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Subject: OS/2 Discussion Forum 911004
Reply-To: Moderated discussion forum on OS/2 <OS2@BLEKUL11.BITNET>
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OS/2 Discussion Forum Mon, October 28, 1991 Volume 9110 Issue 04
Relevant addresses :
submissions : OS2@BLEKUL11.BITNET (bitnet)
OS2@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be (domain)
subscriptions : LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (bitnet)
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moderator : OS2MOD@BLEKUL11.BITNET (bitnet)
os2mod@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be (domain)
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Today's topics:
New files on LISTSERVer
OS/2 1.3 on AT-Bus-Harddisk based PC
OS2 and IDE drives...
Feed from the Usenet (UUCP/Internet) comp.os.os2.* newsgroups :
RE: Congratulations to Lotus!
Re: OS/2 2.0 running Windows apps
Re: PMWord pulled from OS/2
Positive Press in Byte
Good experience with DeScribe
Re: Another OS/2 article in the NYT (pricing, short)
Re: Positive Press in Byte
OS/2 2.0 at Las Vegas FTN
Re: Entry Level v Advanced LAN Server
C++ compilers, IBM and ZORTECH
Re: OS/2 2.0 at Las Vegas FTN
Re: C++ compilers, IBM and ZORTECH
Lotus Freelance Graphics fix for OS/2 2.0
Re: Prerelease of OS/2 v2.0
Re: Prerelease of OS/2 v2.0
Re: OS/2 2.0 running Windows apps
Microsoft Claims OS/2 Will Grow Faster Than Windows!
Re: OS2's WorkPlace Shell and Norton Desktop for Windows.
Re: Passing parameters to programs
Re: Windows NT vs. OS/2 2.0
Re: Windows NT vs. OS/2 2.0
Windows 4.0 and Windows NT
Re: Windows NT vs. OS/2 2.0
Re: Microsoft Claims OS/2 Will Grow Faster Than Windows!
OS/2 SCSI
Re: Micro$oft dropping OS/2 SDK support
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 91 12:00:00 +0200
From: Moderator of OS/2 Discussion Forum
Subject: New files on LISTSERVer
This is a list of new or updated OS/2 related files available from the
LISTSERV of the OS/2 Discussion Forum at BLEKUL11.
* IBM EMEA Announcement Letters 22 Oct 91
* EMEA = Europe, Middle-East & Africa
filename filetype Remarks
-------- -------- -------------------------------
DDCS ZIPXXE Distributed Database Connection Services/2 v1.0
EXTD ZIPXXE Extended Services v1.0
LSV2 ZIPXXE Lan Server v2.0
OASAS ZIPXXE OASAS I v1.0
OS2V2 ZIPXXE OS/2 v2.0
TAPE ZIPXXE PS/2 Internal Tape Backup Program v2.0
TOOLSV2 ZIPXXE OS/2 V2.0 Tools for Application Development
* List of vendors who have committed to write 32 bit OS/2 apps
filename filetype Remarks
-------- -------- -------------------------------
32BIT VENDORS 32 bit OS/2 Apps vendors
* OS/2 Frequent Asked Questions
filename filetype Remarks
-------- -------- -------------------------------
FAQ16 ZIPXXE OS/2 Frequent Asked Questions v1.6
* Files distributed via comp.os.os2.bin
filename filetype Remarks
-------- -------- -------------------------------
STVI369G PACKAGE Stevie vi clone version 3.69
TOOLS50 PACKAGE Set of every-day-tools by Kai Uwe Rommel
ZIP10X PACKAGE Compression and file packaging utility
Some of the available files come in - what is called - a package. If
you request such package you will automatically receive all necesarry
files. The zipxxe (XXencoded ZIP) files that you will receive must be
concatenated into one large ZIPXXE file by means of the COPY command.
(example : copy x.zipxxe1 + x.zipxxe2 x.zipxxe)
To use this large ZIPXXE file you must first XXdecode (We recommend our
own version of XXdecode which works under OS/2) and UNZIP (We recommend
PKZIP also under OS/2) it.
Note: Use PKUNZIP -d to unzip ||
These files are distributed AS IS, we can not guarantee anything about
their working.
We still welcome all OS/2 related files for distribution on our LISTSERV.
Send your files to OS2@BLEKUL11.BITNET / OS2@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be
we will arrange everything for distribution.
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 91 13:57:34 CET
From: Volkmar Hinz <HINZ@DMDTU11>
Subject: OS/2 1.3 on AT-Bus-Harddisk based PC
Hello,
I teach the students how they have to program with OS/2.
Therefore I have an important question:
How can I install OS/2 1.3 on an AT-Bus-Harddisk which works
in translate mode (for example ST1239A).
The OS/2 installation program knows the disk but is can't
access it.
Is it necessary to use the harddisk in native mode ?
I enjoy in a quick answer if it is possible for you.
Please contact me under HINZ@DMDTU11.bitnet.
Thank you very much in advance
Volkmar Hinz
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 91 19:59:33 MEZ
From: Klaus Hahn <I3160901@DBSTU1>
Organization: University of Braunschweig, Germany
Subject: OS2 and IDE drives...
I just tried to install OS2 1.3 EE on a non-blue 386-class
machine with an IDE drive, and the installation stopped with
an error message stating that FDISK couldn't locate any hard
drives. Tried different formating and partitioning schemes, but
no way. DOES THIS MEAN that OS2 will not recognize IDE drives
(just after I recovered from a deep depression when I had to
learn that SCSI is not supported) ??? What the hell IS supported
by OS2 ? Single-sided floppies with 160 kb ? 64 kb RAM ? Mono-
chrome 40x16 screens ? Cassette drives ???
Oh, gimme a break!
Klaus.
Klaus Hahn
Dept. of Psychology
Spielmannstr. 19
D-33oo Braunschweig, Germany
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Feed from the Usenet (UUCP/Internet) comp.os.os2.* newsgroups :
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From: William Flusek <FLUSEKW@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: Congratulations to Lotus!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 91 17:12:45 EST
I talked to Lotus the other day about getting a patch to let me load
Freelance Graphics for OS/2 in the OS/2 2.0 beta release and in the
conversation was told that they are working on a new version of that
product also.
