 2 serial, 1 parallel, SB AWE-32 sound card w/8mb
>>       NODE frame grabber
>>
>>Questions:
>>
>>(1) I know that Linux has a ATI "mach32" X-server, (x_mach32).  Will it
>>work with my mach64 card ?

Yes.  I would recommend the Accelerated X server however.

>>(2) Does anyone know if my CD will work with one of the drivers ?
>>(say Sony?)

IDE CD-ROMs are supported.

>>(3) I would like to put Linux on my 2nd drive.  Since I have NT and
>>Win95 on the 1st, is there a way to do it without having to boot from
>>a floppy ?

Yes.  I have that setup here.  LILO can handle it, follow the
instructions for booting DOS.  When you boot DOS, you get the NT boot
selection screen (as you should have now).

>>(4) Is there a really good place for Linux dummies (like myself) to
>>ask endless lists of questions like these ? :)

The USENET linux.setup group...think it's comp.os.linux.setup
--
#include <std.dsclmr>  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] ("Kevin Hodges")
Subject: Re: Looking for info on 2Mbps 10 GHz links
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Hi again guy's,
Been doing a little research and have come to the conclusion that the
best candidate for this project is a token ring card and run the link at
4Mbps the trouble is I'm not to well up on PC net working and I would
like to use it for AX25. I run BPQ and would like to interface the link
to the net work but Token ring runs 802.5 protocol and BPQ use 802.3
protocol.
Question what's the difference and how can I overcome this problem

Kevin Hodges
[e-mail]
G0CHI@GB7VRB.#38.GBR.EU


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff McLeman)
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Subject: Re: Microwave Associates: How to contact?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 14:18:27 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mnr PJ Le Riche) wrote:


>Hi!

>I am building a high-speed digital communications system and need two
>MA87127 "Gunnplexer" Gunn transceivers. These are manufactured by Microwave
>Associates, but I am unable to contact them.

>I have tried the number on the data sheets [phone] in Massachusetts,
>but nobody answers. I have also tried faxing them, but nothing gets
>through...

>If anybody has a current telephone number, fax number or EMAIL address I
>would be very grateful.

>Pierre

Microwave Associates doesn't exsist anymore.

------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff McLeman                     [e-mail]
McCaw Wireless Data, Inc.
Kirkland, Wa.                    [e-mail]

http://www.airdata.com/

"Wireless in Seattle!"
----------------------------------------------------------



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Hi!

I am building a high-speed digital communications system and need two
MA87127 "Gunnplexer" Gunn transceivers. These are manufactured by Microwave
Associates, but I am unable to contact them.

I have tried the number on the data sheets [phone] in Massachusetts,
but nobody answers. I have also tried faxing them, but nothing gets
through...

If anybody has a current telephone number, fax number or EMAIL address I
would be very grateful.

Pierre



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (binge)
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I'm a 2 meter user and have a building curiosity about packet radio,
its advantages/obstacles, and how it is used. Can someone give me an
intro to packet radio, what kind of equipment I can use, what
frequencies...? (perhaps there is a FAQ that I can read) Thank you.

Scott Lunt
KC7JHG Salt Lake City
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:34 1995
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In article <42l0cm$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
> I'm a 2 meter user and have a building curiosity about packet radio,
> its advantages/obstacles, and how it is used. Can someone give me an
> intro to packet radio, what kind of equipment I can use, what
> frequencies...? (perhaps there is a FAQ that I can read) Thank you.
>
> Scott Lunt
> KC7JHG Salt Lake City
> [e-mail]
>
Scott,
Write to the North East Digital Association (NEDA) at PO Box 563,
Manchester NH 03105, and ask how to get a copy of their 'Annual'.  It
is about 200 pages of answers, really just what you need.

Or, send them $15 for an annual membership, and you'll automatically get
an Annual in a few weeks.  Plus more, later.

73,
Don N2IRZ



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Aitken)
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Subject: Re CTCSS
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In one of the Ham-Digital digests it was written................

>Date: 28 Aug 1995 11:51:10 GMT
>From: [e-mail] (Bob Martin)
>Subject: CCTSS: what is it?
>
>ron bardarson ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: Anyone know about an identification technique using audio tones and
>: referred to as CCTSS?
>
>May be CTCSS or continuous tone coded subaudible something, aka Channel Guard
>or Private Line
>73 Bob>

Continuous Tone Coded Squelch System....... a Subaudible tone that when
detected by an system with a CTCSS Decoder will open the mute on the
receiving radio,  otherwise the mute remains closes,  rather anti-social in
a public system such as ham radio but a must for commercial users.

73

Mark



          Mark Aitken Amateur Radio Operator VK3JMA
          AX25net : vk3jma @ vk3ksd.#mel.vic.aus.oc
          Fidonet : Mark Aitken @ 3:635/502
          Internet: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Colin McGregor)
Subject: Re: Re CTCSS
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Mark Aitken ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Continuous Tone Coded Squelch System....... a Subaudible tone that when
: detected by an system with a CTCSS Decoder will open the mute on the
: receiving radio,  otherwise the mute remains closes,  rather anti-social in
: a public system such as ham radio but a must for commercial users.

I was in Chicago a few years ago and found that some of the repeaters in
the downtown used CTCSS, this in order to cope with killer levels of
intermod. As part of the digitized voice ID they were giving the callsign
and stating "using CTCSS tone <<frequency>>", ie: they were making it VERY
clear to everyone what they were doing. Given the trade-offs I can
understand what these hams were doing, and I think they were handling it
in a reasonable manor (given that almost all all HTs come with, or can
easily enough get a CTCSS generator).

In an ideal world intermod would not be a problem, but CTCSS is a
reasonable solution to intermod. Now, I would get VERY annoyed if I ran
across a repeater that did use CTCSS, and tried to keep the tone being
used a secret.

Colin McGregor - VE3ZAA


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From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jay O'Brien - W6GO)
Subject: Terminal program for BPQ code
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  I posted a query here asking for help communicating with the RS-232 side
of a NetRom (TheNet X1J) stack using BPQ code.

  Thanks to G4BKI/W4, WD4KAV, AD8I, K1LT, G8DJU, G4DBN, VE3VSM, K6PBT, and
also G8BPQ himself, I now have a satisfactory implementation of BPQ which
can hook onto the RS232 port of an X1J node and work as a full-featured
terminal.  I believe it will also work fine with a multi-node X1J stack,
but I have not tried it.

  First you load BPQ, telling it to talk "NetRom" language out a COM port
on the computer.  You also define a "TNCPORT" in BPQ for terminal
access.  Then you load BPQHTNC2 which, like BPQ, is a TSR.  It hooks the
TNCPORT and makes it available for a terminal, with commands like a TNC2
TNC.  Then, you run BPQTERM, written by G4YFE.  It happens much faster
than my description!

  I have gathered all of the programs and files needed to implement this
and I have posted it on my ftp site.  FTP to ftp.netcom.com, log in as
anonymous, cd to pub/w6/w6go and get the file go-bpqtr.zip (97761 bytes).
I have also uploaded the file to DX-BBS (502 898-8864).

  Please let me know if you find the information useful.

  73, Jay
      [e-mail]

--


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:39 1995
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Just a test post from linux.ve7job Sept 5/95 12:02 PM.

Jim
--
James O'Brien   VE7JOB

[e-mail]    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Sep 07 16:45:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim)
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Subject: USA Internet AX25 Forwarding Network
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  We still have a few sites available if anyone is interested in becoming a
forwarding partner.  We still need Australia, South America, Alaska, Hawaii,
and more.  The response to this project has been overwhelming.  So, if you
would like to get in on the  ground floor of the Network, let me know.

  The requirements are:  You must run an AX25 Packet bbs.  It must follow the
FBB standard for import and export.  You must be somewhat familiar with the
process of all this, although I will send you a how to do it package upon
request.  You must be able to ftp or send and receive email attach in BinHex
or MIME encoded format.  You must be aware if you can receive large email
attachments. Sometimes this really makes the provider mad.

  We are also looking for additional ftp sites if anyone can offer such a
thing at no charge.  Please contact me via email with your proposals.  Do NOT
post here.

  Current direct connections are:  South Africa, Saudi Arabia, Italy, Sweden,
Canada, The U.S. of course, Florida, Colorado, and more.

  Oh, I am looking for someone in Minnesota.  Minneapolis preferably.  Please
contact me if you are interested.



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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:24 1995
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From: Kim Ivey <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AEA PK-232MBX & Yaesu FT-736R
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I may not be of any help to you on the FT-736R infor, but I have a FT-990
and it has 2 different "data" ports on the rear of the radio. One is for
rtty and the other is for packet. The packet port is a 5 pin din plug. I
use this port for all the digital communications. When I press the PKT
button on the front panel, it selects the LSB as well. This port is
active at all times, it also disables the mic port. I talked to the
Yaesu reps at a local hamfest and they said this would work fine.

I may not have understood your inquery fully, however when you hook
the TNC to the FT-736R just try to put the rig in the FM mode instead of
the pkt.

Hope this info will help.

If you want to reply to me the my e-mail address is [e-mail].
I just happen to notice that i was connected on my daughters address.

Good luck!!!

Joe Ivey, kk4qi
14488 Parker Road
Athens, al.  35611



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Baycom for Linux?
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Sampson) writes:

>In article <42scaf$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Emanuel Borsboom) writes:

>>> I have tested the "pcsp" patch thats emulates a sound card
>>> with the PC speaker in a Linux box. This soft has a much  higher interrut
>>> rate that the baycom modem needs and it runs without much CPU penalty on a
>>> 50 MHz 486. I think that the ax25.com packet driver for DOS can be
>>> implemented into the Linux Kernel without problems. But i know nothing
>>> about the kernel to write the code myself.

>It doesn't matter how many MHz, or whether you have a 486.  It matters what
>Operating System you are running.  In a single task OS like DOS, you don't
>care that the CPU is at 100%.  It just doesn't matter.  But a Unix or any
>multitasker must do a context switch 100 times a second to switch between
>the tasks.  This context switch is not instantaneous.  Any modem simulation
>in software will suffer as the CPU switches between the 50 - 100 tasks that
>are running.

Fortunately it is not required to switch between tasks to do something
I/O related.  If it would be, it would be impossible to run a serial port
at 19200 bps, as you cannot reasonably switch tasks 1920 times per second.

Maybe you should more closely study the kernel mechanism behind interrupts.

>Now that you know that, you can forget about building a software modem in
>Linux.  Why waste money on dragging your OS down to the modem level,
>when you can offload the work to a serial chip.  A 16550 chip/or clone will
>take a couple microseconds to process, while a Baycom will take several
>seconds to process (while the WHOLE machine waits).  It doesn't take a
>rocket scientist to figure out which way to go.  Spend $20 more and buy a
>real TNC, or stay with DOS.

While I would not promote writing a Baycom-like driver for Linux (or for
any OS as a matter of fact), it certainly isn't impossible.
What you write about processing is in fact not correct, it is done in
interrupt handlers that unfortunately have to be called many times per
second and thus use a lot of CPU time.  This is not the same as the
whole machine waiting.

(I agree that doing it the Baycom way is bad.  IMHO, Baycom has set back
packet for several years, by introducing a "cheap solution" that only
works as 1200 bps, and thus increasing the price and complexity gap to
higher speeds.  This keeps a large number of users at 1200 bps, which is
a bad thing.)

Rob
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Edmund H. Ramm)
Subject: Re: Baycom for Linux?
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[e-mail] (Sean Smithers) writes:

>The packet assembly/disassembly is still timing sensitive even under this
>operation. The Baycom is merely demodulating the tones into a data
>stream. With no buffering, you will lose data. Now give this a thought.
>Build in a 512 to 1024 byte buffer so you don't lose any of the data
>stream, build in enough smarts so that it has FIFO operations. The
>average Baycom modem costs around $50.00. Can you build the parallel
>version with FIFO buffer for $80.00 or less? If it's over $85.00, you
>might as well go with a used TNC.

   I'd go for a TNC any time. Distributed intelligence makes sense even
where it is not as time sensitive as with packet radio. The principle behind
BayCom, IMO, is a crutch at best. What you save in bucks compared to the
cost of a TNC, you pay double afterwards in terms of nerves and frustration.
If it has to be cheap, I would get just the pcb and assemble the TNC
myself.

   73, Eddi
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:28 1995
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From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Baycom for Windows?
Date: 11 Sep 1995 18:33:54 GMT
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Since when will any BAYCOM version "run" from Windows?
Sure, it can be invoked and the screen will display, but
the timing is all messed up to the point where it will not
successfully transmit nor decode packets.  Unless some new
version has been introduced, baycom MUST be run from DOS
only, no windows in the background at all or the timing
will be completely out of whack.  Now, if I'm wrong, and
someone has figured out a way for Baycom to work from
windows, I'll be most happy to eat the flames just so long
as someone tells us how to do it successfully.  I'd LOVE to
be able to run baycom from any version of Windows.
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:29 1995
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From: "ANDREW C. WALTON" <[e-mail]>
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Yep it sure works on a 4.77 mhz machine, just make sure that there are no other
tsr's running. TFPCX as used for TPK / Graphic packet etc requires a clock speed of
8 Mhz at 4.77 it will just hang up.

73 Andy, VK3CAH



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:30 1995
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From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: baymod...HELP!!!
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I don't know why it would start locking up only recently,
but every time I've had or heard about keyboard lockups the
cure has been to stop using baycom Version 1.5 and go back
to Version 1.4, which has less onscreen help features and a
beacon bug but is much more reliable than 1.5 in my
experience.
You might also try getting another copy of baycom in case
yours is somehow corrupted.
--
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*      PO Box 445, McIntosh NM 87032          *
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:31 1995
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From: Don Rotolo <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: circuits wanted please
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 14:23:53 PDT
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In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:

>
> I am looking for the ariticle that appeared in the 1993 ARRL handbook about
> 10Mbps packet on 10Ghz.

It is only a 2mB/s link, not 10.  It also is half-duplex.
I'll mail a copy to you tomorrow.
73,
Don N2IRZ

>
> Mark A Phillips, G7LTT




From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (TESAS Engineering)
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Subject: CLOVER users, where are you??
Date: 10 Sep 1995 16:27:34 GMT
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Hi there,

I want to meet / be in contact with CLOVER users.

