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- <f1><c000> KNOCKIN' TO THE DOOR
- OF ATARI SCENE
- <f0> THEY about US
- report by grey / mystic bytes
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- Hmmm... Is it possible to take a fancy to the community of the PC scene? Or
- "Is it possible to become a friend with Bin Laden"? - you could ask as well.
- For many of our sceners the PC is a major enemy. Our little world is gathering
- great blokes who support Atari machines, ignoring the mainstream around. But
- did you ever wonder what they would tell or write about us seeing what's still
- happening on atari scene? Could we read ironic stuff from infatuated PC sceners
- calling us cavemen or something like that?
-
- Someday I got a surprising reply to these questions...
-
- While browsing the net I visited the site hosted by Mr Byte/TFTE and I found an
- interesting news item called "Hugi writes about Atari scene". Hmmm, let's check
- it out then!
-
- <link=g37.scr>"Hugi"</l> turned out to be a pc disk-mag containing the article titled "Latest
- Developments in the Atari Diskmags Scene". It's written by Adok, the friendly
- PC bloke who already tried to get in touch with Atari community some time ago.
-
- Ok, so what can we find in the previously mentioned article? Well, at the
- beginning, Adok wrote a short story about Atari that was a great idea to
- introduce pc sceners to our world. Don't forget that many of them don't know
- too much about Atari in general.The age of potential sceners who start to code,
- paint or compose is 15 years (just like Yonek/Shadows, Darth/PNM, Sqward/MSB)
- and PC would be their first machine they've met with...
-
- The next lines are dedicated to the world of atari diskmags. I have to admit
- that for a non-atari scener this article is written so smoothly and many of our
- writers would be ashamed seeing how a PC bloke is initiated to the affairs of
- Atari scene - maximum respect, Adok!
-
- Such people as the author of the article show that it's possible to take
- a fancy to the PC community. At least to some of them. Apart from Adok, I know
- Riven and Simon King from The Loop who were always willing to help me out
- with Atari-related stuff and repeated to be "PROUD being a part of the Atari
- scene". They didn't care that I am not interested with things happening on
- the PC scene! So maybe we should try to break our aversion to the PC community?
-
- If you ever search for a helpful hand - try to ask someone from the PC scene
- like Adok. I am ready to make a bet you will get what you want without flooding
- various bulletin boards of atari sites :o)
-
- Don't forget to read the interview with Adok in the "Famous bodies get naked"
- column.
-
- Here comes the original article cut from the Hugi diskmag!
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- Latest Developments in the
- Atari Diskmags Scene
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- Adok/Hugi
-
-
- In these days in which not a lot of diskmags are released in the whole scene,
- it becomes yet more interesting to take a close look at the few who have not
- left us, regardless of the platform for which they are released. On the
- occasion of the recent release of Undercover Magascene #22 (in the middle of
- April 2002), I've taken a peek on the recent development and the current state
- of the Atari diskmag scene.
-
- "Atari scene", that's a term that comprises the demomakers active on such
- different platforms as the ST, a 16-bit computer from the middle 1980s which
- once was the most fierce competitor of the Commodore Amiga, the Falcon,
- a newer architecture which made serious trouble for 486s in the early 1990s,
- and the Jaguar, which was the first 64-bit video game console ever - it had
- already been established three years before the development of the Nintendo 64.
-
- Since ST programs can be run on Falcon and PC too, in the latter case using
- a free emulator such as PaCiFiST or SainT (available at Little Green Desktop),
- most diskmags are still based on ST shells. In fact, as we will shortly see,
- there are two mags using a rather old engine that has seen hardly any changes
- since 1998. Due to this, graphics and sound capabilities are restricted; the
- clear focus of most Atari diskmags is the content. However, there are also
- a few Falcon mags. As far as I know, there is hardly any active Atari demomaker
- who does not own a Falcon, so the number of people from the target group who
- are unable to read them is rather small, but of course ex-Atari users and those
- who've never had an Atari won't be able to read these mags using their PCs.
-
- Three years ago, we had the first Atari Diskmags Report i n Hugi, to be more
- precise Hugi #14. Back then there were two major magazines, the Undercover
- Magazine (UCM), which had already reached issue 14 as well, and Maggie, of
- which 26 issues had seen the light of the day thus far. The first being
- published in Germany, the second in England, both had international
- contributors, were targeted at an international readership and featured in the
- former case mostly and in the latter case only articles in the English
- language. Furthermore, there was another active diskmag, Toxic Magazine. But
- this one was en Francais and not intended to address anyone outside la Grande
- Nation.
-
- Similar to other magazines at other platforms at other times, UCM and Maggie
- were struggling to become leaders in the scene.Of course this was not a serious
- struggle, it was a competition driven by fun. The answer to the question of who
- was the leader was left open, as both magazines had their own diskmags charts
- in which, naturally, they themselves were placed number one respectively.