By the way, they do have a patch to let you load the old version of
Freelance in 2.0. (The old version gives you an error saying that it
requires version 1.2 or newer.)
Bill Flusek, Indiana University
Internet: flusekw@ucs.indiana.edu
Bitnet: flusekw@iubacs
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From: daneshs@nhbvm7.vnet.ibm.com ("Sassan Danesh")
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 running Windows apps
Date: 23 Oct 91 06:15:57 GMT
: I sent this article yesterday, but it doesn't seem to have got
: through...
johnhall@microsoft.UUCP (John Hall) writes:
>OS/2 2.0 will include a copy of windows modified to be a DPMI
>client. To run a Windows 3.0 application: start a VDM, start
>Windows 3.0, then start the app.
The above is totally true... and also irrelevant. As you would expect, you
really don't have to do any of the above to run a Windows application
under OS/2 2.0. Here are some easier ways:
1. Start the windows app from an OS/2 session (Windows support automatic).
2. Start the windows app from a DOS session, preceding the command with
"WINOS2 ". (This kicks off Windows support)
3. Double-click on a windows app from the workplace shell. (Windows support
automatic).
4. Double-click on a windows app from a Windows session. (Windows support
automatic).
All the above methods are available in the current 6.167 driver. In
the final release, (3) and (4) will merge on the integrated desktop.
>You know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about.
John, please stick around these newsgroups. You will have the opportunity
to improve your manners by observing us IBMers.
Sassan Danesh,
Product + Revenue Planning, IBM UK
**********************************************************************
* Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss, but Uncertainty is Hell! *
**********************************************************************
Disclaimer: All my comments are my own and completely independent of my
employer.
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Organization: Penn State ACA (American Churl Association)
Date: Wednesday, 23 Oct 1991 13:59:42 EDT
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: PMWord pulled from OS/2
In article <1991Oct22.184622.1207@hemlock.cray.com>, bgm@hemlock.cray.com (Bert
Moshier) says:
>
> - Porting their 16 bit OS/2 version to be a 32 bit OS/2 version. The
> 2/4 weeks was in converting to 32 bit not migrating/converting to
> both 32 bit and OS/2.
Interestingly enough, when I ported a small OS/2 16 bit program I wrote to
Windows 3.0, I found that 90% of the changes I had to make were things like
changing the order of the arguments in a function call. Why would Microsoft
make their Windows 3.0 API's so identical to PM's, yet with that one
annoying little change? I eventually just started using a smart search 'n'
replace utility (CreateWindow -> WinCreateWindow, etc.) and got the project
done in no time.
Michael E. Dahmus MXD118@PSUVM or dahmus@cs.psu.edu
504 Beaver Hall Phone 862-5141 OS/2 2.0 - the future arrives 4Q 1991!
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From: sip1@quads.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Positive Press in Byte
Date: 23 Oct 91 21:00:24 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago
The latest issue of Byte (November) contains some extremely positive
press on OS/2 2.0 (vs. Windows 3.0). It is worth a look.
--
Timothy F. Sipples sip1@quads.uchicago.edu
(Keeper of the OS/2 FAQ List, avail. via anonymous Department of Economics
ftp from mims-iris.waterloo.edu, directory "new") University of Chicago
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From: terence@ttidca.TTI.COM (Terence Davis)
Subject: Good experience with DeScribe
Date: 24 Oct 91 00:16:10 GMT
Organization: Citicorp/TTI, Santa Monica
I heard about the DeScribe beta program and received it about three weeks
ago. I thought I'd share my experience with it and the company.
I've since written two documents and some one page memos. This is
a good program. It's been written for OS/2 since it's inception and
makes good use of threads. I can do a save/load and immediately control is
returned to the user. Same with printing and import/export. I've been
able to import WordPerfect for OS/2 files with no loss of information
and even graphics, including GIF and GEM files. Although when I tried
to import a GEM file with the wrong filter I got a Trap error and abort.
There's a real useful text tool window that floats around the main window
with all the text possibilities (bold, underline, super/sub script, fonts
and sizes) and that can be hidden with a click of the right mouse button.
This is a nice feature!!! The same is true of the graphics support, which
is extensive. Although not a drawing package it has many of the features
of one.
DeScribe has the concept of an object. Either text or graphic. You give
it a name and can switch between them with a click. It's possible to
position the object on the page with either a dialog box or just by
sizing and placing with the mouse. Also a nice touch.
In addition, I got a call from DeScribe today asking me how I liked the
beta and to inform me that the software has been generally released.
This is very impressive. I ordered the upgrade on the spot. They even
saved me the shipping charges.
DeScribe Inc. really wants to succeed with this product. Their software
is excellent and they actually called me. Microsoft, Borland and
MathSoft never did that!
I highly recommend this software. Currently, it's the only PM based
word processor available (now that MS recalled PMWord, no big loss).
Terry (terence@ttidca.tti.com)
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From: bhenning@wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Henning)
Subject: Re: Another OS/2 article in the NYT (pricing, short)
Organization: Wimsey Associates
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1991 02:31:21 GMT
Actually the preliminary pricing information I have seen on the
development kit is VERY high. I don't think they want individuals
at home developing for OS/2 2.0.
Did I not see rumours flying in this group about the development
tools going to be priced aggressively precisely to encourage small
developers?
I am EXTREMELY dissapointed.
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From: brooke@cco.caltech.edu (Brooke Paul Anderson)
Subject: Re: Positive Press in Byte
Date: 24 Oct 91 03:26:13 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Yep, the Nov., 1991 also has the first OS/2 v2.0 ad I've seen. Not
a bad ad either -- they even talk about getting v1.3 now and getting
v2.0 for free later.
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From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: OS/2 2.0 at Las Vegas FTN
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1991 08:02:43 GMT
Straight off the IBM NCS BBS:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Message : 4350 (OS/2 Version 2 (Beta Test) ) Date... : 10/21/91 (9:54 Pm)
From... : Robert Cannon Refer.. : None
To..... : All Sec'ty. : Public
Subject : OS/2 Live in Vega FTN Rec'vd. : No
A report about the Las Vegas FTN:
For those customers who based schedules on the end-of-the-year shipping
date for OS/2 2.0, a limited edition version will be available with the
functionality that was originally promised for that date (Windows in
seperate session, multiple DOS boxes, etc..). Those customers will not
have to pay until the final version of OS/2 2.0 ships in March.