I also want to check out the prices, as in EUROPE they dare to ask 2300
DM for a PCI-4000 board, while I know that they are MUCH cheaper!

Regards,
Robbert / TA2IX  (PA3BKL)

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Istanbul - Turkey
email: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:34 1995
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From: Danny Higgins <[e-mail]>
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Subject: CLOVER users, where are you??
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Hi. I operate CLOVER occasionally, but plan to be more active when I
sort out my antenna problems with my neighbour!!

I got the new HAL P38 board direct from HAL for $395 and it works well. I
think the main CLOVER activity is on 14065.0 or 14066.0, usually on a 500Hz
step. I have had a few contacts and hopefully there will be more activity
now that the P38 is available at a reasonable price.
--
73s de Danny Higgins, G3XVR


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:35 1995
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From: Sean White <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Comax 670 decoder - manual sought.
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I have a Comax model 670 RTTY/CW/AMTOR decoder but no manual. This thing
has a printer port on it that I would like to connect to a spare
dot-matrix printer.

If anybody has a manual for this unit that they would be prepared to
photocopy and post to me, I'd be extremely grateful. I'll pay all costs
involved, of course.

Please send responses via e-mail as I don't often read this newsgroup.
Thanks in advance,

Sean.     ([e-mail])




From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:36 1995
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From: Richard Scalzo <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: DJ580T mod question
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Radio must be reset by turning it on while holding the FUNC key.

--
Richard Scalzo/[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Edward H. Currie )
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Subject: DSP-12
Date: 10 Sep 1995 03:59:00 GMT
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Has anyone had any experience with the DSP-12 from LL Grace?

Regards

Eddie Currie


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:37 1995
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Expert Witness
Date: 10 Sep 95 20:53:27 PST
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I'm looking for a communications expert to gather data, document and then
testify in court. I need someone to identify the frequency (bandwidth) my
thoughts are broadcasted on. The transmission must be traced back to the
repeaters and ultimatly the source.

Testamony of the transmission and what was personally heard must be included
and fees for your services will be paid at time of settlement in dirrect
proportion to the settlement. I suspect if you do your job correctly the
settlement (and your fees) will be substantial enough to travel from other
states to perform your task.

Contact Brad at [e-mail] or call [phone].


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In article <1995Sep10.205327@clstac>, <[e-mail]> writes:

> I'm looking for a communications expert to gather data, document and then
> testify in court. I need someone to identify the frequency (bandwidth) my
> thoughts are broadcasted on. The transmission must be traced back to the
> repeaters and ultimatly the source.

I don't think your thoughts are being broadcast, as the brain doesn't use RF.
Even if the EM fields coming out could be measured (EEG), I doubt anyone
could decode them at this stage in our technological development.

>
> Testamony of the transmission and what was personally heard must be included
> and fees for your services will be paid at time of settlement in dirrect
> proportion to the settlement. I suspect if you do your job correctly the
> settlement (and your fees) will be substantial enough to travel from other
> states to perform your task.

FYI: Expert witnesses are generally paid a pre-agreed price, independent of
settlement, and rarely will work on contingency.
>
> Contact Brad at [e-mail] or call [phone].
>




From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: freq+fase synchronous AFSK ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <42uh0b$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:
>In order to get the last possible bit of efficiency from the current
>1200 bd AFSK BELL202 system, i was wondering if there is any gain to
>be expected by changing the 1200/2200 Hz tones to 1200/2400 Hz, which then
>should be interlocked to the baudrate.
>
>So, send exactly 1 sine of 1200Hz, or 2 sines of 2400Hz.
>
>- Any gain in bit error rate to be expected, when the receiving side
>  uses the usual TCM3105 of AM7910 type modem ?

I think, without actually doing a Fourier analysis, that that would
increase occupied bandwidth because the transistion from 2400 back
to 1200 would always occur at a 180 degree phase reversal, IE a maximum
step discontinuity. For sure there would be a problem if the transmission
system suffered harmonic distortion because the second harmonic of
1200 Hz would now mimic the 2400 Hz tone. I'd guess that's why the
tones aren't harmonically related in the standard.

That's just a quick gut reaction, analysis should yield the real
story.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:40 1995
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Subject: freq+fase synchronous AFSK ?
Date: 10 Sep 1995 11:08:59 GMT
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In order to get the last possible bit of efficiency from the current
1200 bd AFSK BELL202 system, i was wondering if there is any gain to
be expected by changing the 1200/2200 Hz tones to 1200/2400 Hz, which then
should be interlocked to the baudrate.

So, send exactly 1 sine of 1200Hz, or 2 sines of 2400Hz.

- Any gain in bit error rate to be expected, when the receiving side
  uses the usual TCM3105 of AM7910 type modem ?

73 Joop, pe1dna

pe1dna @ pi8zaa.#nbo.nld.eu
joopv @ etprs.phys.tue.nl



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:41 1995
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From: Bob <[e-mail]>
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Subject: help ic-471 or ic-271
Date: 10 Sep 1995 15:19:55 GMT
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Does any-ne have the accessory plug pin-out for either the 271 or 471.
I just sold my ic-271 with the manual and the 471 manual doesn't have the pinout

             with thanks Bob VE7OR
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary P. Fiber)
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Subject: Re: help ic-471 or ic-271
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In article <42uvms$[e-mail]>, Bob <[e-mail]> says:
>
>Does any-ne have the accessory plug pin-out for either the 271 or 471.
>I just sold my ic-271 with the manual and the 471 manual doesn't have the pinout
>
>             with thanks Bob VE7OR
>[e-mail]
>
Bob,

Send a fax number or a mailing to ICOM at [e-mail] with this request.  You will get an
answer and the pin out.

73' gary


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Wilkins n6fri)
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Subject: Re: INFO WANTED MOT MITREK TO 9.6KB
Date: 10 Sep 1995 01:48:38 GMT
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SteveW7AZF ([e-mail]) recently wrote
        in <42ld99$[e-mail]>:

: Looking for info for converting the Motorola MITREK to 9600 baud packet
: operation on 440 Mhz.  Any and all answers appreciated, 73 Steve

Bdale Garbee has a 9600 Mitrek conversion article on his web page

http://www.gag.com/papers/ham-index.html

Bob
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (CMSuss)
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Subject: Re: JNOS
Date: 10 Sep 1995 16:01:36 -0400
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Try anyone of these FTP sites...

pc.usl.edu in pub/ham/jnos
ftp.ucsd.edu in hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming
mvangle.npt.nuwc.navy.mil in public/tcpip
hydra.carleton.ca in pub/hamradio/packet/tcpip/jnos

Also try some Land Line BBSes at

N8EMR's Ham BBS   [phone]
Chowdanet                [phone]

Good luck and 73
Chris N1UOC
Enid Ok


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I was wondering where I could get a copy of JNOS, and if it was a
shareware program, or i would have to purchase it??

73's

Jim - KD6HWC
Internet: [e-mail]
Packet: KD6HWC @ WA6RDH.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:44 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Kam Plus
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 23:43:46 -0500
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I will soon be buying a controller.  It seems the best way to learn packet
is to do packet.  Just like computers.
I will use the controller from a boat in Mexico most of the year and from a
motorhome for a few months in the States.  HF mostly in Mexico. 2M mostly in
the states.  I'd also want GPS capability.
appears the Kantronics Kam Plus would best fit my
needs.  Can anyone affirm this or give me any alternatives{
need


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary L. Johnson)
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Subject: Re: Kam Plus
Date: 11 Sep 1995 03:46:28 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
>
>I will soon be buying a controller.  It seems the best way to learn packet
>is to do packet.  Just like computers.
>I will use the controller from a boat in Mexico most of the year and from a
>motorhome for a few months in the States.  HF mostly in Mexico. 2M mostly in
>the states.  I'd also want GPS capability.
>appears the Kantronics Kam Plus would best fit my
>needs.  Can anyone affirm this or give me any alternatives{
>need

Based on your needs the KAM is about your only chose for HF operation with GPS
capability.  There is a multitude of programs that you can use with the KAM.

Be sure that the KAM has version 8.0 formware when you buy it.  This is the version
that includes that GPS support (as well as GTOR monitoring).

An applicable program can be found at the FTP or WEB sites listed in this signature.

73 Gary KF7XP




From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:46 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Kantronics agent in Bosto
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Kantronics agent in Boston area

>>...Kantronics agent in the Boston area.

Call Kantronics direct for the best information:

Kantronics
1202 E. 23rd St., Lawrence, Kansas  66046
913-842-7745
Fax  [phone]
BBS  913-842-4678
Technical Service  913-842-4476, hours: 9-12, 2-5
---
 ■ wcECHO 4.1 ≈ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details ■ Mira Loma, CA ■ 909-681-6221


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Mac BBS/Terminal Software?
Date: 11 Sep 1995 13:46:34 -0400
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Are there Mac based BBS and terminal programs?

I'm very familiar with teh various DOS packages, but the Mac world is an
unknown to me.

My company has received a request to put ina small packet BBS system in
Africa that would be Mac-based.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Eric WD3Q

--
Eric Rosenberg                          WD3Q, EI4VPS, YJ0AER, J20BY, etc.
Volunteers In Technical Assistance      voice: [phone]
1600 Wilson Blvd., Suite 500            fax:   [phone]
Arlington, VA  22209  USA               [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Walker )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: NOAA Satellite AM FAX demodulator plans wanted!
Date: 11 Sep 1995 00:28:21 GMT
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I am looking for a schematic for a AM fax demodulator for receiving
NOAA satellite pictures direct from the satellites.

I tried to build the interface described in the docs for JVFAX, but
there is too much info left out and I can't get the interface to work.

Does NOAA publish any schematics?

Does anyone have the schem. for any commercial interfaces?

Note that this is different from the simple interfaces for receiving FM
FAX on the HF bands. AM demodulators must have seperate clocking
circuits.

Thanks... Dan KE6LBX San Diego, CA




From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Packet radio technical books
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <42q16l$[e-mail]> <42s5li$[e-mail]>
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In article <42s5li$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pietro Carratu') writes:
>[e-mail] (Pietro Carratu') wrote:
>
>>I found two abstracts:
>>LYNCH, CLIFFORD - Packet radio network:architectures, protocols,
>>technologies, and applications - Pergamon Press 1987 $US77.50
>
>>ROGERS, GLYNN - The packet radio operator's manual - CQ Communications
>>1993
>
>>What's better to sell?
>> Exist better tech books ?
>ERRATA: In above-cited text, I wrote in error "to sell"; I want "to
>buy" books...
>Pietro Carratu'

The first book you reference is a professional technical book.
While the theory and historical overviews are of value, there's
little or nothing of direct application to amateur radio packet
practices as they exist today. (Though you should be able to
glean some ideas about what is wrong with current practices.)

The second book is a very simple "how-to" book, dealing with
things like how to wire a cable between a TNC and a particular
brand of radio, what common TNC commands do, etc. Some of the
information is either out of date, or just wrong, but it does
have some useful information for the beginner setting up a station.
(Packet practice is a moving target, and it's difficult to write
a book that will stay current and relevant at this level.)

The ARRL publishes 6 packet/digital specific books.

"Your Packet Companion" is somewhat of the same scope as
the Roger's book, but with a bit different slant. Again
it is aiming at a moving target, but it's a bit more
general so it may hold up a bit better. Owning both
books could be useful, keeping in mind that some of
the themes expressed in these books could be obsolete.

"Your HF Digital Companion" is, like its namesake above,
aimed at the novice digital operator, this time operating
at HF. In addition to packet, it covers RTTY, AMTOR, PACTOR,
Clover, etc as they apply to the HF operator. Again, these
are moving targets, but you have to start somewhere, and
this is a good starting point for the HF operator.

"Packet: Speed, More Speed and Applications" is a practical
hands on book about higher packet speeds than 1200 baud.
For the most part, it's a project and idea manual, though
applications like APRS are covered as well. Not a beginner
book, but good for those looking to step up from the beginning
level on VHF/UHF and wanting to get the soldering iron or
compiler hot.

"NOSIntro: TCP/IP Over Packet Radio" is a hands on guide to
the TCP/IP networking software used in amateur radio. It
focuses on one particular implementation for the IBM PC
and covers it exhaustively. This is a good way to take
your first step into TCP/IP operations.

"AX.25 Amateur Packet-Radio Link-Layer Protocol" is the
standards document for AX.25. This is not for the beginner.
Rather it is aimed at those programing and implementing the
AX.25 specification.

And finally, there's "Your Gateway to Packet Radio". This
is more dated than the other intro books listed, but still
has some good things to say, and probably deserves a place
on the bookshelf.

Let me re-emphasize that amateur packet and digital operations
in general are moving targets, works in progress. No book is
going to offer you more than a static snapshot of practices
current at the time it was written. Don't take much that you
read in any of these books as graven in stone. Amateur digital
is still in its infantcy, and is (or should be) rapidly changing
as better methods are adopted and better understanding of the
operational aspects is achieved.

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:50 1995
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From: Ben Vlug <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PaKet 6.1 editor problems/question
Date: 9 Sep 1995 22:30:37 GMT
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It simply means that you are out of memory!!!!
How much ram do you have,
I run 2 meg on my packet computer, and It will not run
normal DOS EDIT program....But it will run Win 95 Edit program, because
the new edit program does not use QBASIC.
So, either find a program that you have enough memory to run under paket
or get more ram...
Ben
AD4UR



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:51 1995
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From: jkbe@zeus (John_Bednar)
Subject: Re: PaKet 6.1 editor problems/question
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Steve Das ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm trying out PaKet 6.1 and I am having a problem using their editor.
: Steve.....N4BOS@KI5YK.#[e-mail]

This is normal when trying to use an editor that requires lots of
free memory. I switched to an editor that requires less free memory and
things work just fine.

John, WB3ESS



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:52 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Remote Control of Scale Models
Date: 10 Sep 1995 17:13:58 GMT
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I was wondering if many amateurs use 6 meters for control of model planes,
etc.  The ARRL handbook provides minimal infromation, leading me to believe
that it is not really common.  My basic questions follow:

- Are there any commericially manufactured transmitters that are for amateur
   use (out of the box), or are all units home-brewed or modified?

