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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: (ztt) [e-mail]
Date: 01 Feb 1998 00:06:55 -0500


(This happened before sending mail to John - I should've remembered)

John: Am I the only one who uses a Mac?  I'd love to have a copy of this
to check it out as I have never heard any AoS stuff.  Is it possible that
you can attach that Mac file to your e-Mail?

Jeff: I have no Mac (and I currently have no net access - hence the free
e-mail
service (to which I can attach no files)). When I go to Kinko's to use a
Mac, I will copy the diskette and mail you a copy, if you like.

(My mail to you keeps getting bounced, so I have to do this through the
list)

Jeff

P.S. Who was the other person - the one who wanted to put it on their web
site? I can mail you a diskette too.



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From: artisan2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Plastic & Physical...A "Morleyism"?
Date: 01 Feb 1998 00:22:09 -0500


>What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about

  There's not much I've been able to find. He has rather scattered work
history. He Specifically was the studio engineer for AON. He produced,
engineered & mixed "Life In A Northern Town" and one other track for The
Dream Acadamy. He remixed Billy Idol's "Flesh For Fantasy" in '85. Then,
after '87, I lost track of him. I actually thought he had died due to
someone's speculation on the dialog of "How Rapid is Rapid".
  If you look up Art Of Noise on Lycos or Yahoo you will find a Trevor
Horn worship page. On that page is a link to (I think) ASCAP's website.
He is listed as a member with a short bio.
  Sorry I can't be more specific.

          James Scott Coward

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From: "Tony Kinson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 01 Feb 1998 12:42:50 -0000


>What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about...

>after '87, I lost track of him. I actually thought he had died due to
someone's speculation on the dialog of >"How Rapid is Rapid"....

Hi all

He also produced Hugh Cornwell's "Wired" album - released in 1993,
Metropolis Studios.

regards

Tony Kinson

"The Torture Garden" - The official Hugh Cornwell web-site
http://www.hughcornwell.com
"The Home Of The Strange" for music,stories & humour
http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/kinski.yearzero/
"Sleep No More" - the web-site for The Comsat Angels
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From: "Mark Wasiel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) The Ultimate ZTT CD
Date: 01 Feb 1998 14:09:23 -0800


Okay.  Time for me to state my wish list of ZTT material for CD.  I'd love a
multidisc compilation but since that doesn't seem likely (but would be a
welcome surprise!) I'd settle for one CD that contains:

1) Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax (Sex Mix - 16 minutes.  amazing!)
2) 808 State/MC Tunes - Dance Yourself To Death (mix from the License To
Thrill soundtrack. amazing!)
3) Grace Jones - Junk Yard (the funkiest ZTT jam of all time.  amazing!)
4) Propaganda - Lied (from the Duel double 7")
5) Propaganda - The Lesson (from the Duel double 7")
6) Anne Pigalle - He Stranger  (extended) + Stranger (Than Fiction)
7) Propaganda - (beta wraparound of) P:Machinery
8) Propaganda - (echo of ) Frozen Faces
9) Andrew Poppy - The Impossible Net
10) FGTH - WTTP (Fruitness) from XZTAS7.
11) FGHT - Warrior Of The Wasteland (Attack Mix)

Hmmm...I think that's about it.  These are some of ZTT's finest moments that
are not available on CD but should be.  There might be a few others I'm
forgetting but I can't think of any at the moment.

Of course, I'd love to see all of the cassette singles released on CD.  I'd
also love to have the Nasty Rox Inc. album reissued on CD with the original
12".  Oh yeah, and Act's Absolutely Immune and Chance 12" issued on CD too.

Thanks for reading!

Mark Wasiel



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From: "Boaz Halachmi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) CTIS 28
Date: 02 Feb 1998 22:25:20 +0200




Hi

Regarding:

CSS: 1987 UK (ZTT; CTIS 28) [20 May; "Cabaret Cassette!"]
9:47 Snobbery and Decay (that's entertainment!)

I don`t know if this is old news. but the version on the CSS is LONGER(!!!)
than the 12" one.
On the 7" there is a 16 sec. violins intro to the song.
On the 12" (12ZTAS28 & 12ZACT28) this intro was cut out (just after the
"money money..." and the silence break- the song begins without this intro).
But(!) on the CSS the intro is there (the last 13 sec of it).

On the end of side 2 only, after the theme edit,
there is a 2 sec digital tune.
Am i the only one to hear it?
Someone can tell me what it is?