New enhancements: Integrated PM desktop (Windows programs on PM desktop),
32-bit PM for 45% better performance (whereas some portions of PM were
originally going to be 16-bit), better LAN managent (demonstration had OS/2
connected to LAN Server, Novell, and Banyan servers).
Multiple-Language support built in to base code. A simple selection will
change EVERYTHING to support new language. Kanji and double-byte support
will follow in 60-90 days.
Extended Services will feature two packages. One is Extended Services for
single user ($595), the other is Extended Services for Servers ($1995 for
server, $75 for each client).
Retail price of OS/2 2.0 is $195 and additional licenses are $149.
Announcement of Lutus 1-2-3 for OS/2 2.0.
36 system vendors (clone makers) are currently supported under OS.2 2.0.
An OS/2 chess game was demonstrated as one of the games. The neat thing
was that you can play another player over the network.
The applets include: Spreadsheet, database, To-Do List, Calc, PM Chart,
Tune Editor, Calendar, Alarms and Planner.
OS/2 2.0 takes from 15-30MB of hard disk space and runs "very, very well in
4MB".
The demonstrator selected 6 programs out of the task list and selected Tile
from a menu. Those 6 (and no others) were all tiled.
OS/2 will have free phone support for the first sixty days. I have a
handout that says 24 months!
Two for-fee services are also available. One is oriented toward single
users and small business and includes additional applets. The other covers
Extended Services and LAN Server.
There will be Hercules support in OS/2 2.0 (for those who just won't switch
to VGA).
There was a demonstration of the "seamless" Windows, but other than that,
all features are in the current beta (6.167).
Fairly impressive.
--
John H. Kim | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever
uunet!jarthur!jokim | to use as a disclaimer)
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From: daneshs@nhbvm7.vnet.ibm.com ("Sassan Danesh")
Subject: Re: Entry Level v Advanced LAN Server
Date: 24 Oct 91 10:22:38 GMT
RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at (FLATSCHER Rony) writes:
>Does this mean that OS/2 v2.0 SE does **not** have a 32-bit,
>optimized HPFS-driver ????
The HPFS386 file system is *not* the standard FS for OS/2 2.0. This is
because it is heavily customised for the server environment.
My understanding (and perhaps someone else can expand on this), is
that the HPFS driver contains 16-bit code in the first release of
OS/2 ver 2. Ofcourse, from the application programmer's viewpoint,
all FS APIs are fully 32-bit. ie when the 16-bit code is taken out, it
will occur behind the covers.
Hope this helps.
Sassan Danesh,
Product + Revenue Planning, IBM UK
**********************************************************************
* Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss, but Uncertainty is Hell! *
**********************************************************************
Disclaimer: All my comments are my own and completely independent of my
employer.
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From: martin@minster.york.ac.uk
Subject: C++ compilers, IBM and ZORTECH
Date: 24 Oct 91 11:00:39 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
kassarji@spot.Colorado.edu says:
>
> In article <49085@cup.portal.com> Ramesh_Rama_Pendakur@cup.portal.com writes:
> >I might be off on the subject, but I would very much like to know id there
> >a C++ compiler available for OS/2. In my attempts to find one I have talked
> ...
> >Thanks in advance for the support.
> >- Alex -
>
> The following excerpt is from an article posted in comp.os.os2.misc, edited
> with regards to C++ compilers. ...
>
>
> >From: stirling@winvmb.vnet.ibm.com (Ian Stirling)
> >Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
> >Subject: OS/2 Applications
>
> >Following is the list of vendors who have committed to write 32 bit apps:
>
> >Enjoy...
>
> >BORLAND C ++, 408-438-8400
> >FRONTLINE SOFTWARE GROUP INC. C++ LIBRARIES 417-326-6771
> >IBM CORP C SET/2, DEV WORKFRAME/2 IBM MARKETING
> >SOFTWARE MIGRATIONS INC. GNU C 801-628-9075
> >TBL ENTERPRIZES PUBLIC DOMAIN C++ CLASS FOR PM 404-932-1222
> >V2 CORP. VIZUAL C 801-595-1352
> >WATCOM FORTRAN-77, C 519-886-3700
> >WESTERN WARES C++ RIDER 303-327-4898
>
> >Cheers,
> >Ian Stirling stirling@winvmb.vnet.ibm.com
> >CICS/ESA Systems Facilities ian@stirling.hursley.ibm.com
>
> >Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
As was pointed out elsewhere, ZORTECH have also stated that they intend to
introduce an OS/2 v2 C++ compiler, and that they should be able to do this
fairly quickly, since they already do 32-bit code generation.
My Question/point is, why did ZORTECH not appear in the list posted by
Ian Stirling? This is at least the second time that I have seen something
from IBM ignore ZORTECH. As an ex-IBMer I hope this is not official policy
since I would regard this as extremely shabby behaviour! Please IBM, you can't
afford to ignore supporters, even if they are competitors to people (ie
Borland) that you have announced deals with!
(Perhaps in this case I should point out that I have no connection with
Zortech, except as a happy user of their version 3.0 C++ compiler on OS/2
version 1.3)
Martin
usenet: ...!mcsun!uknet!minster!martin
JANET: martin@uk.ac.york.minster
INTERNET: martin%minster.york.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
surface:
Dr. Martin C. Atkins
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Heslington
York YO1 5DD
ENGLAND
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From: adkinsgp@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Garry Adkins)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 at Las Vegas FTN
Date: 25 Oct 91 04:10:22 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
In article <goldberg.688329167@du139-209.cc.iastate.edu> goldberg@iastate.edu
(Adam Goldberg) writes:
>In <1991Oct24.080243.18284@muddcs.claremont.edu> jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu
>(John H. Kim) writes:
>> [...]
>>There will be Hercules support in OS/2 2.0 (for those who just won't switch
>>to VGA).
>
>
> H O O R A Y!
>
>I didn't want to invest in VGA, and now I don't have to!!! Yippie!