- Have the new channel assignments, mentioned in the handbook kicked in yet,
   or is it based on local preference?

- Is there a newsgroup or book which can provide information on common
   practices, modulation schemes, and other conventions?

Thanks
Brian, N7MNL


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:53 1995
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From: F. Kevin Feeney <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Remote Control of Scale Models
Date: 11 Sep 1995 14:59:47 GMT
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In article <42v6cm$[e-mail]> , [e-mail]
writes:
>I was wondering if many amateurs use 6 meters for control of model
planes,
>etc.  The ARRL handbook provides minimal infromation, leading me to
believe
>that it is not really common.  My basic questions follow:

I've found that most hams in the area who are also RC enthusiasts have at
least some 6 meter gear. It's very nice to go to a group fly and be the
only one on your band. You get to fly a lot more. :-)

Most people use commercial equipment, so there isn't much point in the
handbook covering it in gruesome detail. But they do have some reasonable
info on it. I found it helpful.
>
>- Are there any commericially manufactured transmitters that are for
amateur
>   use (out of the box), or are all units home-brewed or modified?

They are commercially available from most of the RC radio suppliers. Mine
are from Futaba and JR.
>
>- Have the new channel assignments, mentioned in the handbook kicked in
yet,
>   or is it based on local preference?

The manufacturers seem to be offering the new channel sets these days -
channels 01 to 09 which run in the 50.800 to 50.980 range. Used radios
may be channeled for the older 53 mhz frequencies above the repeater
allocation (one of mine is)

>
>- Is there a newsgroup or book which can provide information on common
>   practices, modulation schemes, and other conventions?

I haven't seen one, but you can show up on rec.models.rc.misc or any of
the other rc models groups and get lots of information there. The current
gear mostly uses FM modulation with a 50 Hz (20ms) frame rate of up to 8
channels.  1.5 ms pulses are normally the center of channel, with 1ms and
2 ms being the extreme rotations.

>
>Thanks
>Brian, N7MNL

Hope this was helpful.

Kevin ,WB2EMS


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:54 1995
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From: Tim Kearsley <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Terminal mode software
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Hi,
I have a piece of software which is talking to a TNC in terminal mode (NOT
host mode).  Unless I am missing something very simple, I can't see a way
of the software knowing, when a connection occurs, whether the connection
was initiated by the local TNC or a remote TNC.  All that comes back from
the TNC is the "*** CONNECTED to ....." message.  Is there any way of
directly determining which end of the connection initiated it?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim Kearsley.  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Cedric MAION)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: URGENT HELP PSE : transceiver for packet and sat ?
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:25:23 GMT
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I am looking for a model of tranceiver that could allow me :

-  to use in a first time terrestrial packet network (AFSK)
-  to be a start point for a later satellite station

WHAT TYPE OF TRANSCEIVER DO YOU ADVISE ME ?

I am about to buy a second hand IC 245E, have you info about it ? (I only know
that it is an old all-mode 2m TX, with 10W power). Would it be a good choice ?

(As a student and new OM, I am looking for a not too expensive solution.)

PLEASE HELP !!!

TNX ...


--
Cedric MAION
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:56 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: URGENT HELP PSE : transceiver for packet and sat ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Cedric MAION) writes:
>I am looking for a model of tranceiver that could allow me :
>
>-  to use in a first time terrestrial packet network (AFSK)
>-  to be a start point for a later satellite station
>
>WHAT TYPE OF TRANSCEIVER DO YOU ADVISE ME ?
>
>I am about to buy a second hand IC 245E, have you info about it ? (I only know
>that it is an old all-mode 2m TX, with 10W power). Would it be a good choice ?
>
>(As a student and new OM, I am looking for a not too expensive solution.)
>
>PLEASE HELP !!!

The IC-245 will probably do fine for terrestrial work, so I'll limit
my comments to the satellite side.

I don't recall the SSB tuning step of the IC245, but you want to be able
to step in 10 Hz increments for doppler tracking. 100 Hz steps will
sort of work, but 10 Hz is much better. I seem to remember that the
IC245 had some sort of funky dual concentric knob tuning that probably
couldn't be easily modified to take the up/down signals from a satellite
modem for automatic doppler tracking so you'll probably have to track by
hand.

Note, you need small tuning steps in FM mode too, for the birds that
transmit that way, IE Dove, but the slop there is greater and you might
get away with 5 kHz steps, though 1 kHz or smaller steps would still be
better.

As I also recall, the IC245 has a lousy noise figure, but a preamp can
fix that. It also has only broad selectivity, and I don't know if you
can fix that with a filter swap. You need to be able to use a 500 Hz
filter on receive. Otherwise the SNR can be degraded too much for good
reception. An outboard audio DSP might suffice.

The IC-245 can probably be made to work after a fashion, but you'd be much
better off with a better rig. Even an IC-211 can be modified to work fairly
well, and those show up at hamfests (here in the US) for as little as $125
from time to time. I used one on Oscar 10 for a while. I installed a Mutek
front end and added an external audio filter (not DSP in those days). I
made RTTY contacts through Oscar 10 with that, but it was sort of lame.
I ended up cascading the IF output of the IC-211 (it has a panadaptor
port) into an IC-745 and used its filters and tuning. Essentially, I
was using the IC-211 as a tunable receiving down converter. That worked
pretty well.

Ideal radios would be the IC-275 or a FT736R, but they're going to be
serious money, even used. You might find a better deal on the older
IC-251 or IC-271. They aren't great, but they'll do. I'd avoid the
Kenwoods, unless you absolutely can't find anything else.

I'm assuming you don't have a HF rig. If you do, however, a transverter
could be a good solution instead. SSB Electronics makes lovely units,
but an old Microwave Modules unit can be made to work for a lot less money.
Or you could build your own, either from a kit or from scratch. The RSGB
VHF DX Book has some good designs.

I just had a thought. Rick Campbell designed a SSB exciter kit that
I believe could be modified for direct I and Q modulation. That might
make a wonderful platform for an advanced modem. You could feed it to
any of his no-tune transverter kits. I and Q could come from/go to a
DSP evaluation board, like the Analog Devices EZ-kit. Hmmm. I've got
to look into that. RF modems are better than trying to stuff digits
through a voice grade radio.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Wickwire)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Want C-code to count char. errors in rcvd file
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 01:00:35 +0200
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Would like to find some C-code that compares a "received" ASCII
text file (using non-ARQ modes like AMTOR FEC, RTTY, etc.) with a stored
"correct" one and comes up with a sensible count of the number of
character "errors" in the received file.

"Error" needs to be defined precisely of course; I'll leave that up in
the air for now.  Because the received file may not have the same number
of characters as the correct file, this seems to be a non-trivial task
for a computer (although easy for a human), but surely one that has
been solved somewhere.  You can E-mail me at [e-mail].  Thanks.


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:58 1995
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From: anyone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: wanted pmr rig for packet
Date: 10 Sep 1995 07:52:40 GMT
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wanted pmr rig suitable for packet
please e-mail me on [e-mail]
someone must have one of these for sale !


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 12 11:02:59 1995
Path: grape.epix.net!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Vic Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WEFAX thru SB16 with ASP?
Date: 11 Sep 1995 15:36:42 GMT
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In article <42p0ff$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Patrik Iver KTF87) says:
>
>There are boxes that go between the communications reciever and the
>serial port for converting WEFAX and other stuff to legible form.
>Now, in a sound-card group someone mentioned that a SoundBlaster with
>ASP (a signal processor) can do the same thing. I was wondering if anyone
>knows of PD or shareware or other cheap/free software to achieve this.
>If this is FAQ I apologise, likewise if this is the wrong group for this.

You can build a great little 1-chip interface, connected to and powered by
your computer RS-232 port, that will allow SSTV and 64-level gray scale
WEFAX reception. The circuit is in the documentation file in the freeware
(yes, FREE not even SHAREware!) program JVFax70 program. That is a really
great piece of software written by a German ham for the ham community. It
even allows you the transmit SSTV and FAX images through the same interface!
Look around, you can probably find it in a local BBS.

73 es CUL,   =Vic=   WA4THR


From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:39 1995
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From: Lawrence Koga <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: APRS?
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:02:18 -1000
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Thanks for the APRS information on TAPR.ORG

Thank you, Lawrence


From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
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Subject: California pactor ops
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Does anyone here have an interest in using 80 meters for pactor
operations??
Would be neat if there may be a group of us to get together on an
agreed-upon frequency for chat/ragchew purposes using FEC and Pactor ..

Patricia Gibbons - wa6ube
[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"


From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Turner)
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In article <43g7o0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (WA6UBE) wrote:
>Does anyone here have an interest in using 80 meters for pactor
>operations??
>Would be neat if there may be a group of us to get together on an
>agreed-upon frequency for chat/ragchew purposes using FEC and Pactor ..
>
>Patricia Gibbons - wa6ube
>[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"
------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be interested, but I wonder if there is an easier way to ragchew on Pactor
with a KAM?  The Hostmaster II+ software is pretty klunky in that respect.  If
you're in the listening mode you can't transmit and if you're in the transmit
mode you can't listen.  Anybody have a solution??


73, Bill W7LZP
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Keith Sproul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: GPS and Mac
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:55:10 -0400
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In article <mmusick-1409951559160001@198.102.74.50>, [e-mail]
(Mike Musick) wrote:

> > Does anyone know of a program to link a Garman GPS rcvr to a Macintosh?
> > It's a simple serial connection, but I'm interested in any software that
> > takes the GPS data and converts it into tabbed coordinate pairs.
> > reply directly via email to [e-mail]
>
> Check the TAPR FTP site and this directory:
>
>   ftp://ftp.tapr.org/tapr/SIG/aprssig/upload/
>
> Look for "MacGPS". It is written to interface with a Garmin GPS45, and
> supports display, logging, uploading, and downloading of coordinates,
> waypoints, and routes. Actually, it's pretty nifty.
>
> What it doesn't do is work with a map. Oh, well, can't have everything. ;-)
>   ...mm
>
> =============================================================

Also, in the same ftp site is MacAPRS which takes GPS input and plots it
on a map. This program is really aimed at the Ham, but is fully useable by
the non-ham for doing GPS tracking.  It can also take recorded GPS data
(NMEA data) and replay it from a file.

Keith Sproul, Author of MacAPRS
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From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Karl Medcalf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Max TOR throughput?
Date: 14 Sep 1995 00:11:09 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>TOR-users: Anybody know a good way of estimating the maximum throughput,
in
>characters/sec, say, of AMTOR, PacTOR and GTOR in a perfect channel?  For
>GTOR at a 300 bps channel rate, with no Huffman coding, I assume it's
something
>less than 300/8 = 37.5 char./sec.  With Huffman, somewhere above that.
>You can E-mail me if you want at [e-mail].  Thanks.

The easiest way to figure this (ignoring huffman compression and/or
run-length encoding) is by using the cycle time for each mode and the
number of data characters possible in each cycle. For instance...

One AMTOR cycle is 0.45 seconds long, and the sending station will send 3
characters in each cycle. Therefore maximum throughput is 3/0.45
characters per second (6.66 cps). Likewise, G-TOR, at 300 baud, can fit 69
characters in a single cycle, with a cycle time of 2.4 seconds, so it's
maximum (again ignoring compression) would be 69/2.4 characters per
second (28.75 cps) Pactor, at 200 baud, would be 20 characters per cycle
with a 1.25 second cycle for 16 cps.

Obviously on a perfect channel, those modes that use compression could see
significant increases over these numbers.

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From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: NOAA Satellite AM FAX demodulator plans wanted!
Date: 14 Sep 1995 13:38:10 GMT
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Dan Walker ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am looking for a schematic for a AM fax demodulator for receiving
: NOAA satellite pictures direct from the satellites.

: I tried to build the interface described in the docs for JVFAX, but
: there is too much info left out and I can't get the interface to work.

: Does NOAA publish any schematics?

: Does anyone have the schem. for any commercial interfaces?

I've build my own design to demodulate the WEFAX audio signal of the
eupopean Meteosat, that in fact is also an AM modulated carrier of 2400 Hz.
I don't have the schematics in a readable format, but they are simple. First
the AM signal is rectified in a full-wave rectifier and then filtered with a
low-pass Bessel filter. This filter is 6th order with a cutoff frecuency of
~1300Hz. This circuit uses 4 OP amp, 2 germanium diodes and a small lot of
resistors and capacitors (all the capacitors in the filter are equal). The
rest of the work is done with a PC A/D card and some software.

: Note that this is different from the simple interfaces for receiving FM
: FAX on the HF bands. AM demodulators must have seperate clocking
: circuits.

While the video signal is demodulated the sample rate don't worry, but keep
in mind the Shannon Law. Sample rate must be lower that the carrier
frecuency.

: Thanks... Dan KE6LBX San Diego, CA

Jesus EB1DIX
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From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:46 1995
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From: LWard <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Packet UUencode??
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Hello-

Has anyone ever tried sending UUencoded GIFs over packet?  When people send binary GIFS
it's near impossible to capture them.  But since, I think, all UUcodes are made up of readable
characters, wouldn't it be possible???

L Ward
KO4IQ




From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Coolidge)
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Subject: Re: Packet UUencode??
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LWard <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hello-

>Has anyone ever tried sending UUencoded GIFs over packet?  When people send binary GIFS
>it's near impossible to capture them.  But since, I think, all UUcodes are made up of readable
>characters, wouldn't it be possible???

>L Ward
>KO4IQ

YES.  WB6TIG @ K6VE has posted earthquake graphics for the past 3
years using UUEncode.






From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Allan Butler)
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Subject: Radio for 9600 baud@UHF
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                Hello Everyone,

        I was wondering if there are any suggestions out there for which
radios are easiest to convert to UHF 9600 baud packet radios.  There are
several people in the area that would like to get on the air and it has
been a while since anyone purchased any commercial radios that got
converted to this mode.  Of course we are looking at inexpensive and
reliable radios.

        Thanks for any information that would be available out there.

--
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                                                [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Wittich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC with CWID needed - which is cheapest?
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Hi everybody.  I need a TNC that can do automatic CW identification.
What is the cheapest one with this feature?  I have checked the MFJ
1270 and 1274, and they do not have the feature.  The KPC 9612 does,
but it a about $200 of so.