- Basically it seemed that, like so often, there were two factions in the scene,
- one being Maggie groupies, the others defenders of the undercover crown.
-
- The UCM adherents regarded their mags as more scenish, since it focused on news
- and heaps of reviews of demos, music packs, diskmags and even ascii art while
- containing only few non-scene articles - mostly jokes in German language from
- an unknown origin. By contrast, Maggie was more open-minded towards other
- topics, the scene section being just one of many. The games and game-dev
- section was of the same size, and there were lots of stories and reports about
- real-life as well as fictional happenings. At the same time Maggie also
- featured more coding articles. Well, yeah, I see that you are smiling - or at
- least I am.
-
- UCM was directed by Moondog, a German editor and member of the demo group
- .tSCc. (the sirius cybernetics corporation). He was (in)famous for his harsh,
- opinionated reviews in which he did not hold back criticism, no matter whether
- the respective production had been released by a friend or foe of his. His
- writing was not too bad, never too short, sometimes rather too long. However,
- his style very often appeared to be quite spontaneous, which was shown by the
- frequent use of the words "hehe" and "hmm". That's why MrPink, deputy editor of
- Maggie, once joked that Moondog was probably living in Hmmburg.
-
- Short after the review in Hugi, Moondog's scene activities were interrupted by
- the loss of a very close relative. It was not easy for him to recover from this
- shock, especially as it also meant that from now on he would have to assume
- more responsibility for his remaining family. That was why he decided to stop
- working on the magazine which he had been leading and filling with articles for
- more than five years.
-
- The new main editor was STsurvivor, the former editor of the French Toxic
- Magazine. STS created issues 15 to 20 of UCM. Whilst issue 15 was still in the
- Moondog style because Moondog had left quite a lot of articles to his
- successor, he was on his own in the remaining issues. STS faced the problem
- with which a lot of editors who aren't accustomed to writing everything
- themselves are confronted: lack of contributions. So the fact that UCM was
- released quite frequently, and once there was even just a month's time between
- two issues, isn't due to a flood of articles; these issues were simply small in
- content.
-
- After UCM #20, STS resigned. At about the same time the last issue of Maggie
- was released - 10 years after Maggie #1. The Atari scene was left without a
- major diskmag. Then editors of both magazines, such as CiH, Paranoid and
- Exocet, decided to team up and create a new mag. Born was Alive, the mag that
- was supposed to show that the Atari scene was what its name indicated. One
- former UCM editor, however, didn't join this move; instead, Grey of Mystic
- Bytes founded another disk magazine, Chosneck. So far there is only an issue.
- It is based on a Falcon engine which, according to the review in UCM #22, looks
- very much like PC diskmags such as Hugi.
-
- Whereas Chosneck apparently has a pretty modern interface, Alive is embedded in
- the engine of the old Undercover Magazine. It looks so much like older UCM
- issues that, if there wasn't the Alive logo, you'd think you were reading yet
- another UCM edition. But in contrast to the last UCMs, it did have quite a lot
- of content: about 70 articles per issue.The first issue came out in early 2001.
- By now there are already four issues.
-
- But, now comes the surprise: Short after Alive #1, UCM #21 was released under
- the .tSCc. label; Moondog was back in business! Again he had created an issue
- almost with only his own articles. The mag appeared in the same old, or let's
- say classic style, it featured the same sections as before, a big news corner
- and lots of reviews, including reviews of Alive and the last issues of UCM with
- STS as the main editor - the headline is already very telling: "UCM at its
- worst?".
-
- A year later, in April 2002, UCM #22 came out, again mainly with Moondog
- editorials, Moondog news, Moondog reviews - and, okay, Mc Laser party reports.
-
- Moondog is a veteran who is obviously very dedicated to the Atari scene and
- loves writing about it. He also seems to feel responsible for his magazine,
- which is very understandable, as he built it up himself, led it and dominated
- its contents for several years. He is the example of a single person with
- outstanding commitment - commitment strong enough to keep a whole scene alive.
-
- Apart from those, some new mags saw the light of the day in Poland and England:
- Syntax vs Underground and ST Offline respectively. At this point it seems to be
- impossible to tell anything but that future will show us how they will develop.
-
- The latest two issues of UCM can also be read online at sirlab.de. That's
- a very good move for those who want a quick read without bothering to install
- an emulator and find out how to handle that new, virtual system.
-
- In conclusion, although Atari systems aren't widespread, the scene seems to be
- still running, and there are still mags of some quality. I'm personally not
- much attracted by reviews except sometimes mag-reviews, but if that's what
- an editor wants to write, there's no reason to forbid him to do so.
-
- Adok/Hugi - 29 April 2002
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