I'm not convinced that Lee understood the question.... When I was watching,
he never said "Hercules" directly. He simply stated that there would be
many vendor's drivers included with the GA release. He implied that Hercules
would have to write the driver, and I understand that they would refuse,
because of the zillions of herc clone cards that they would be developing for.
They don't sell many (any?) herc mono cards any more. (I don't know for sure,
but I felt I should add my $.02 ).
Although the question *DID* state hercules explicitly. I just wasn't very
convinced. :-(
Garry
>--
> Adam Goldberg ! "I can see your point, but you're still full
> goldberg@iastate.edu ! of shit." -- Button worn by Tom Petty during
> tabu6@isuvax.BITNET ! a recent Rolling Stone interview.
> #include <disclaimer> !
--
Garry Adkins adkinsg@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
419 Harrison St. Voice: (317) 743-8006
W. Lafayette, IN 47906 Data: (317) 743-2594
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From: adkinsgp@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Garry Adkins)
Subject: Re: C++ compilers, IBM and ZORTECH
Date: 25 Oct 91 04:40:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
In article <1991Oct25.001936.9829@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com> ford@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com
(Dan Ford) writes:
>bgm@hemlock.cray.com (Bert Moshier) writes:
>>
>> Now if the Workplace Shell would only let me do my work, I won't be even
>> thinking of days gone by. APPLICATION and END-USER EDUCATION PROTECTION
>> ARE A MUST IF ONE WISHES THEIR DEFINITION OF THE FUTURE TO BE SUCCESSFUL!
>> DIDN'T THE SYSTEM/360 AND THE OS/2 1.X LINE TEACH IBM THAT FACT OF LIFE?
>
>Could you be more specific. I have seen several of your posts indicating
>your disatisfaction with the Workplace Shell, but you have not described any
>of the problems. Could you do so in more detail? I'm curious, and anxious.
>
Sorry bert! I'm gonna jump in here too!
I have fought the Workplace shell for a day now, and am beginning to
understand it somewhat. My biggest complaint was the lack of menu-bars
anywhere on the screen! When it boots up the first time, it also opens every
darn folder that you have! I thought the little [] symbol was closing
everything, but I was wrong. You have to double click the left side thingie.
The [] only "hides" stuff. It's virtually impossible to navigate, and
completely foreign to me. It also uses the right mouse button too much.
Here are some pointers for you when you get it: (I'm posting, hoping
to save everone some time, I wish someone else had done this before *I* got
the damn thing!)
1) Go through the tutorial! You think you know how to work a mouse, but you
dont!
2) Use the master index A LOT. Some stuff has new terminology, so you
just have to keep looking, but eventually you'll find what you're after.
3) The *RIGHT* button is used for dragging, the left for selecting. CTRL-
RIGHT_BUTTON copies, it does not move.
4) Use the templates to set up you're apps. It's too hard any other way.
the templates are in a folder that is at the bottom of your screen.
5) Don't flow the icons on the desktop. They shoot off the top of the screen
and you can't get to them. You have to "un-flow" them.
6) To pull up a menu, make the window active, (right button) and then
click the left button on a clear spot in the window.
7) To change the settings on an icon, (they're now like a combined icon
and pif in win3) select the icon (rt button) and the press the left
button, go to the open menu, click (rt button) the -> and go to settings.
This was one of the hardest things for me to figure out.
8) To pull up the window list (like the task manager sort of) press
*BOTH* the right and left buttons at the same time on the desktop.
9) Workplace shell defaults to one program per icon, so you can't start
two dos boxes by clicking on the dos prompt twice. It'll just take
you back to the active dos box. You can change this by going:
OS/2system folder -> system setup folder -> system folder ->
windows. You then change it to be each window give new view.
10) Double click the left hand symbol on a window to close it, the next to
last one on the right for "hiding" the window, and the far right for
toggle between maximize and minimize window.
I hope this helps and gets you off to a running start!
Garry Adkins.
(feel free to email if you have more questions, I will hopefully know more
soon!)
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Ford
>Hewlett-Packard
>McMinnville, OR
>
>email: ford@mcm.hp.com
--
Garry Adkins adkinsg@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
419 Harrison St. Voice: (317) 743-8006
W. Lafayette, IN 47906 Data: (317) 743-2594
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From: daneshs@nhbvm7.vnet.ibm.com ("Sassan Danesh")
Subject: Lotus Freelance Graphics fix for OS/2 2.0
Date: 28 Oct 91 08:27:18 GMT
Here's a note in an internal bulleting board on the fixes necessary
to get FL/G to install under OS/2 2.0. Note that FL/G *runs* fine
without modification. It just won't *install*!
Installing on Version 2.0 of OS/2
---------------------------------
To fix your FL/G disks to install under OS/2 V2 you must patch
the Install.exe file on the INSTALL disk.
********MAKE A BACKUP COPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
********DO THIS Patch on the BACKUP!!!!!
Use DISKCOPY A: A:
Ignore the error msg (if any) about bad track 1 sector 79.
On the backup disk:
-A:\-patch install.exe
Patching install.exe
End of file is at 29DE0
Enter the hexadecimal offset of patch: 409
00000409 C9 DB 2C 02 01 06 00 04 20 00 7D 10 00 03 00 00 ..,..... .}.
***** Change the first C9 to B5 as follows:
00000409 B5 DB 2C 02 01 06 00 04 20 00 7D 10 00 03 00 00 ..,..... .}.
Do you want to continue patching install.exe? (Y/N) Y
End of file is at 29DE0
Enter the hexadecimal offset of patch: E0D
00000E0D 14 73 18 1E 68 B6 01 1E 68 EC 01 9A 74 02 59 08 .s..h...h...
******Change the 14 to 00 as follows:
00000E0D 00 73 18 1E 68 B6 01 1E 68 EC 01 9A 74 02 59 08 .s..h...h...
Do you want to continue patching install.exe? (Y/N) N
Patches entered for install.exe
00000409 B5 DB 2C 02 01 06 00 04 20 00 7D 10 00 03 00 00 ..,..... .}.
00000E0D 00 73 18 1E 68 B6 01 1E 68 EC 01 9A 74 02 59 08 .s..h...h...