I plan to use it for some low power experimenting on a simplex
frequency.  I will NOT be doing CW IDs on packet freqs.

Thanks.

73, Jeff - AC4ZO
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From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (GHorine)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TNC with CWID needed - which is cheapest?
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In article <43c2sh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Jeffrey Wittich) writes:

>Subject:       TNC with CWID needed - which is cheapest?
>From:  [e-mail] (Jeffrey Wittich)
>Date:  15 Sep 1995 14:33:53 GMT
>
>Hi everybody.  I need a TNC that can do automatic CW identification.
>What is the cheapest one with this feature?  I have checked the MFJ
>1270 and 1274, and they do not have the feature.  The KPC 9612 does,
>but it a about $200 of so.
>
>I plan to use it for some low power experimenting on a simplex
>frequency.  I will NOT be doing CW IDs on packet freqs.
>
>Thanks.
>
>73, Jeff - AC4ZO
>--
>***********************************************************************
>[e-mail]   *** CW ops let their fingers do the talking.
>AC4ZO           *** BNR claims they know nothing of my employment here.
>***********************************************************************
>
>

The Kantronics KPC-3 has a CW ID feature and goes for about $119 U.S.

Greg Horine - N9PBD
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:51 1995
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From: Jim Durham <durham>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: W2XO BBS Web Page
Date: 15 Sep 1995 04:24:59 GMT
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Hi,
I've been working on a web page for the W2XO packet bbs and
internet gateway.

It is in the beginning stages, but you can find out a little
about what's going on at W2XO, plus even read the packet
mail of the day.

The URL is www.w2xo.pgh.pa.us

Let me know what you think...

73
-Jim , W2XO



From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:52 1995
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From: Roger Koss <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WEFAX thru SB16 with ASP?
Date: 14 Sep 1995 17:47:34 GMT
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Wxman is a program written by Paul Hitchcock that does just this.
I am very pleased with this program, and it is well worth the
registration fee (I think $20 or $25). Contact Paul at [e-mail]
and ask for the latest version (2.2 until you register, then upgraded to
3.0).



From [e-mail] Sun Sep 17 11:56:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brad Killebrew)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Where can I find a copy of TNOS for Linux?
Date: 14 Sep 1995 03:31:29 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
: I need a copy of TNOS for Linux, anyone know where I can get a copy?

The main ftp site for TNOS is ftp.lantz.com.  You can also
read all about it at http://www.lantz.com



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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:43:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jay J. Chichon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ANSI FOR PACTOR?
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Does anyone know where I can find information on how
to create ANSI Graphics to send via Pactor?
E-Mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:43:48 1995
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From: Geoff Mann <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Anyone using HAMCOm for CW? For RTTY? For AMTOR??
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Geoff Mann
[e-mail]

Mark

I am using the Hamcom software/converter combination for receive only.

Works OK on good CW, and OK on RTTY and AMTOR.

CW conversion is patchy and depends on the quality (i.e. even-ness) of
the sender.

Hope that helps

Geoff Mann



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:43:49 1995
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Subject: Re: California pactor ops
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The answer to your question is KaGold available from Interflex at
P.O. Box 6418, Laguna Niguel, CA 92607-6418, 714-496-6639, or via
email [e-mail].  I have been using their PkGold (for
the AEA) for several years and have found no better software. The
product support is outstanding too!

73/George

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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:43:50 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary L. Johnson)
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Subject: Re: California pactor ops
Date: 18 Sep 1995 14:31:42 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Turner) says:
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>I'd be interested, but I wonder if there is an easier way to ragchew on Pactor
>with a KAM?  The Hostmaster II+ software is pretty klunky in that respect.  If
>you're in the listening mode you can't transmit and if you're in the transmit
>mode you can't listen.  Anybody have a solution??
>
>
>73, Bill W7LZP
>[e-mail]

You might try XPKAM, it is available at...

ftp.indirect.com
pub/www/gjohnson/xpkm158a.zip

or via the WEB at..

http://www.indirect.com/user/gjohnson/

73 Gary KF7XP
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:43:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Lehnen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: fbb message address
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Hi,
Can anyone tell me the address to send to to get the FBB messages comming to my mailbox??

Thanks, Dan
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:43:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Re: Homemade TNC schematics avaiable
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Thank you, Jesus!  I just downloaded the stuff, and will start
trying to build my own TNC.

73,
Peter

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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:43:59 1995
From: [e-mail] (Noel DANJOU)
Subject: METEOSAT Cleanup utility for JVFAX 7.0
Date: 17 Sep 95 10:18:22 -0700
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Here's a little utility to remove bad things from .sch files
It is free. The only thing I'd like is a little feedback from
you if you use it or have troubles using it.

Noel
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section 1 of uuencode 5.21 of file cleanup.zip    by R.E.M.

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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: NVIS Moniker -"Vertical Skywave Girl"
Date: 18 Sep 1995 00:21:53 -0400
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>Subj:  Re: California pactor ops
>Date:  95-09-17 21:27:18 EDT
>From:  [e-mail] (Bill Turner)
>To:    [e-mail]

>Sounds good to me.  Have you gotten any other responses?  I suppose it'll
>take a day or two to filter through the newsgroup.

>And how did you come to be the... what was it -- "Vertical Skywave
Girl"??

>73, Bill  W7LZP
>[e-mail]


In a message dated 95-09-17 21:27:18 EDT, you write:

>
>And how did you come to be the... what was it -- "Vertical Skywave
Girl"??
>
>

Early in 1988, I started doing experiments with what was called "Near
Vertical Incedence Skywave" or "NVIS" for short...

NVIS - is the use of HF radio antennas that are placed parallel to the
ground
and as close to the ground as possible to limit ground-wave generation.
NVIS
utilizes single-hop F-Layer propagation through directing the RF from your
station in a straight-up path. Proper choice of Frequency can be critical
-
it is important to operate near what is called "Critical Frequency" or the
highest radio frequency that will still refract back down from the zenith.
If
you operate to low below critical frequency, then
the results are excessive D-Layer absorbtion of your signal and excessive
multi-path
distortion which can be a problem for HF Data modes..

During the vietnam war in the late 1960's, the army tried different
techniques to attempt to use hf radio more effectively for operations that
were larger in scope than what typical ground-wave could be used for. The
ranges needed were from 0 to 400 miles typically and were in support of
covert ops in Laos and Thailand. It was found the vehicles using HF radios
would have significantly better results if their mobile antennas were
parallel to the ground instead of vertical. To communicate with base
stations, base station antennas also needed to be horizontally polarized
through the use of the standard horizontal dipole or variations of same.
Limiting ground-wave generation also reduced the enemy unit's capability
for
direction-findinig on the station as the received signal was from almost
directly overhead.

Lt. Col David Fiedler of the National Guard of New Jersey published the
results of a series of studies in issues of "Army Communicator" magazine.
Lt.
Col Fiedler found great resistance from the U.S. Army in adopting the NVIS
concept even though initial work done during the Vietnam war both by army
units and by Stanford Research Institute (SRI) showed the NVIS was a valid
HF
radio concept. I publicised the NVIS work of Lt. Col Fiedler at various
Amateur Radio club meetings and conventions in norther california during
the
time frame of 1990-1993  ..

The Moniker "Vertical Skywave Girl" was given to me by none other than
Gordon
West, WB6NOA after he wrote some articles regarding my work..

for further info on NVIS >> see the January 1995 issue of QST Magazine by
Ed
Farmer
who did an excellent write up on the subject..

[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:01 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Wade Cotton )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet UUencode not recommended
Date: 18 Sep 1995 05:51:28 GMT
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In <43ejfm$[e-mail]> LWard <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>Hello-
>
>Has anyone ever tried sending UUencoded GIFs over packet?  When people
send binary GIFS
>it's near impossible to capture them.  But since, I think, all UUcodes
are made up of readable
>characters, wouldn't it be possible???
>
>L Ward
>KO4IQ

Howdy:

    UUENCODE has major flaws when it comes to error correction.
It doesn't have any! 7PLUS was developed to correct the most common
errors encountered when messages are sent over the packet network.
Contrary to popular belief packet is not error free. The errors usually
occur between the tnc and computer when a overrun occurs and changes
one or more bits. 7plus can correct this without requesting a
correction message from the originating sender. If a whole byte or more
is trashed, 7plus will create a correction that you can send back to
the originator of that message. His 7plus will take that request and
reply with the minimal data nessesary to fill the "hole". This can all
be automated with several servers that are available. That's why you
see many more 7plus bulletins than any other type carrying binary
files over packet.

73,
Wade N5IST@N5IST.N5VGC.#DFW.TX.USA.NOAM




From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (David Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet UUencode??
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 13:37:17 -0500
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In article <43ejfm$[e-mail]>, LWard <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Hello-
>
> Has anyone ever tried sending UUencoded GIFs over packet?  When people
send binary GIFS
> it's near impossible to capture them.  But since, I think, all UUcodes
are made up of readable
> characters, wouldn't it be possible???

Yes. UUEncode works fine as long as the recipient knows what uudecode is.
Why did you ask? Why not "just try it"?

The Mac-specific BinHex format also works well. Yet the serious binary PC
packet emailers seem to have standardized on "7plus" as it makes things
easier to split in sections small enough to email. Easy enough that some
PBBS's are swamped with 7plus encoded messages.

73,
--
David Kelly N4HHE,   [e-mail],    [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lill)
Subject: Re: Packet UUencode??
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: >Has anyone ever tried sending UUencoded GIFs over packet?  When people send binary GIFS
: >it's near impossible to capture them.  But since, I think, all UUcodes are made up of readable
: >characters, wouldn't it be possible???


Before you do that, get a tool like Graphics Workshop and either reduce the
resolution/color range if possible to make a smaller GIF *or* or convert it
to JPEG format. GIF's are big and UU'd GIF's are even bigger. Could easily
choke a packet network.




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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Martin de Radder)
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On 16 Sep 1995 13:29:26 GMT
LWard <[e-mail]> wrote about
Packet UUencode??

->Hello-
->
->Has anyone ever tried sending UUencoded GIFs over packet?  When people send binary GIFS
->it's near impossible to capture them.  But since, I think, all UUcodes are made up of readable
->characters, wouldn't it be possible???
->
->
UUcoding is used to encode a binary file to a 7bit ASCII character file.
you can send the ascii file via SMTP or even ordinary AX25 packet as a
text file. Binary files are .COM, .EXE, .ZIP .GIF etc.

The original Filename is in the UUencoded file, and you can add an ASCII
prefix msg en ASCII suffix msg. The UUDECODER will automatically find
the start and finish of the UUCODED part and will decode it back to the
original file.ext.

7PLUS works similarly but has a more clever ENCODING scheme, so that
files are smaller. Secondly it has a better error recovery scheme.

73 de,



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From: [e-mail] (William Lagerberg)
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Subject: PK88
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Is there somebody out there who now's if it is possible to speed up a PK88
from 1200 to higher speed's.

Email [e-mail]
Call pe1bsb from Holland


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:06 1995
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We use the TEKK data radio's.

Their phone number is: (816)-746-1098. I believe you must purchase
through a distributor now.

John



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From: [e-mail] (erwin cremers)
Subject: Sound card & decoding radio signals (CW/RTTY ect.)
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Is ther anyone who knows if there is software to use a Sound card with a audio
input for decoding these modes.

If it is available please tell me were i can find it.

Erwin Cremers
PE1MGR
Dutch Radio Amateur


From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Grenness)
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My interest is the digital protocols on H.F, as an SWLer, using homebrew
hardware and software and I continue to struggle with PC RFI. My receiver,
valve, is well shielded, BNC antenna input.

Sofar I'm using a balanced feedline and balun from a dipole, I've disconnected
house earths and am using a couple of meters of copper bus-bar driven into damp
ground as an RF earth, I've sprayed around the inside of my VGA monitor with
electro-conductive (nickel-based) paint, I've got aluminium foil inside the
monitor case, I've tried a Monochrome monitor, I've put toroids on PC signal
leads, I've installed an FCC approved PC power supply, all audio and signal
leads are in coax, I've ...

While the monitor case paint had the most significant effect, my PC RFI
problems persist with me not be able to do any digital SWLing above about
10MHz. At lower freqs, signal levels have to be pretty good to be able to
demodulate/decode. Any more suggestions please ??

Paul G.




From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:09 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Howard Goldstein)
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Subject: Re: TNC with CWID needed - which is cheapest?
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[e-mail] (Jeffrey Wittich) wrote:

> Hi everybody.  I need a TNC that can do automatic CW identification.
> What is the cheapest one with this feature?  I have checked the MFJ
> 1270 and 1274, and they do not have the feature.  The KPC 9612 does,
> but it a about $200 of so.

The latest (1.1.9) TAPR TNC-2 release supports an FSK CWID, as do recent
1270s and 1274s.

--
Howard Goldstein, N2WX   <[e-mail]>   http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx/



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:10 1995
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From: "Charles W. Doolittle-Scovish" <doolic>
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Subject: Re: TNC with CWID needed - which is cheapest?
Date: 18 Sep 1995 18:53:39 GMT
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>The latest (1.1.9) TAPR TNC-2 release supports an FSK CWID, as do recent
>1270s and 1274s.

The KPC-3 does as well.

--
Charles W. Doolittle-Scovish
[e-mail]
N1SPX



From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:11 1995
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In <435a6v$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (gay) writes:

>Try FTP.UCSD.NET

ftp.ucsd.edu <-actually

>In /hamradio/packet/tcp you will find the latest packet programs including

/hamradio/packet/tcpip <- actually

thanks for this info!

-------------------------------------------------
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Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
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From [e-mail] Tue Sep 19 18:44:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Grzegorz Mielcarek)
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Subject: Re: WINPKT Ethernet driver Where.
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[e-mail] (Charles Morrison) wrote:

Where can I get this driver: ethrax25

-Gregory




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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:02 1995
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From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
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Two things I'd check:
(1)  On all my PC's when the radio is turned on without the
Baycom software up and running, on the CORRECT serial port,
the radio is keyed up transmitting a dead carrier.