Do you want these patches applied to install.exe? (Y/N)Y
Patches applied to install.exe
You can now use the backup disk to install FL/G on OS/2 V2.
Hope this is of help.
Sassan Danesh,
Product + Revenue Planning, IBM UK
**********************************************************************
* Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Bliss, but Uncertainty is Hell! *
**********************************************************************
Disclaimer: All my comments are my own and independent of my employer.
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From: teverett@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Prerelease of OS/2 v2.0
Date: 25 Oct 91 20:14:01 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
I have ben following the latest news on the December prerelease with
great enthusiasm. I promptly called the IBM OS/2 Hotline, and found out some
interesting stuff:
According to the best information they had at the Hotline, the December
prerelease is ONLY for comapnies and corporations that were on a specific
timeline requiring that OS/2 v 2.0 deliver by the end of December. If you are
not on of those lucky companies, you are out of luck. This may not be valid,
as they are still getting information at the hotline. I mentioned the various
dumps of the IBM NCS BBS, and the rep said they didn't have access to that at
that location. I promptly printed out the items and mailed them to the rep,
hoping he could make use of them.
When I reread the first release carefully, I came across the line: "For
those customers who based schedules on the end-of-the-year shipping
date for OS/2 2.0, a limited edition version will be available with the
functionality that was originally promised for that date.." In my excitement
over the release, I had assumed that this included me, a college student who
wanted to install and enjoy v 2.0 over Christmas break. No such luck.
Hopefully this situation will change. Please ask IBM to make this release
available to all who strongly desire it. (i.e. enough to ask for it. ) .
--Toby Everett
--teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu
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From: sidney@borland.com (Sidney Markowitz)
Subject: Re: Prerelease of OS/2 v2.0
Date: 26 Oct 91 01:02:03 GMT
Organization: Borland International
In article <1991Oct25.131401.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu>
teverett@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
> According to the best information they had at the Hotline, the December
>prerelease is ONLY for comapnies and corporations that were on a specific
>timeline requiring that OS/2 v 2.0 deliver by the end of December.
According to IBM people on the Compuserve OS/2 forum, this was what IBM
management decided, but they are being told how unhappy it will make many
non-corporate customers, and it looks like they may reconsider.
-- sidney
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From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 running Windows apps
Date: 26 Oct 91 01:42:41 GMT
Organization: The Village Waterbed
In <+8#dt-#@microsoft.UUCP> johnhall@microsoft.UUCP (John Hall) writes:
> In article margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
> | In <1852@ra.MsState.Edu> jtq1@ra.MsState.Edu (Jim Quinlan) writes:
> | > Will OS/2 2.0 run Windows 3.x apps directly, or does OS/2 need to run
> | > Window WHICH THEN runs the Windows app?
> |
> | Directly. OS/2 2.0 only. No need to buy Windows; if you have it, you can
> | throw it away.
>
> You know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about.
I know exactly what I'm talking about. I thought it clear that Mr. Quinlan
(please correct me if I'm wrong, Jim) was asking if he had to purchase a copy
of MS Windows in order to run a Windows application under OS/2. I said:
> OS/2 2.0 only.
Everything you need comes as part of OS/2 2.0.
> | No need to buy Windows;
There's no reason for anyone with a 386 or above to bother with Windows.
johnhall@microsoft.UUCP (John Hall) writes:
> OS/2 2.0 will include a copy of windows modified to be a DPMI
> client. To run a Windows 3.0 application: start a VDM, start
> Windows 3.0, then start the app.
No, you don't know what you're talking about. I said:
> | Directly.
The user starts the Windows application like any OS/2 or DOS application.
OS/2 2.0 takes care of all the intermediate stuff. The user doesn't have
to start a VDM, start Windows, and then start the app; just double-click on
the application's icon and it's off and running.
> True, IBM will include the windows code in OS/2. However, it
> will be Windows code,
It's been somewhat improved; it's not as buggy as Windows 3.0. Native OS/2
applications are still preferable, though; there's only so much you can do to
improve Windows.
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI at YKTVMV (bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (csnet)
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From: sip1@sam.spc.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Microsoft Claims OS/2 Will Grow Faster Than Windows!
Summary: There are lies, damn lies, and Microsoft.
Organization: SSPPCC, University of Chicago
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1991 04:02:51 GMT
In the October 22, 1991, issue of the Wall Street Journal, Microsoft ran an
ad praising Windows.
Some interesting things were published, notably a bar graph entitled "Oper-
ating System Growth." The source was International Data Corp., 1991. Never
mind that Windows is not strictly an operating system and that DOS figures
were not included.
The "Worldwide installed base (in millions)" for both OS/2 and Windows was
listed for 1990 and projected for 1991 and 1992. At the bottom of the
advertisement was the disclaimer, "OS/2 is a registered trademark licensed to
Microsoft Corporation." [By whom? :-)]
Here are the figures:
1990 Windows 9.0 OS/2 0.7
1991 Windows 14.9 OS/2 1.2
1992 Windows 23.2 OS/2 1.9
I dispute these figures below, but note the results when you convert these
to year-on-year percentages:
1991 Windows +65.6% OS/2 +71.4%
1992 Windows +55.7% OS/2 +58.3%
Amazing. :-)
Now for the IDC figures. Note that they seem to conflict with the now famous
claim made in the ad copy, that in slightly over a year since Windows 3.0's
introduction [in May, 1990] Microsoft has shipped over 6 million copies.
If you assume the IDC figures are year end, then Windows pre-3.0 accounted
for something like 10% of PC installations. Now, _maybe_ if you throw in
the copies of Windows 1.x that shipped with those Zenith machines, and the
run time copies that shipped with Excel and Pagemaker, and didn't subtract
them out with Windows 3.0 upgrades you might get close to the numbers above.
The OS/2 numbers seem fairly realistic in 1990 and 1991. However, the 1992
figure is extremely pessimistic. Note that all existing OS/2 users (the 1.2
million projected for year end 1991) are eligible for (essentially) a
free OS/2 2.0 upgrade. Thus IDC essentially predicts only 700,000 copies of
OS/2 2.0 shipped in 1992. Never mind that IBM will likely bundle OS/2 2.0
with every PS/2 sold, and IBM is rapidly phasing out 286 and 8088/6 PS/2s.
Even if IBM does not sell a single nonbundled copy of OS/2 2.0 the number of
units sold will easily exceed 700,000 (based on the volume of PS/2 shipments).
And IDC doesn't seem to be subtracting out upgrades for Windows, but it does
appear to be for OS/2.
Anyway, I thought net readers might enjoy Microsoft's most rosy projections
-- which happen to show OS/2 growing faster than Windows.
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From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: OS2's WorkPlace Shell and Norton Desktop for Windows.
Date: 26 Oct 91 17:59:08 GMT
Organization: The Village Waterbed
In <1991Oct24.110922.20664@hemlock.cray.com>
bgm@hemlock.cray.com (Bert Moshier) writes:
> I agree the Workplace Shell has many new great features which I really love.
> It also has some terminal design flaws when dealing with icons.
Can you be more specific? E.g., by default, if you start a program from an
icon, and then double-click on the hatched icon, it just brings the already
started program to the foreground. However, you can configure it to instead
start another instance of the program. By default, minimized applications
have their icon hidden, but you can configure it to display them on the
desktop. (I don't think the latter part is working in the current beta,
though.)
> IBM NEEDS TO LEARN TO PROTECT PEOPLE'S EXISTING INVESTMENTS IN BOTH
> APPLICATIONS AND EDUCATION! The Workplace Shell takes existing end-users
> down the object oriented path without a migration path!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Note that you *will* be able to configure the WPS to look like the 1.3 PM
shell. (Or, I believe, like Windows.)
> I encourage all IBMers to take my above statements about the Workplace Shell
> seriously.
Personally, I agree with you. I find the WPS frustrating in many ways, and
miss the 1.3 shell. However, a number of people have stated that they started
out feeling the same way, but after an hour or so of use, they "got the hang
of it", and now prefer the new shell. I'm willing to give it a chance.
Who knows - by the time the ability to configure the shell to be like the
old one is in the beta, I might say "Go back to that old stuff? Yuch!" :-)
The WPS is supposed to be a lot easier for new users to learn, and there's a
lot more DOS users than OS/2 1.x users out there. True, we need a migration
path for the 1.x users, but I think you'll agree that it's more important to
get the new shell out there *without* that migration path so that all the
beta testers can start beating on it and finding problems than it would be
to delay release of the new shell until that migration path is there.
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI at YKTVMV (bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (csnet)
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From: schafer@devils.is.rice.edu (Richard Alan Schafer)
Subject: Re: Passing parameters to programs
Date: 28 Oct 91 23:52:43 GMT
Organization: Rice University
In article <1991Oct28.211408.8464@rice.edu>, schafer@devils.is.rice.edu
(Richard Alan Schafer) writes:
> Well, I've finally gotten my hands on the 6.167 drop, and in many ways I'm
> *very* impressed. The release is also *very* unstable, however, so be
> warned.
> One thing I simply haven't been able to figure out: how do I pass parameters
> > to programs being started?
Whoa. Talk about a paradigm shift. I finally realized what's going on, and
it's fascinating. To take an executable that you want to run and run it from
an icon, create a new copy from the Program template, then fill in the
fields like you used to do in the Properties dialog in a group window. The
more I work with the Workplace shell, the more I like it, but the paradigm
is *definitely* different and will take a little getting used to.
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From: bgm@hemlock.cray.com (Bert Moshier)
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. OS/2 2.0
Date: 28 Oct 91 00:08:51 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc., Eagan, MN
In article <1991Oct25.232359.26387@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
dsims@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Sims) writes:
>We all seem to concede that OS/2 1.3 and especially OS/2 2.0 are better
>than Windows 3.0. But what about Windows NT? It sounds like Windows NT
>and OS/2 2.0 will be pretty much the same. Why should Joe User choose
>OS/2 2.0 when Windows NT (seemingly) will have the same features and be
>much more popular?
>--
>...david (dsims@ucunix.san.uc.edu)
David:
A couple of reasons:
A) Windows NT is not yet ready. The SDK is not even out.
TODAY, OS/2 2.0 is on 2 machines I own. This includes a laptop.
B) Steve Balmer of MS say Windows NT will require 8MB and either a 486
or fast 386. OS/2 2.0 runs on a 386SX with 4MB (beta) and 3 MB maybe
at GA.
C) OS/2 2.0 does run DOS and Windows applications. Windows NT's first
release is not suppose to run DOS or 16 bit Windows applications.
D) The Workplace Shell will not be in Windows/NT and when complete it
will really help Joe User! Look at how popular the MAC's interface
is today.
OS/2 2.0 will run not only the Workplace Shell, but a Windows shell,
DOS 4.0 Shell and OS/2 1.x shell (according to the April FTN).
Windows/NT stated direction does not include this type of migration
path for people.
These are 4 reasons/differences.
Bert Mosheir
Cray Research, Inc.
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From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. OS/2 2.0
Date: 28 Oct 91 08:33:03 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
In article <1991Oct25.232359.26387@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
dsims@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Sims) writes:
>We all seem to concede that OS/2 1.3 and especially OS/2 2.0 are better
>than Windows 3.0. But what about Windows NT? It sounds like Windows NT
>and OS/2 2.0 will be pretty much the same. Why should Joe User choose
>OS/2 2.0 when Windows NT (seemingly) will have the same features and be
>much more popular?
>--
>...david (dsims@ucunix.san.uc.edu)
Here's something that just popped up on comp.windows.ms. Read it. As
far as I can tell, except for the 8 MB memory requirement, (standard)
multi-user capability, and (presumably) running on multiple platforms,
it sounds EXACTLY like OS/2 2.0, only OS/2 will be out ~1 year earlier.
Why wait? Because of loyalty to a corporation?
Also note that the bit about long filenames and multi-threading is already
present in OS/2 1.3.
Can somebody who knows a little more about this than I do please inform
the folks in comp.windows.ms about OS/2 again? That's what won me over
back in June.
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Article 19027 of comp.windows.ms:
From: jcwasik@PacBell.COM (Joe Wasik)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Windows 4.0 and Windows NT
Message-ID: <9503@pbhyf.PacBell.COM>
Date: 25 Oct 91 16:03:06 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Lines: 29
Yesterday, here is smokey California there was a technology show in which
Microsoft participated. I saw Windows NT running and was given some specs
on Windows 4.0.