(2)  I am not familiar with the ICOM T1 but the 2AT etc
series uses a 2-wire microphone configuration that has both
TX audio and PTT on the same center conductor;  it requires
a resistor/capacitor splitter combination to separate the 2
signals for the modem to work with the radio:

PTT from Baycom modem-----------||-----|
                               .1 Uf   |
                                       0------ Microphone
                                       |       Center cond.
                              10K res. |
TX Audio from Baycom modem----/\/\/\---|

Modem Ground----------------------------------Radio Ground

Maybe this hookup will help.
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:03 1995
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From: Don Rotolo <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: BPQ node config help
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In article <19950920124814913.AAB158@[194.51.176.241]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>  ***********************  BPQ NODE CONFIGURATION HELP **********************
>
>
> We want to make a BPQ node with these ports:
>         -> Cluster software in the same computer
>         -> KISS TNC 2 only for access the cluster
>         -> TNC 2 with Thenet  (frecuency 1)
>         -> TNC 2 with Thenet  (frecuency 2)
>
> The computer where BPQ and the cluster software is running has standard COM1
> & COM2
> and a PC-COM card wich allows COM3 to COM6 with diferent adresses and the
> same IRQ (IRQ 5)
>
> Could you send me an example of the bpqcfg.txt configuration file ?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>         Inigo. EB2DTP.
                           ########################################

Your best bet would be to put the two TheNET TNCs on a diode matrix, along with
a third one (running TheNET also) just for the cluster.  Connect the cluster
TNC to a normal, regular TNC (via wires to the modem disconnect header) that is
connected to the computer, and forget BPQ.

Alternatively, again put the two TheNET TNCs on a diode matrix, and configure
BPQ to speak directly to the diode matrix (it does this easily), thus saving a
TNC.  Be careful, though, if BPQ crashes, or the computer is off,no data will
flow on the matrix.

If you need more details on how to do this, write to me at
[e-mail]

73.
Don N2IRZ



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:04 1995
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From: jon <g4tsn.demon.co.uk>
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Hello ,
     Wonder if anyone can help with circuit info on the Texas TMS320C26
and the TLC32040 to use with some of the software avalible.

                        Thanks 73, Jon G4TSN>



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From: [e-mail] (Mark Fraser)
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The best bet, if you can still find them, is the DSK - Designers'
Starter Kit, which was about a hundred or less USD.  Has the onboard
stuff you need, much of the work the folks have been doing has been
ported to it, and it's a breeze to get up and running.

Johan Forrrer at Oregon State has done some of this, and it
worked just fine in my DSK.

By the way, I also got a package by Otkay Alkin, PC-DSP [there
is a later version] that lets a novice like me create somehting
that I can visualize [a filter?], and turn it into coefficients
for dsp [the TI ones] that will also run on the dsk.  Great.

It cost me about 40 USD.

Anyone update this ifo?
/mark

jon (g4tsn.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Hello ,
:      Wonder if anyone can help with circuit info on the Texas TMS320C26
: and the TLC32040 to use with some of the software avalible.
:
:                         Thanks 73, Jon G4TSN>



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:06 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
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Subject: Re: DSP
Date: 22 Sep 1995 00:33:34 GMT
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>>>Hello ,
     Wonder if anyone can help with circuit info on the Texas
TMS320C26 and the TLC32040 to use with some of the software
avalible.


check
http://www.cera.com/dsp.htm
http://www.ti.com/sc/docs/dsps/dsphome.htm/

TI Sells kits and circut boards for these chips to put them to
use - about US$100.  They are good chips.

TAPR puts out a great kit for the 320C25 that I use.

Also www.qrz.com has source file for the 320C26 I believe for
vaious applications.

Good luck and let us know what you turn out.


--
Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]
TAPR 5412  ARRL



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
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Subject: Re: DSP
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Sure would love to know where to get this stuff!

Thanks.

>The best bet, if you can still find them, is the DSK -
Designers'Starter Kit, which was about a hundred or less USD.
Has the onboard stuff you need, much of the work the folks have
been doing has been ported to it, and it's a breeze to get up and
running.
>
>Johan Forrrer at Oregon State has done some of this, and it
>worked just fine in my DSK.
>
>By the way, I also got a package by Otkay Alkin, PC-DSP [there
>is a later version] that lets a novice like me create somehting
>that I can visualize [a filter?], and turn it into coefficients
>for dsp [the TI ones] that will also run on the dsk.  Great.
>It cost me about 40 USD.
--
Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]
TAPR 5412  ARRL



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: DSP
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <43spg3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark Fraser) writes:
>The best bet, if you can still find them, is the DSK - Designers'
>Starter Kit, which was about a hundred or less USD.  Has the onboard
>stuff you need, much of the work the folks have been doing has been
>ported to it, and it's a breeze to get up and running.

The DSKs are great, and if you aren't wedded to the TMS series,
Analog Devices has a great EZkit for their ADSP-2100 series that
I've been using. The Cardinal sound card also uses the Analog
Devices chip, and there are development tools available for it.
Back with TMS chips, I found an IBM brand sound card (actually
made by Tecmar), IBM P/N 92F3378, in the surplus channel that
uses the TMS320C25 at a 40 MHz clock. There is shared memory
with the host, and a bidirectional interrupt structure, making
a tightly coupled DSP system simple to implement.

>Johan Forrrer at Oregon State has done some of this, and it
>worked just fine in my DSK.
>
>By the way, I also got a package by Otkay Alkin, PC-DSP [there
>is a later version] that lets a novice like me create somehting
>that I can visualize [a filter?], and turn it into coefficients
>for dsp [the TI ones] that will also run on the dsk.  Great.

Ooooh, ordering info please.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:09 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Paul J. Piercey (VO1HE))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FBB 5.15c Gateway.
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I am running a 4 port FBB BBS with the TNCs in host-mode (for now) and would
like to know if there is a way to run the gateway between 2 of the ports and not
allowing access to the other two. The reason being that the ports I want to
exclude are forwarding ports. There are two user freqs that I would like to connect
but when I start the gateway, they all come up active.

This is a temporary measure as I plan on running BPQ as soon as I get enough
memory (not me, the computer :) ).

Also, I would like to know if the gateway permissions can be user specific, such
as allowing the sysop access to all ports and the typical users access to the
user ports only. Please EMail any info that could help directly to me as I may
miss it through this group. Thanks.


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Meredith)
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Subject: fbb message address
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DL>Hi,
DL>Can anyone tell me the address to send to to get the FBB messages comming to
my
DL> mailbox??

DL>Thanks, Dan
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Phil Street)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: fbb message address
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[e-mail] (Dan Lehnen) writes:

> Hi,
> Can anyone tell me the address to send to to get the FBB messages comming to

What exactly are your trying to do here? Is is that you want an FBB BBS to
send message addressed a specific way to be sent to you or what.

Sorry, but I don't understand what you are asking here.


Phil Street
email: [e-mail]  [e-mail]
Snail: P.O. Box 97, Mirrabooka. 6061. Australia.
Packet Radio: vk6ks@vk6bbr.#per.#wa.aus.oc


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (MattCrw17)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: help with DTMF reciever project
Date: 14 Sep 1995 18:44:39 -0400
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I would really appreciate any help or info on this project.  Maybe
somebody here has built something similar to this, and could E-mail me
tips or schematics but do not post for my benefit because I do not
frequent this group.


Okay, I need a DTMF pad hooked up to a inexpensize short range transmitter
walkie-talkey, homebrew,or somthing like that.  I need to have my reciever
fire a relay or solenoid or something when the proper 4 digit code is
entered.  P.S. must be portable (DC)  My problem is I have little
expertise, but I could have somebody build it properly if it is too
involved.  Tips on where to salvage circuts from for this are also
appreciated.


Thanx. E-mail me


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Snakpit)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Knoxville, TN area packet frequencies?
Date: 21 Sep 1995 23:34:15 -0400
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I need to know the packet frequencies that are used
around the Knoxville, Tennessee area.

Any information will be helpful.

AD4QQ
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rane Curl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MSK = Minimum Shift Keying
Date: 15 Sep 1995 06:49:43 GMT
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MSK is the mode used for transmitting the differential corrections
in order to remove SA error in GPS position measurements. I inquired
in sci.geo.satellite-nav about whether anyone has adapted ham
equipment to receive and translate this mode, but got no response.
Can anyone direct me to published information on amateur use of
MSK in digital communication (or, even better, for GPS!)?

Rane Curl       n8reg




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Keith Sproul)
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Subject: Re: MSK = Minimum Shift Keying
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:51:34 -0400
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My father, W5UGQ is working on making the hardware to allow general
coverage receivers to receive MSK for use with DGPS.


When we get something to report on this, we will post it to the news groups.

In article <43b7m7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Rane Curl) wrote:

> MSK is the mode used for transmitting the differential corrections
> in order to remove SA error in GPS position measurements. I inquired
> in sci.geo.satellite-nav about whether anyone has adapted ham
> equipment to receive and translate this mode, but got no response.
> Can anyone direct me to published information on amateur use of
> MSK in digital communication (or, even better, for GPS!)?
>
> Rane Curl       n8reg
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Luszcz)
Subject: NET/Mac IP help needed (SFBay area)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
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Hi,
 I would like to get my packet station running using IP with the
NET/Mac program. I have the current copies of the NET/MAc program and
the mailer. I have a ip address and name (44.4.20.148) and my TNC
connected to my radio and all that good stuff.
  I have some questions about some off the parameters in my autoexec.net
file. Where would I get a route IP number for the South Bay (Redwood
City, CA) ? I would also like it to run my TNC off my printer port,
would that be ax1?
  THanks,
  -Jeff N2TIQ



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: NVIS 80 Meter Pactor ops (was Calif pactor ops)
Date: 20 Sep 1995 01:04:46 -0400
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For those interested in using NVIS antennas and 80 meter pactor, a group
is starting to form and be active on the 80 meter band. The following hams
are
now active: KI7GF - Larry; NF7V- Jack; WB6HQK-Bart; and WA6UBE - Trish;

Current freq for initial calling and access to another user's
mailbox is: 3633 (mark tone)
Tentative freq for long-winded qso's that are
keyboard-to-keyboard is: 3637 (mark tone) ..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------
part of this effort is for a group of hams to move away from the practice
of just
getting on to a randomly selected frequency, calling cq, and hoping that
someone who is tuning around the band will happen to tune across and hear
their cq.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
I have set up my kam unit as follows: mark tone= 1000 Hz; space tone=1170
Hz
shift = Modem.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
This way your radio's frequency display will be showing 3634 KHz when you
are
on the calling channel and 3638 khz when on the keyboard-to-keyboard
channel
since your mark tone will be 1000 hz below your displayed frequency when
the
equipment is set up properly.

73 - Trish
[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Mulvey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet UUencode??
Date: 20 Sep 1995 22:22:36 GMT
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LWard ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello-

: Has anyone ever tried sending UUencoded GIFs over packet?  When people send binary GIFS
: it's near impossible to capture them.  But since, I think, all UUcodes are made up of readable
: characters, wouldn't it be possible???

: L Ward
: KO4IQ

   Yes, in fact it's required if you want to send any sort of binary file
via packet.

   Please note, however, that you'd get a lot of people REALLY pissed off,
considering the average size of a GIF file.  At the effective CPS rate
of Amateur packet, it will take a looooong time to get where you
want it to go.

- Rich

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[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Part 15 Equipment For Packet Networking
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 14:52:18 GMT
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In article <CSLE87-1809950902480001@145.39.1.10> [e-mail] (Karl Beckman) writes:
>In article <43cvu9$[e-mail]>, Rick Whiting
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Has anyone used unlicensed (Part 15) equipment as part of their packet
>> radio network?
>>
>> I'm looking at some vendor's descriptions of Part 15 WAN radios that look
>> like they might be useful as a high-speed backbone (MAN) network. I note
>> that both direct sequence and frequency hopping technology is used. Is
>> one to be preferred over the other (in the currently marketed equipment)?
>> Does it depend on whether you're at 900 MHz vs. 2.4 GHz?
>
>If you are planning to use this equipment as part of an AMATEUR Part 97
>network, you must comply with the amateur rules restrictions regarding
>frequencies, bandwidth, frequencies, SS spreading codes, and plaintext.
>Now have at it.

Actually, that's not true. You can use Part 15 devices *under Part 15*
to interconnect disjoint amateur segments of a network operating under
Part 97 just as you could use telco links for the same purpose. You'd
only have a problem if you modified the Part 15 device so that it no
longer falls under Part 15, IE by using an amplifier for example. *Then*
you'd have to obey Part 97 rules when applying it just as you would for
any other commercial service radio you'd modified for use in the amateur
bands.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Radio for 9600 baud@UHF
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <4332ef$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>       I was wondering if there are any suggestions out there for which
>radios are easiest to convert to UHF 9600 baud packet radios.  There are
>several people in the area that would like to get on the air and it has
>been a while since anyone purchased any commercial radios that got
>converted to this mode.  Of course we are looking at inexpensive and
>reliable radios.

You want the Tekk KS-900. It's designed for 9600 baud data, and it's cheap.
Or you can use the Kantronics D4-10. It's also designed for 9600 baud data,
but not quite so cheap. Or you can butcher an old Micor or Mitrek, though
opening up the IF bandwidth is not trivial if you want good performance.

QST says that of the Japanese radios you want an all-mode since
they usually avoid the synthesizer loop bandpass problem by
modulating an IF stage. They also raved about a new, and expensive,
Azden that's designed for 9600 baud data and FM voice.

Most of the Japanese radios advertised as "9600 baud ready", aren't.
That's just advertising copy, not engineering. It usually means they
put a jack on the back labeled "data", but didn't do any of the
bandpass modifications necessary to properly handle 9600 baud, IE
phase linearity sucks. A case in point is the Kenwood 733. While many
have tried to use them at 9600 baud, the BER is disappointing. And QST
gagged over a couple of Icom models too.

You want a direct FM radio, preferably crystal controlled or IF
modulated, with a receiver IF filter that's gentle and fairly
broad in order to have a reasonable phase response. IF filters
generally suffer severe phase linearity problems near their edges,
so you need a filter that's broader than the modulation would indicate
in order to stay near the filter center and avoid the phase errors
out at the edges. A 30 kHz bandpass seems to work well for 9600 baud.