Unfortunately, I walked away with more questions than answers. Apparently,
Windows NT works *with* regular windows instead of replacing it. Windows
NT can optionally be set up as a replacement for DOS so that the machine
bootstraps directly into the Windows Interface.
Windows NT uses something called Multi-threading rather than regular
Window's Multi-tasking. The MS rep did not give a good technical
explanation of the differences. Anyone know?
Also, if you boot into Windows NT, can you stll get a Window with DOS
so that you can use all those DOS utilities that we have grown to love over
the years?
Some other specs:
Windows NT is multi-user.
Windows NT requires a 386 with at least 8 meg.
Windows 4.0 will have an object-oriented file system. Say goodbye to
filenames formatted like xxxxxxxx.xxx
--
Joe Wasik, Pac*Bell, 2600 Camino Ramon, Rm 4E750V, San Ramon, CA (415)823-2422
email: jcwasik@clib.PacBell.COM or [...]!pacbell!clib!jcwasik
"If riding on an airplane is flying, then riding on a boat is swimming"
-- The Parachuters Handbook
--
John H. Kim | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever
uunet!jarthur!jokim | to use as a disclaimer)
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From: ccmk@lure.latrobe.edu.au
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. OS/2 2.0
Date: 28 Oct 91 10:48:17 GMT
Organization: VAX Cluster, Computer Centre, La Trobe University
In article <1991Oct27.152617.18714@microsoft.com>, dant@microsoft.com
(Dan TYACK) writes:
>
> Why would a user choose NT instead of OS/2 2.0?
>
> 1) FUD: IBM has effectively put a gun to the head of OS/2 and pulled the
> trigger with the announcement of the joint development deal with Apple.
> Whatever their future stategic desktop operating system is, IBM has made
> clear that it is not OS/2.
This posting by Dan is interesting. I feel compelled to respond with
my knowledge of the facts (which may be wrong, of course), and I hope
Dan responds where I have made a mistake. Dan, are you referring to
MS's FUD or other FUD? As I understand it, MS didn't want IBM
producing a Lite version of OS/2 (1.3), which competed with Windows.
MS then backed away from OS/2 because of the superior market
penetration of Windows. So, IBM then got upset and so did MS, so that
the long-time relationship degenerated to the point of non-speaking
over the future of Windows vs OS/2, with MS seeing the Windows
interface as the dominant API. IBM didn't like this because it
interefered with SAA plans etc. MS then got pally with ACE, to become
one of the two dominant operating systems. ACE uses MIPS and Intel
chips, wiping out the RS6000 chip, a slap in the face.
Meanwhile, Apple are also out in the cold with the Motorola 88000 (a poor
RISC processor), so IBM says, hey, we don't want legal fights over
Workplace Shell, plus we want better MultiMedia software, so let's
talk to Apple. Apple gets a real RISC chip (plus get Motorola to make
it - amazing!) and IBM gets access to more interesting software.
Apple has stated that there will be a number of operating systems
coming from this deal (way, way in the future, by the way), AIX/AUX,
OS/2 (running on RISC chips) and Pink. The strong suggestion is, if
the partnership lasts that long, that Pink and OS/2 might merge, but
at least keeping the OS/2 API. Thus, OS/2 lives in some form at least
as strongly as Windows does.
Whew! Yeah, there is lot's of FUD, but the future sure sounds
interesting. In no way do I see MS abandoning Windows users nor do I
see IBM doing the same with OS/2. The lead up to this situation is
interesting and somewhat sad, but has really pushed everyone after
years of moribund programming. Although a nightmare for me to
support, I am looking forward to it.
> 2. Compatibility: NT uses a microkernel architecture similar in concept (but
> not in execution) to Mach. It has been designed from the ground up to
> offer compatibility to multiple APIs and OS environments, which are
> supported through multiple subsystems under the base operating system.
It sounds good, and modular operating systems seem to be the future.
> ...I realize that this is all promised
> by OS/2 2.0, but most users will feel more comfortable with a 'Windows based'
> solution, if they have chosen Windows as their GUI.
At the present, and optionally in the future, the Windows GUI at the
user level is much the same on OS/2 and Windows.
> 3. Availability:
Sorry, but MS doesn't inspire any confidence whatsoever with shocking
delays on Windows 3, 3.1, DOS 5 and OS/2 (all versions), and probably
others. However, I'll be looking forward to NT. Seeing a real Windows
single-user operating system run on a MIPS R4000 will be fun! Seeing
OS/2 run on the PowerPC might be even more fun!
Dr Mark Kosten, phone: +61 3 479-1500
Computer Centre, AARNet (internet): ccmk@lure.latrobe.edu.au
La Trobe University,
Bundoora, 3083
Australia
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From: mailinfo@netcom.COM (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Claims OS/2 Will Grow Faster Than Windows!
Date: 29 Oct 91 03:18:51 GMT
Organization: Mail Group
sip1@sam.spc.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
>Some interesting things were published, notably a bar graph entitled "Oper-
>ating System Growth." The source was International Data Corp., 1991. Never
>mind that Windows is not strictly an operating system and that DOS figures
>were not included.
>The "Worldwide installed base (in millions)" for both OS/2 and Windows was
>listed for 1990 and projected for 1991 and 1992. At the bottom of the
>advertisement was the disclaimer, "OS/2 is a registered trademark licensed to
>Microsoft Corporation." [By whom? :-)]
>Here are the figures:
>1990 Windows 9.0 OS/2 0.7
>1991 Windows 14.9 OS/2 1.2
>1992 Windows 23.2 OS/2 1.9
>I dispute these figures below, but note the results when you convert these
>to year-on-year percentages:
>1991 Windows +65.6% OS/2 +71.4%
>1992 Windows +55.7% OS/2 +58.3%
>Amazing. :-)
Yes, and I'll cut that amusing tidbit out and post it right next to my
IDC graph from 1987 claiming that OS/2 now, in 1991, has 85% of the PC
market. It will round out my hall of shame right next to the IDC
estimates from 1986 that claim that TCP/IP no longer exists and we are
all happily networking over OSI.