Unfortunately, SNR and adjacent channel rejection suffer with the broad
gently sloped filters, so you'll need more than expected signal strength,
and a greater guard band, in order to get through with a low BER. This
is a result of the decisions made for the modulating signal in order
to use it through voice grade FM radios. There are much better modulation
forms that could be used with purpose built radios. An example is the
MSK used with the 56kb RF modem. More nearly ideal filters can be used
with this modulation than with the K9NG/G3RUH modulation, but voice
grade FM radios can't be used with MSK so you need purpose built
data radios.

Interestingly, QST found that *overdeviating* the voice grade radios
often resulted in lower BER at 9600 baud. This is contrary to the
experience with 1200 baud where low deviations generally work best,
IE 3 kHz instead of 5 kHz works better for 1200 baud. It may be that
a form of limiting occurs in the non-linear IF filters of voice
grade radios with hot 9600 baud modulation which sidesteps some of
the phase linearity problem. If you try this, watch total occupied
spectrum, however, to make sure you stay within the limits for the
band you are using, IE don't try this at 2 meters.

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: radios for 9600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Since I am very confused about which radio can and which can not
>directly support 9600 packet, I'd like to ask the experienced guys
>here.
>Which radio (I mean mobile mostly) can DIRECTLY support >=9600 packet?
>I've been told about FT8500 and about TM733 but noone have the
>necessary experience arround here.

Aside from the purpose built data radios like the TEKK and the
Kantronics D4-10, only the Azden PCS-9600 voice/data radio is
ready to go right out of the box. According to QST test results,
the radios you mention aren't *really* 9600 ready, and local
experience backs that up. Their 9600 baud capability is primarily
a development of the advertising department rather than the
engineering department. QST did look favorably on some of the
all-mode rigs, like the IC-820H, but most synthesized FM rigs
fail miserably at 9600 baud. Both the Azden and the IC-820H
do their modulation at a fixed IF *outside* the synthesizer
loop, and both the TEKK and the Kantronics D4-10 are crystal
controlled. That should be a clue as to what kinds of radios
to be looking for. If the modulation is applied inside the
synthesizer loop, you've got trouble on your hands.

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Apostolos K. Salkintzis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: radios for 9600
Date: 21 Sep 95 11:56:10 GMT
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Since I am very confused about which radio can and which can not
directly support 9600 packet, I'd like to ask the experienced guys
here.
Which radio (I mean mobile mostly) can DIRECTLY support >=9600 packet?
I've been told about FT8500 and about TM733 but noone have the
necessary experience arround here.

Thanks in advance.
Salki (sv7dni)

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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Struggling with PC RFI.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: PC RFI Help
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <43jmg2$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:07:15 GMT
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In article <43jmg2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul Grenness) writes:
>My interest is the digital protocols on H.F, as an SWLer, using homebrew
>hardware and software and I continue to struggle with PC RFI. My receiver,
>valve, is well shielded, BNC antenna input.
>
>Sofar I'm using a balanced feedline and balun from a dipole, I've disconnected
>house earths and am using a couple of meters of copper bus-bar driven into damp
>ground as an RF earth, I've sprayed around the inside of my VGA monitor with
>electro-conductive (nickel-based) paint, I've got aluminium foil inside the
>monitor case, I've tried a Monochrome monitor, I've put toroids on PC signal
>leads, I've installed an FCC approved PC power supply, all audio and signal
>leads are in coax, I've ...
>
>While the monitor case paint had the most significant effect, my PC RFI
>problems persist with me not be able to do any digital SWLing above about
>10MHz. At lower freqs, signal levels have to be pretty good to be able to
>demodulate/decode. Any more suggestions please ??

Paul, it sounds like you've been heading in the right direction, however,
you obviously haven't gone far enough in some direction to solve the
problem. What you need is a systematic approach. You need to locate the
sources of interference one at a time and suppress them one at a time
until you've quieted the entire system.

Here is an approach to try. Disconnect everything from the PC except
the power cord. Power it up and hunt for interference in your receiver.
If you still find interference, it's getting through the case, or coming
out the power lead. So take steps to improve case bonding, or use better
RFI suppression on the power lead (right at the case) until you've quieted
that RFI source completely. Next add the keyboard. Do what is necessary
to quiet that. Then add a mouse, if you use one, and quiet that, finally
add your monitor, your printer, your modem, etc, one at a time and similarly
suppress each. You'll chase your tail for months trying to quiet the system
by shotgun methods. You've got to be systematic and treat one problem at
a time.

If you find one item that's particularly noisy, and you aren't having
much success in quieting it, come back here with details and we'll give
you specific advice. You *can* quiet any computer, it just depends on
how much effort you want to exert doing it.

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:25 1995
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Terminal mode software
Date: 20 Sep 1995 07:03:30 GMT
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Actually, either the CSTATUS command, or the STATUS command
will confirm whether the connect is legit. Also, most TNCs
will also toggle the carrier detect rs232 pin when the current
stream or channel is connected...

Chuck Harrington
PacketPeT For Windows!




From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Terminal mode software
Reply-To: [e-mail]
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In <csle87-1209950851040001@145.39.1.10> [e-mail] (Karl Beckman) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

>> Hi,
>> I have a piece of software which is talking to a TNC in terminal mode (NOT
>> host mode).  Unless I am missing something very simple, I can't see a way
>> of the software knowing, when a connection occurs, whether the connection
>> was initiated by the local TNC or a remote TNC.  All that comes back from
>> the TNC is the "*** CONNECTED to ....." message.  Is there any way of
>> directly determining which end of the connection initiated it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>
>> Tim Kearsley.  [e-mail]

>Surely there is, Tim.  Assume that only your software is talking to the
>TNC user port.  If your software sent "C CALLSIGN" and the message reply
>is connected to CALLSIGN, then your end initiated the connection.

Actually you don't even know if the "*** CONNECTED to ....." message
originates from the TNC itself or is sent as data from the other end.
This can lead to very interesting confusions, that make this mode of
talking to the TNC unusable for serious automated operation.

(connect to a BBS that still runs RLI or MBL, and type "*** DISCONNECTED"
in your session, and see what happens.  this is not at all far-fetched.
long ago I tried to upload a document I wrote that was intended as an
example of some packet communication and included such strings.  tough...)

Modern applications use hostmode or KISS to avoid this problem.

Rob
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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Smith)
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Subject: Re: WEFAX thru SB16 with ASP?
Date: 22 Sep 1995 00:39:41 GMT
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I though they killed WEFAX on HF in September is this true??

--
Bob Smith, Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]
TAPR 5412  ARRL



From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:31 1995
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Where can I find a copy of TNOS for Linux?
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[e-mail] () wrote:
>I need a copy of TNOS for Linux, anyone know where I can get a copy?
>

ftp.lantz.com, the author's host site.


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From [e-mail] Fri Sep 22 13:26:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (J. Miner)
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Subject: Windows Terminal Program
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Hello,

I would like to use Windows 3.11 on Packet.  Right Now I'm using paKet
6.1. with the KPC3.  I would like to know what full feature Packet
Terminal programs are avable and and what other people are using.  Would
you please give me some suggestion and where I can get the program from!

Thanks and 73,
Jon N2XFZ



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Glenn Elmore)
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Subject: Re: 2Mbps datalink questions
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Daniel Meyer ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I read the ARRL Handbook/Ham Radio Magazine article on the 2Mbps data link,
: and it left me with a number of questions, so here goes:
<questions deleted>

Dan,
  Try the WWW page shown at the bottom, perhaps it will help.


73

Glenn Elmore n6gn

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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:14 1995
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Subject: APRS in 2m SSB sub-band
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Greetings,
        I am a weak signal operator equipped for 6m and shorter waves.
        The vhf news reflector has heated up after a posting about the use of the
lower part of 2m for APRS.
        I haven't seen any messages regarding the subject. Perhaps the author is
alarmed over nothing.
        Such automated stations, if unco-ordinated would make weak signal work
impossible. We start with a difficult to hear station, adding splatter from a
non-responding automated station will blanket the weak station.
        I have not posted this to start flame wars, but for rationale discussion.
There are ways to accomodate all users. Additionally the weak signal enthusiast
is rarely known outside their sub-band, we enjoy the challange of near impossible
QSOs. An S3 signal is excellent copy.

                                73
                                Jim     N7TCF


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Victor Morange)
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Subject: Aprs?
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I have a KPC-3 and I was wondering if I can get on APRS without a GPS
system because I know my own lat and Long.

73,
Victor, KO6ZK
[e-mail]
KO6ZK@W6NWG.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:16 1995
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From: "Charles W. Doolittle-Scovish" <doolic>
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Subject: Re: Aprs?
Date: 23 Sep 1995 23:50:52 GMT
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I have an older KPC3 as well. I do it all the time.  I have run nodes without
GPS.  The only time that will help is if you are moving, and want constant
updates on your position, or if you don't know it at all.

--
Charles W. Doolittle-Scovish
[e-mail]
N1SPX



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:17 1995
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IN> ***********************  BPQ NODE CONFIGURATION HELP **********************


IN>We want to make a BPQ node with these ports:
IN>        -> Cluster software in the same computer
IN>        -> KISS TNC 2 only for access the cluster
IN>        -> TNC 2 with Thenet  (frecuency 1)
IN>        -> TNC 2 with Thenet  (frecuency 2)

IN>The computer where BPQ and the cluster software is running has standard COM1
IN>& COM2
IN>and a PC-COM card wich allows COM3 to COM6 with diferent adresses and the
IN>same IRQ (IRQ 5)

IN>Could you send me an example of the bpqcfg.txt configuration file ?

IN>Thanks a lot.

IN>        Inigo. EB2DTP.
IN>                          ########################################
IN>                          -> e-mail: [e-mail]              <-

IN>                          -> packet: [e-mail] <-
IN>                          ########################################

Hola I±igo:

Te envio adjunto a este mensaje mi fichero de configuracion del BPQ a
ver si te vale. A mi me funciona muy bien. Cualquier cosa, puedes
contestarme por este medio.

Saludos + 73,

                                             Eduardo Sotorrio, EA7AFG/4
                                             Sysop de Madrid Online
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JDY18)
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Subject: Contest software for KamPlus
Date: 24 Sep 1995 11:00:12 -0400
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Is there any software available that will run HF/VHF on the KamPlus
simultaneously and will log and dupe for contests. I'm currently using
HostMaster which does all of this except for the duping. Does KaGold or
any of the terminal programs dupe?

73 de Jay,
KD2L


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:19 1995
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[e-mail] (JDY18) wrote:
>Is there any software available that will run HF/VHF on the KamPlus
>simultaneously and will log and dupe for contests. I'm currently using
>HostMaster which does all of this except for the duping. Does KaGold or
>any of the terminal programs dupe?
>
>73 de Jay,
>KD2L

The WF1B RTTY contest software is marvellous.  I just used it this past
CQ WW contest and it was great.  Check out the Home page for the IDRS and
you can order it from them.

73 and live better digitally.
Jim, VE3XJ




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Do YOU operate 80 meter Pactor on West Coast?
Date: 25 Sep 1995 00:16:50 -0400
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Looking for other hams in Calif/nevada/oregon
who like working 80 meter pactor --
...
I have been looking into stimulating interest in an 80 meter
calling freq for pactor ops: 3633 khz (mark tone)
Four of us are active there now:
KI7GF - Larry
NF7V - Jack
WB6HQK - Bart
WA6UBE - Trish
we tend to use ARQ Mailboxes there and for long-winded live qso's, we move
to
3637 khz (mark tone)
...
If you have a kantronics "KAM" unit, set these commands as
follows:
mark    = 1000 Hz
space   = 1170 Hz
shift      = modem
arqbbs  = on

dial your rig on LSB to 3634 KHz (suppressed carrier freq) for the calling
channel . OR  3638 KHz for the working channel if you are going
keybd-to-keybd
for a lengthy qso ..

see you there! ..
Trish - wa6ube

[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:21 1995
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Hello Daniel:

Could you check if my email address is included into the distribution
list of your list server? I d'ont receive any message of your server
after some weeks.

Thanks in advance and 73,


                                             Eduardo Sotorrio (EA7AFG)
                                             Sysop of Madrid Online

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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:22 1995
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From: Clifford Buttschardt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: G3RUH modems for AO10/13 useage
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Has anyone used these 400 baud downlink telimetry modems in terrestrial
service?  They worked so very well in satellite service it would seem
possible to use them in 300 baud or less HF communications.  Granted, BPSK
creates bandwidth problems but with aquaquate filtering similiar to that
used in MSK a satisfactory HF signal should be possible.
     I am somewhat embarrased to ask James Miller but does anyone know if
the bit inversion skem in this demodulator REQUIRE ascii to operate or
can we simply use any protocol and expect the mark/space to be correct?
In his original 1988 articles this was far from clear.  73 Cliff--W6HDO



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:23 1995
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Sampson)
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Subject: Re: Handbook 2Mbps Data Link
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 12:46:50
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>I read the ARRL Handbook/Ham Radio Magazine article on the 2Mbps data link,
>and it left me with a number of questions, so here goes:

>1) What quality of Gunn diode is neccessary?

You need a Gunnplexor.  That is, a cavity with both a Gunn diode and a
Varactor inside.  The Modulation of the DC power is a poor way to go.

>2) What is the maximum speed of the link?

As fast as your data pump can go.  A good data pump is the PI2 card, and
an ethernet card.

>3) How exactly is the device interfaced?

You need a shielded cable that has low noise, differential line drivers,
etc.

>Are there any easier/cheaper solutions to the ideas presented above?

All high speed choices are expensive.  There is a market for an integrated
data pump and RF link.  The big companies have gone the spread spectrum
route.  They do so because of less interference.  The Gunnplexor uses a
crystal diode as a detector, rather than a superheterodyne mixer.  It is
highly prone to interference.  A nearby radar will zap it every six seconds
or so.  For example when I take my Gunn radar by the FAA Academy it has a
real nice BZZZZZZZT as the Approach radar swings by.  The approach radar is
L band, and my radar is X band.  The crystal detector of course is the culprit.

--
Steve



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Sandy Lynch)
Subject: Help - KAM/FT1000 RTTY problem
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I seem to have a problem using my KAM (v5.X) with my FT-1000.
It seems that my transmit and receive frequencies are offset
by approximately 400Hz.  If you have any suggestions, they
would be most welcomed.

Set-up:

1. KAM (5.X firmware) connected using a custom cable with separate
   connectors for CW key-in, Packet, and RTTY on the FT-1000.

2. FT-1000 PKT/RTTY dip switch #5 set to "reverse".  At first,
   the rcv was okay but the xmit was "inverted".  Changing this
   dip switch on the top of the FT-1000 at least made both sending
   and receiving "intelligible" (with another local station).

3. Software is Host Master for Macintosh 2.2b.  (yep - that's right, I
   use a Mac :-)

Any suggestions what I ought to try next?  To be frank, I don't recall
ever operating RTTY (nor amtor/hf packet) with the KAM/FT-1000 combo.
I have used the KAM on RTTY in the past with my FT-757GX/II ... but
it's been a couple of years since I've tried HF digital. ;-(

Cheers
Sandy  WA6BXH
WA6BXH@N0ARY
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:26 1995
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Subject: Re: Help - KAM/FT1000 RTTY problem
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Any suggestions what I ought to try next?  To be frank, I don't recall
ever operating RTTY (nor amtor/hf packet) with the KAM/FT-1000

---> You might check to see if your transmit frequency is shifting becuase
the radio itself is changing frequency due to variation in power supply
voltage..

I have run into this problem where the power supply voltage drops under
transmit
load. This could be a cause of a shift in frequency..

Patricia gibbons - wa6ube
[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:27 1995
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From: tcmayo@eng106 (Tom Mayo N1RMU)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HELP: TNOS: Where to start?
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Hello.  I would like to run packet on my 286 and allow access from my Linux
machine.  I think the best topology is to run TNOS on the 286 and have a PPP
link to the Linux machine.

I downloaded TNOS 2.01, and although I am not afraid of the scope of the
project, I would like a mentor who could advise me of where to start and
how to proceed.

Our local user port is currently being upgraded to THE NET X1J4, and I
assume it has to have TCP/IP capabilities for TNOS to work.  Is this
correct?

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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Frednyc)
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Is anyone using this decoder ?  Please share your thoughts.


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I've had one for 4 yrs or more, love it.  Software dsp operates on
the highly-sampled audio signals from your receiver, [as opposed to
some things, which just square up that signal...], does a muhc better
job of pulling signals out of the mud than any analog filter based
things I've used in the past [AEA, pre-dsp, for example], and the
protocol stuff, to say nothing of the scope and other options, are just
great.

I bought mine from Holland direct, [the price in Europe seems to
have gone out of signt, however] called the guys down in
Louisiana the otehr day, got very pleasant news on upgrading the
software to the current package, will be ordering this week.

I hven't used the Universal or other units so can't comment on them,
or on comparisions to them.....

/mark

Frednyc ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Is anyone using this decoder ?  Please share your thoughts.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:30 1995
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From: Svein Yngvar Willassen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Internet in a rural area?
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As a project, I'm going to live a year in the wilderness in
the vast mountains of Norway.  I'm trying to get a computer-
and Internet based communication. So my question is:  What is
the best equipment to choose for the connection?   I'm
experienced in computer, but unfortunately not in digital
radioing.

The distanace from my hut to the nearest Internet wire is
about 100 km, with fairly mountainous terrain, and I hope to
get a fairly good connection. (56 kbps and up).  So please
tell me:  Is this a hopeless project, or not?  And what
equipment should I use?


--
Svein Yngvar Willassen
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   - at The Norwegian Institute of Technology -
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Internet in a rural area?
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In article <44134e$[e-mail]> Svein Yngvar Willassen <[e-mail]> writes:
>As a project, I'm going to live a year in the wilderness in
>the vast mountains of Norway.  I'm trying to get a computer-
>and Internet based communication. So my question is:  What is
>the best equipment to choose for the connection?   I'm
>experienced in computer, but unfortunately not in digital
>radioing.
>
>The distanace from my hut to the nearest Internet wire is
>about 100 km, with fairly mountainous terrain, and I hope to
>get a fairly good connection. (56 kbps and up).  So please
>tell me:  Is this a hopeless project, or not?  And what
>equipment should I use?

I'm tempted to just tell you it's hopeless, and from a practical
standpoint it may be. However, theoretically you can do it if
you can get access to the proper intermediate relay sites.

The simplest direct radio path would be a NVIS system at lower
HF, but you'd only get 300 baud half duplex that way. 56 kb RF
modems exist, the WA4DSY, aka GRAPES, RF modem would serve, but
you need UHF line of sight paths to make it work. In your terrain,
that likely means you'd have to setup intermediate relay sites
at one or more points to span the distance.

You need to get a set of topographic maps and plot line of sight
paths between your location and the internet POP. Depending on
the number of hops you have to use to clear terrain, you can
decide if the project is practical or not.

Note: while UHF will reflect and refract across terrain, lots
of multipath will kill data performance because of symbol
distortion, so you can't just depend on the fact you can use a
voice radio over a particular path as a guarantee that data
will also flow unimpeded over that path. You need a path that
clears the first Fresnel zone to assure good performance.

We have spanned the distance you need over the gentle mountains
in North Georgia with a single hop, but that is mountain top
to mountain top with a favorable configuration of ridges and
valleys to allow path clearance.

If you're willing to tackle this as a proper engineering project,
and can get access to install the necessary relay site(s), then
this is an entirely feasible project. You may be able to find
other amateurs in the area who would be interested in the utility
of those relay sites for their own communications. Then you may
be able to pool talents and expertise to make this a much easier
and individually less costly undertaking. Pooled resources is
the secret of the power of networking.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:33 1995
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From: Bob Winingham <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KPC3(Ver6)->Garmin45
Date: 25 Sep 1995 10:01:37 GMT
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>I was wondering if anyone knew the configuration of the KPC3 to a
>Garmin GPS45.  Or, where a place I might look into.
>

Here is the Software setup. Let me know if you want Hardware setup.



                How to use the KCP-3 TNC as a remote GPS Tacker
                ================================================


          Setting for which NEMA sentences you want to record or beacon
                  You get to set up to 4. I use only two
GPSHEAD
1 $GPGGA
2 $GPRMC
3
4

        The LT buffer filled with real GPS data
LT
1 $GPGGA,064301,3250.743,N,09645.669,W,1,05,2.6,236.7,M,-24.8,M,,*71
2 $GPRMC,064303,A,3250.742,N,09645.668,W,002.4,121.2,040695,,*06
3
4

          The LT buffer when the GPS is not seeing any satellites.
LT
1 $GPGGA,100552,,,,,0,00,,,M,,M,,*65
2 $GPRMC,100551,V,,,,,,,020695,,*39
3
4

          Setting the beacon time for the GPS data (Also the storage time)
                  I use $GPGGA two times a min and $GPRMC once a min.
                  Note the offset so RELAY stations have time to respond
BLT
1 EVERY 00:00:30
2 EVERY 00:01:10
3 EVERY 00:00:00
4 EVERY 00:00:00

          Setting for the output APRS format
LTP
1 APRSM VIA RELAY
2 APRSM VIA RELAY,WIDE
3 NONE
4 NONE
          Setting the buffer storage inside the TNC to save the GPS data.

LTRACK
LTRACK   5 LT1 LT2 LT3 LT4    or
LTRACK   5 LT2                for only saving the LT2 data which is $GPRMC
                              per my GPSHEAD setting.

With the standard 32K of memory 17 is the largest I could set this value. You
can add more memory to the TNC for a larger buffer.

Note the data is stored in the buffer at the rate set by the BLT beacon
command
and not the rate the GPS sends date to the TNC.


INTERFACE GPS           When the TNC is next powered off/on it will start in
GPS mode.
                        INTFACE  { TERMINAL | NEWUSER | BBS | KISS | HOST |
GPS }

I also use the Software CD setting.
CD SOFTWARE



              How to READ GPS track DATA from the TNC buffer:
              ===============================================

You can read the TNC buffer data remotely via radio or by attaching a local
computer
to the RS-232 port.

login to the TNC BBS as callsign-1


LTRack n [string]   will DISPLAY LAST n MSGS IN TRACK BUFFER

LTRACK 50           Read 50 lines of data from the buffer
LTRACK 50 $GPGGA    Read 50 lines of $GPGGA data from the buffer.

The data is dumped back in LIFO format (last in first out). That is - it is
backward of
what you are expecting for a trip log. I use Mac BBEdit program to reverse
the lines.
The data will plot with APRS even if the trip log is backwards.

73





From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (user)
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Subject: MET NOAH SAT USING SOUND-BLASETER
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 14:41:53 GMT
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Hi  thanks for reading this msg,

I am looking for info on how to use your sound-blaster to receive
met  noah sat  weather fax  pictures.

I can get hf pictures.

all info would be appreciated.

73's Cliff
 [e-mail]
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:34 1995
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From: Ingvar Eriksson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: MET NOAH SAT USING SOUND-BLASETER
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Sorry can┤t help you with your question, but you made me curious
regarding receiving hf fax with sound blaster card. How do you do that?

Would also like to know if someone uses sound blaster for amtor traffic.

73 de Ingvar/SM7DUZ



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (G.R. "Scott" Cundiff)
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Subject: MSYS BBS via Internet?
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Hello All,

Does anyone have any experience passing BBS traffic via Internet?  We have a
local BBS here but a poor to non-existent path out of this area.  You might
say we are at the end of the dirt road on the Information Super Highway!  I
am thinking about finding a BBS partner who could forward to my email
address and then I could forward to the BBS.  Anyone doing anything like that?
73, Scott

==================================================================
internet:  [e-mail]    ham: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM
==================================================================



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Need advise/Refs for simple Transmitter
Date: 23 Sep 1995 11:58:42 -0400
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<<      I am working on a project which  (under ideal circumstances) would
require communication of two small devices over the air for a maximum of
40 Yards. >>

What frequency band did you have in mind??

Is this primariliy an exercise in building your own
transmitters/receivers? or
have you thought of the use of alternatives in "already built" gear for
the range and
speed that you need?  for example some types of low cost military
telemetry
equipment like AN/PRT-4 with its companion receiver unit. OR army surplus
PSID units ( Patrol Seismic intrusion device ) .. There are surplus PSID
units that
work up in the 140 MHz range and are low power A.M. devices -- Sources
would be "Fair Radio sales" in Lima Ohio p.o. box 1105  45802.
there telephone#: [phone]; or fax: [phone]

 Patricia Gibbons - wa6ube
[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl"


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:37 1995
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Subject: Packet Programs with Win 95
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Hello..I was wondering if anyone could give me some information on
current packet programs that are for Windows 95...term programs, tnc
programs ,etc.

73's and Thanks!

[From: Jim Nessen - KD6HWC]
Internet: [e-mail]
Packet: KD6HWC@WA6RDH.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
CyberVillage BBS - [phone]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Barnett)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet software for KPC-3
Date: 23 Sep 1995 19:33:27 -0600
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HI All,
   I just got up and running on packet using a Radio Shack HTX-202 and a
Kantronics KPC-3.  Iwas wondering if someone could suggest a good packet
software to use for packet.  Also one for WEFAX.  Thanks and 73.

Scott Barnett
[e-mail]

P.S. Please send me replys via email.
--
Scott R. Barnett                         [e-mail]
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PFPC, Inc.                               HAM  [e-mail]
    All opinions expressed or implied are my own and no one else's!!!


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dean Heinen)
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Subject: Re: Part 15 Equipment For Packet Networking
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:26:46 LOCAL
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In article <44211e$[e-mail]> Rick Whiting <[e-mail]> writes:

-deletia-

>That is a good question.  Perhaps someone with some experience, e.g.,
>using the Symbol Technologies, Telxon, or Tetherless Access, etc.,
>wireless WAN/LAN equipment, will enlighten us.


I'll see if I can shed any light on this subject.  This information applies to
the USA, and _some_ other countries.

Part 15 devices may be used to link ANY application by the user. This includes
data, voice, image, whatever,  including Part 97 systems.  This is based
simply upon the Part 15 rules.

There is, however, a way to employ Part 15 Devices for usage under Part 97,
and EXCEED power limits, antenna gain restrictions, and spreading code
limitations.

Mr. Robert Buass (K6KGS) has applied for, and has been granted an STA (Special
Temporary Authorization) for the use of Part 15 devices in amateur service.
This STA allows up to 100 watts of transmitter power, and does not limit
antenna gain. It does mention dipoles and yagi's , but does not apparently
limit the STA to to use of them, a parabolic would likely be acceptable, if
you really need it.

Since that time, the FCC has granted an indefinite time to this STA.

Other amateurs may JOIN the STA, or use it as a guideline to apply for their
own STA.

With the use of "Over the Counter"  SS radios and amplifiers, and your choice
of antennas, a link can be done at many different data rates and interfaces.

Some options for equipment are available on our homepage:
http://www.teleport.com/~nts

Some may be too expensive for your needs, some may be surprisingly afforadable.

Yep, we are dealers of SS equipment.  I don't want to get too wordy about our
services here.  Some may feel that I am just advertising.
Please email me at   [e-mail]

A particularly nice unit is the FreeWave DRG-115, with their 1 or 5 watt
"Mast Mounted" amplifiers.  These also provide recieve gain.

The 5 watt  unit, with a line of sight path, and 12 - 15 Db yagis , will
provide a full duplex, 115.2 Kbaud RS-232 path, OVER 60 miles.

No kidding!   Makes a great backbone.

For shorter hops, I would suggest the Aironet "ARLAN" line of ethernet
bridges and cards, for connection at 1 or 2 Mb/s.


For further information on joining the STA,  see
http://www.sp.nps.navy.mil:80/ss/index.html
This page is operated by  Steve Bible, N7HPR,  [e-mail] .

Or perhaps contact  K6KGS directly.

 Robert Buaas, K6KGS
 20271 Bancroft Circle
 Huntington Beach, CA 92646

-------------------

I am not affiliated with Steve Bible or Robert Buaas.
I just like to get facts straight, and keep people legal and satisfied with
SS equipment.  We provide the best SS radios available.

Hope this helps clear up a confusing subject.

Dean Heinen   N7ZRS
Northwest Technical Services
http://www.teleport.com/~nts


- And everything under the sun is in tune,
- But the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
- Dean    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:41 1995
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Subject: Re: Part 15 Equipment For Packet Networking
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>
>Part 15 devices may be used to link ANY application by the user. This includes
>data, voice, image, whatever,  including Part 97 systems.  This is based
>simply upon the Part 15 rules.
>
>There is, however, a way to employ Part 15 Devices for usage under Part 97,
>and EXCEED power limits, antenna gain restrictions, and spreading code
>limitations.