IDC estimates should be given only slightly greater merit than those
generated in the crystal ball of Frederica The Gypsy Fortune Teller.
Will Estes Internet: mailinfo@netcom.com
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From: mbarkah@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Ade Barkah)
Subject: OS/2 SCSI
Date: 29 Oct 91 14:21:00 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
SUMMARY OF SCSI SUPPORT FOR THE OS/2:
This document summarizes current OS/2 support available for several
SCSI controllers. I wrote this document in a hurry (since many did
request it,) thus corrections are gladly accepted. I will continuously
update this document as more information becomes available to me. I'll
post a detailed document in about a week.
Standard disclaimer apply: The information contained herein may not be
accurate, and I take no responsibility for its usage. The data was
compiled from various sources, including IBM NSC BBS, comp.os.os2.xxxx
newsgroups, as well as support BBSes from several SCSI manufacturers and
their technical support. Please send comments and corrections to
mbarkah@slate.mines.Colorado.edu.
NOTES:
Besides the SCSI controller manufacturer, Columbia Data Products
seems to have the best support (so far) for controllers in terms of
existing and future drivers for OS/2. Besides current Western Digital
support, CDP is planning to release OS/2 1.3 drivers for 25 SCSI
controllers, including those from Always, Adaptec, BusTek and DPT.
However, the drivers will only support single drive systems if
boot-drive (primary) option is to be used.
IBM will directly support many SCSI controllers with the OS/2 2.0 GA in
March (whew, what a relief.) Rumours says the support will be
"exceptional." Always Technologies says that their IN-2000 controller
will be directly supported by the 2.0. However, IBM's OS/2 hotline, as
of this writing, does not have full information about which SCSI
controllers it will support.
ADAPTEC CONTROLLERS
Adaptec support at best has been minimal, although they continue
to advertise OS/2 compatibility. Adaptec was developing the ASPI
for OS/2, it's own solution to the OS/2 SCSI compatibility.
Columbia Data Products will support Adaptec controllers for the
IBM OS/2 1.3 with its January 1992 release.
ALWAYS CONTROLLERS
Always Technology, Inc., has developed an OS/2 1.3 driver for the
IN-2000 controller. However, the driver only supports secondary
(non-boot) drives. The driver can be downloaded from Always' BBS
at (818)597-0275, under the OS/2 Special Interest Group downloads.
Columbia Data Products is will develop a primary (boot) disk
driver for the IN-2000 with its January 1992 release. The driver
will only support single drive systems, however; there must only
be one SCSI hard drive present.
BUSTEK
Drivers are available for the BT-742A EISA SCSI adapter for IBM
OS/2
1.1 through 1.3 and 2.0 beta. The drivers support both the FAT and
HPFS partitions, but only provide disk support. Contact BusTek
directly for ordering information.
CE INFOSYS CONTROLLERS
CEI currently have OS/2 1.1 through 1.3 drivers for its
Microchannel SCSI products. They expect to release bootable
drivers for the AT bus controllers (AT5630 and AT5635) within two
weeks. CEI also plans to release drivers for the OS/2 2.0 within a
month. The company fully supports OS/2, other on-going development
include support of additional devices such as CD-ROMs.
DTC (QUME) CONTROLLERS
Drivers are available for the DTC3280 SCSI controller. Local
dealers carrying DTC products should have complete copies of the
OS/2 drivers. They support both the FAT and the HPFS conventions.
The drivers only supports disks, and will support bootable drives
as long as only one drive is installed in the system. Drivers for
MS OS/2 versions 1.1 through 1.21 and IBM OS/2 1.3 may be
downloaded from DTC's support BBS at (408)-942-4197. One may
also contact their technical support at (408)-262-7700.
FUTURE DOMAIN CONTROLLERS
The MCS-700 (Micro Channel) has drivers available. The driver
supports up to six drives, and provides HPFS capabilities.
OS/2 drivers are also available for the Future Domain 1660 and
1670 SCSI controllers. Future Domain is currently shipping a
DISK01 replacement for OS/2 versions 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3. Note that
the replacement only provides disk support, while a LADDR version
is being developed for the IBM OS/2 1.3 to support additional SCSI
devices (tape, Cd-Rom, etc.)
SEAGATE CONTROLLERS
So far, Seagate has elected not to support OS/2. Therefore, no
Seagate SCSI controllers (such as the ST01/B and the ST02) may be
used with OS/2. At this time, Columbia Data Products does not
plan to release a driver for the Seagate controllers in its
January release.
WESTERN DIGITAL
The Western Digital SCSI 7000 FAAST has OS/2 1.3 drivers
available from Columbia Data Products. They have had the drivers
since February, and have also developed a HPFS support of the 1.3.
The driver reportedly works flawlessly, but the installation
procedure was difficult.
Mahendra Barkah Internet: mbarkah@slate.mines.colorado.edu
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From: goldberg@iastate.edu (Adam Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Micro$oft dropping OS/2 SDK support
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1991 14:32:53 GMT
There was some discussion here about Microsoft dropping support for their $2000
OS/2 SDK, and offering a $750 rebate. I found a related article yesterday,
and thought it might be of interest.
>From ComputerWorld, Oct 28, 1991 (p. 110)
Microsoft recently sent out letters stating that it will no longer support its
OS/2 2.0 SDK after Febuary 1992. Microsoft claims IBM has not been supplying
it with components of the SDK "in timely fashion" and offeres owners of the SDK
two options: Receive the Windows 3.1 SDK [oh boy], the next release of C,
when it becomes available, as well as enrollment in the beta-test program,
or accept a refund check of $750.
At least one [two, there was one here...] recipient is unhappy. William
Langlais, project coordinator at Hartke-Hanks Data Technologies in Billerica,
Mass., sent a letter back to Microsoft suggesting the company either turn
over its SDK program to IBM or supply a refund of [!!] $2000, >>>"Which
should be enough for my company to buy the tools from other sources."<<<
--
Adam Goldberg ! "I can see your point, but you're still full
goldberg@iastate.edu ! of shit." -- Button worn by Tom Petty during
tabu6@isuvax.BITNET ! a recent Rolling Stone interview.
#include <disclaimer> !
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