>Mr. Robert Buass (K6KGS) has applied for, and has been granted an STA (Special
>Temporary Authorization) for the use of Part 15 devices in amateur service.
>This STA allows up to 100 watts of transmitter power, and does not limit
>antenna gain. It does mention dipoles and yagi's , but does not apparently
>limit the STA to to use of them, a parabolic would likely be acceptable, if
>you really need it.

I am involved in this too, and your comments need to be qualified.
Part 15 devices can be used, but Buass' STA does NOT do away with the
need to ID Spread Spectrum Transmissions under part 97, which is
a major nuisance/problem.

Bernie nu1s



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From: [e-mail] (Bernie Doehner NU1S)
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Subject: Re: Part 15 Equipment For Packet Networking
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Dean Heinen ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <443p8a$[e-mail]> Bernie Doehner <[e-mail]> writes:


: >I am involved in this too, and your comments need to be qualified.
: >Part 15 devices can be used, but Buass' STA does NOT do away with the
: >need to ID Spread Spectrum Transmissions under part 97, which is
: >a major nuisance/problem.

: >Bernie nu1s

: Good Point.  Can  you , or any others involved,  inform us of ID methods you
: might be using?

: Dean

The system I am designing will use a quick CW id roughly at the center
frequency of the direct sequence spread spectrum emission, by unbalancing
the DBM that is used to heterodyne the "baseband" spread spectrum signal
up the band of interest (or in simpler terms, feeding some of the Local
Oscillator power to the amplifier sections at the tune of a CW id -
using the principle of superpostion).

Hopefuly if this is done very quickly and some precautions are taken, there
won't be much impact on the bit error rate, although I suppose I can
live with a few seconds of higher BER every 10 minutes.

I know that some systems, use fast AX.25 to ID their SS transmisison, but
I consider the CW solution simpler.

But this still doesn't resolve the underlying problem... How does one
properly ID a Spread Spectrum transmission (set aside what part 97 says
for right now)? Even by transmitting CW or AX.25 somwhere in the band,
there exists a probability of interfering with ongoing narrowband communications
in the band (especially on 2 meters).

Bernie


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bernie Doehner NU1S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Part 15 Equipment For Packet Networking
Date: 24 Sep 1995 17:34:48 GMT
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First time I use tin to post from home, and I just noticed that
my posting address in the last message in this thread (and obviously
this one) is the fake one I use on my private net (not a legal Inet
address).

So, if you reply by email, please use: [e-mail].

Thanks

Bernie


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dean Heinen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Part 15 Equipment For Packet Networking
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In article <443p8a$[e-mail]> Bernie Doehner <[e-mail]> writes:


>I am involved in this too, and your comments need to be qualified.
>Part 15 devices can be used, but Buass' STA does NOT do away with the
>need to ID Spread Spectrum Transmissions under part 97, which is
>a major nuisance/problem.

>Bernie nu1s

Good Point.  Can  you , or any others involved,  inform us of ID methods you
might be using?

Dean


- And everything under the sun is in tune,
- But the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
- Dean    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:46 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Part 15 Equipment For Packet Networking
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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In article <4444k6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bernie Doehner NU1S) writes:
>
>The system I am designing will use a quick CW id roughly at the center
>frequency of the direct sequence spread spectrum emission, by unbalancing
>the DBM that is used to heterodyne the "baseband" spread spectrum signal
>up the band of interest (or in simpler terms, feeding some of the Local
>Oscillator power to the amplifier sections at the tune of a CW id -
>using the principle of superpostion).
>
>Hopefuly if this is done very quickly and some precautions are taken, there
>won't be much impact on the bit error rate, although I suppose I can
>live with a few seconds of higher BER every 10 minutes.
>
>I know that some systems, use fast AX.25 to ID their SS transmisison, but
>I consider the CW solution simpler.
>
>But this still doesn't resolve the underlying problem... How does one
>properly ID a Spread Spectrum transmission (set aside what part 97 says
>for right now)? Even by transmitting CW or AX.25 somwhere in the band,
>there exists a probability of interfering with ongoing narrowband communications
>in the band (especially on 2 meters).

Part 97 says that if you use Morse for ID only, the speed cannot
exceed 20 WPM (of course if you're using Morse for content transfer,
you can ID at the speed of the rest of your transmission, even if it
is 1000 WPM). I don't think it's legal to ID a SS signal with a AX.25
narrowband transmission popping up just anywhere in the bandpass,
though I'm not sure about that in the case of a FH system.

One of the ways you can ID a SS signal (assume PN) is to Morse key
the wideband signal. The other is to ID on a narrow frequency at the
spreading center, IE turn off PN and  narrowband modulate the naked
SS carrier for the ID. You can use the same baseband method for the
ID as you're using during spreading. So if you're spreading an AX.25
signal, you can ID with AX.25, or if you're using voice, you can ID
in voice. You can't ID in a different baseband unless you use Morse.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rafael Leon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: PK-96/HTX-202 compatability
Date: 22 Sep 1995 19:38:58 GMT
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Does anyone know if an AEA PK-96 (9k6 TNC) is too fast to work with a
2-meter HT like the HTX-202 from Radio Shack?  I heard that a special
radio is needed for packet operation above 1200, but I am a newcomer and
I need guidance.  Please respond by e-mail. Thank you.

--

Rafael Leon
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:48 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: radios for 9600
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: PE1CHL
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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 18:08:10 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:

> but most synthesized FM rigs
>fail miserably at 9600 baud. Both the Azden and the IC-820H
>do their modulation at a fixed IF *outside* the synthesizer
>loop, and both the TEKK and the Kantronics D4-10 are crystal
>controlled. That should be a clue as to what kinds of radios
>to be looking for. If the modulation is applied inside the
>synthesizer loop, you've got trouble on your hands.

That is *very true*.

I have converted a local node to have 9600 bps capability some time
ago, and another node was converted recently as well.  They use
crystal controlled equipmnent and have good performance.

Then, quite a number of people switched on their "9600 bps ready"
radios, sometimes even with K9NG modems instead of G3RUH (e.g. AEA
PK-900), and they had very disappointing performance.
Looking at the scope, the eye-pattern is awful.

The performance is so bad, that I think legal action against the
manufacturers/dealers is really a possibility.
(for making claims about the equipment specs that are not obtained
in reality)

Rob
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:49 1995
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From: Jim Durham <durham>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: W2XO BBS Web Page changes
Date: 25 Sep 1995 21:53:03 GMT
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-There have been some changes/improvements in the W2XO BBS
web page.

You can now scan message headers and read packet mail from
the page.

Hopefully, I will soon have a form up for sending mail.

This brings up security matters. Does anyone have any ideas on
how licensed hams could be authenticated so they could send
packet mail via the web? My intial thought was a cross-listing
of e-mail addresses and call letters. A better scheme would
be passwords associated with call letters. Anyone have any
ideas along these lines?

73
Jim, W2XO


-Jim Durham



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:50 1995
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WB7TPY Internet <-> Packet Gateway FAQ
From: [e-mail] (David Dodell)
Reply-To: [e-mail] (David Dodell)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 95 08:16:39 MST
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                             How to Use the WB7TPY
                          Packet <-> Internet Gateway

First, some brief operational notes:

(1) Messages must not contain any foul language, or commercial purpose.
(2) Messages can only be sent to countries that the United States has
    a third-party agreement.  All others will be destroyed.
(3) Messages from the internet should be less then 5K in length.
    No files should be sent.
(4) If you have questions, please do not hesitate to contact me either on
    packet radio: [e-mail]       -or-
    Internet    : [e-mail]


(5) Have fun.  Use the gateway as much as you like.  That is what it is
    there for.

                                    ------
                            From Internet to Packet
                                    ------


Send mail to the internet address of:

[e-mail]

The first line of text must contain a full packet address, preceded with the
word "Packet:"

For example, mail to my packet address, would have the first line of text;

Packet: [e-mail]


** NOTE: this line MUST be left justified.

                                    ------
                            From Packet to Internet
                                    ------

Send as private mail (never a bulletin) to the packet address of:

[e-mail]

The first line of text must contain a full domained internet address,
proceeded with the word "Internet:"

For example, mail to my internet address, would have the first line of text;

  Internet: [e-mail]

*** Remember, this has to be left justified


---
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Internet: [e-mail]                 FAX: [phone]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:52 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Prog
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Program

RM>I would like to use Windows 3.11 on Packet.

There's no better packet program than KaGOLD v9.xx, IMHO! Just a couple
highlights of Version 9:

  KAM   Ver 9 supports G-TOR, the new mode from Kantronics that
        is about 4 times faster than Pactor, and about twice
        that of Clover, based on may on-the-air tests. The KAM
        version 7 rom also allows more NUMNODES (KaNode
        connects) -- well beyond the original 4 max. Lower the
        PBBS size, and raise NUMNODES.  Ver 9 also displays ARQ
        link status information including Huffman compressed
        frame, link speed, error condition, etc.

  Version 9 represents a significant departure from the earlier
  versions of GOLD software.  Commands from remote stations are
  now allowed, two screen modes are supported for every session- -
  the normal text character screen and a new ANSI graphic screen
  -- direct interface to callsign databases (SAM, Buckmaster, QRZ)
  is supported, restartable file transfers, and improved operation
  in Windows and other multi- tasking environments, and support
  for CW announcements through ad-lib type sound cards.

      o   Callbook Support for four (4) CD based systems, and the
          SAM disk-based callbook. Users can lookup callsign data,
          the program does lookups automatically, and remote users
          can request callsign data making the station a callbook
          server (if remote commands are enabled and the
          appropriate callbook cmd file exists). Callbooks
          supported include Amsoft CD, Buckmaster CD, QRZ CD, SAM
          CD, and SAM Disk based callbook.

      o   ANSI Graphics supported on all sessions simultaneously.
          Pics are saved automatically if desired, and the program
          can "flip" to graphics mode automatically. No other
          program offers simultaneous, multiple ANSI picture
          receiving.

      o   Restartable YAPP and GOLD transfers. YAPP-C is
          supported, and restartable transfers are done
          automatically, as the program determines if the remote
          station supports these features. Partially complete
          files have a text header that makes it easy to determine
          which files are only partially received.

      o   Conferences can be started remotely, allowing your
          station to be a conference server. Users can switch
          conferences, start new conferences, and leave the
          conference and remain connected if desired. They can
          also send messages directly to other stations in the
          same or different conference.

      o   Remote commands, including user defined commands in CMD
          files.  This allows you to create a file server, ANSI
          pic server, radio mods server and more. The ability to
          create commands that remote users can issue opens a
          whole new set of outlets for for your programming
          creativity.

      o   Morse messages can be directed to an Ad-Lib compatible
          sound card. Also, CW pitch can be set by the user, both
          user options are in the SETUP area.

      o   Network View lines now show headers in low-video, and
          text in high-video, making it easier to distinguish
          headers from text. This is done automatically.

Clint

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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Sampson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Prog
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 22:51:43
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clint Bradford) writes:

>RM>I would like to use Windows 3.11 on Packet.

>There's no better packet program than KaGOLD v9.xx, IMHO!

Here's what I know about KAGOLD.

I bought version 7.xx and it kept blowing me to DOS.  I called
the company and they said that RF does that.  I asked them if
it was a product designed to work with RF, and they said yes.
So only my RF causes it to blow to DOS, I asked...

Anyway after the typical runaround they told me I needed to
get version 8.xx.  So I called their BBS and it said I wasn't
authorized.  In order to get version 8 I would have to purchase
a new product.  So I called them again and said, I want to keep
version 7, just ship me a bug fix.  Nope, they said, we fix bugs
and then sell a new version.  (words to that effect).

It's been several years, but that's the last I cared to know about
KAGOLD.  During those two years I think they've had about
50 versions.  So as long as you want to upgrade twice a month,
I'd say have at it.

I have one in my junk box that I can't even give away because
my callsign is software protected into it.  I guess I'll just format
it one of these days and put some Linux stuff on it :-)

--
Steve



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:54 1995
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Program
Date: 23 Sep 1995 21:57:45 GMT
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[e-mail] (J. Miner) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I would like to use Windows 3.11 on Packet.  Right Now I'm using paKet
>6.1. with the KPC3.  I would like to know what full feature Packet
>Terminal programs are avable and and what other people are using.  Would
>you please give me some suggestion and where I can get the program from!
>
>Thanks and 73,
>Jon N2XFZ
>
Might I suggest "PacketPeT For Windows". It is a full featured
product written in high performance C language (unlike other
products written in Visual Basic or Toolbook...), and is in
it's forth year of development. The most recent version is 2.1,
and the shareware release PacketPeT Lite can be obtained on
CIS, AOL, and at various net sights such as ftp.qrz.com..

Most hardware TNCs are supported, and the KPC3 is on the list.
Rather than brag on it's features, I will just let you download
it and give it a test drive. Keep in mind the Lite version does
not have all of the features of the full version, and that
further improvements are currently being developed / tested.

73 Chuck
Chuck Harrington Software, Inc.
PacketPeT For Windows!




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Windows Terminal Program
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:16:50 GMT
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On Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:33:07, [e-mail] (Steve Sampson) wrote:

>ftp.qrz.com is worthless as a site.  They don't allow PPP or SLIP
>based accounts.

I just tried it, and got in immediately.  Perhaps there is something
wrong with your software or service provider, or perhaps QRZ just doesn't
like your attitude.

I was using a PPP connection, by the way.

>About as useful as tits on a man...  "We refuse" What a crock.

They have their uses - sorry you haven't discovered them.


----------------------------
Jack Hamilton    [e-mail]
Sacramento, California   USA
kd6ttl@n0ary  1992 BMW K75RT



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 25 19:31:56 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel `HB9VBC' Pfund)
Subject: winGT FTP site anywhere???
Message-ID: <1995Sep25.134202.1@ugun2a>
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Sender: [e-mail]
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 11:42:02 GMT

Does anyone know a site where I can FTP WinGT for the ibm clones?

Thanks

Daniel
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