So, i guess it`s going to be

CSS: 1987 UK (ZTT; CTIS 28) [20 May; "Cabaret Cassette!"]
10:00 Snobbery and Decay (that's entertainment!) (longer version)
  4:07 I'd Be Surprisingly Good For You
  3:52 Poison (single remix)
  1:40 (theme from) Snobbery And Decay (edit)
  (side 2 only)
 00:02 (digital tune)

Is that entertaining?
Boaz



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From: Andy Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) CTIS 28
Date: 03 Feb 1998 13:31:21 +0100


Boaz Halachmi wrote:
> I don`t know if this is old news. but the version on the CSS is
> LONGER(!!!) than the 12" one.
> On the 7" there is a 16 sec. violins intro to the song.
> On the 12" (12ZTAS28 & 12ZACT28) this intro was cut out (just after
> the "money money..." and the silence break- the song begins without
> this intro). But(!) on the CSS the intro is there (the last 13 sec of
> it).

I spotted this too...

> On the end of side 2 only, after the theme edit, there is a 2 sec
> digital tune. Am i the only one to hear it? Someone can tell me what
> it is?

Well, if it is a rising sequence of notes, it's the XDR test tone, and
it occurs at the start and/or end of a number of ZTT (and other) tapes
that I have.

From (distant) memory, XDR stood for eXtended Dynamic Range, and was
supposed to be a method of making tapes sound better by checking the
sound quality at all stages of manufacturing. The test signal of 10
notes, each an octave apart, was there as a sort of quality check used
in the manufacturing process - if the low or high frequencies were lost,
some of the notes would not be audible.

- andy R.


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: (ztt) All Saints
Date: 03 Feb 1998 17:54:02 -0500


There is a 1/2-lengthy article about this group in the current issue of
Billboard. There is mention of Shaznay Lewis and Melanie Blatt recording
for ZTT in 1994 and 1995 (all singles and no albums, according to the
article). Were these two any good (for those of you who may have heard?)?
- Just curious.

'Tis so rare I see mention of ZTT - that's what caught my eye as the
pages flew past.

Jeff

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From: vcastello <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Holly Johnson's artwork
Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:52:23 +0100


Hi everyone.

This is the first time i post a message to the list, although i've beeen
receiving it for quite a while.
The thing is that i remember the other someone asked for artpieces of
holly and claudia, and i just found today a site where you can see a
collage signed by holly.

I don't know if someone has already posted the address, but just in case
...

http://www.warchild.org/artists/milestones/07.html

Ciao


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From: "Mark Wasiel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints
Date: 04 Feb 1998 21:21:28 -0800


>There is a 1/2-lengthy article about this group in the current issue of
>Billboard. There is mention of Shaznay Lewis and Melanie Blatt recording
>for ZTT in 1994 and 1995 (all singles and no albums, according to the
>article). Were these two any good (for those of you who may have heard?)?


I'd say they were very average British-flavored R&B.  The lead single was
very disappointing, Silver Shadow I believe.  This is definitely
WEA-influenced ZTT, imho.

Mark




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From: Soeren Larsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Switzerland Sampled
Date: 05 Feb 1998 16:00:10 +0100 (MET)


Hej Zs


> >If anyone like it I could easily make some MP3 samples of the disc and you
> >could decide for yourself.
>
> That sounds like a good idea to me!

OK. Try

www.kom.auc.dk/~sorenl/s-ep.zip

Archive of all four tracks as MP3 samples only. 2 Mb of size.

Use it to expand your ZTT knowledge.

enjoy ...

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From: Geoff Davies <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints
Date: 05 Feb 1998 08:54:04 -0800


>I'd say they were very average British-flavored R&B.  The lead single was
>very disappointing, Silver Shadow I believe.  This is definitely
>WEA-influenced ZTT, imho.

They are also featured in Q magazine under the section "their time has
come" (or something similar).  In the article they say that they faced
every problem a band could hit including "a bad record label".  I found
that quite amusing.

Geoff.


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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints
Date: 05 Feb 1998 18:05:49 +0100 (MET)


> >I'd say they were very average British-flavored R&B.  The lead single was
> >very disappointing, Silver Shadow I believe.  This is definitely
> >WEA-influenced ZTT, imho.
>
> They are also featured in Q magazine under the section "their time has
> come" (or something similar).  In the article they say that they faced
> every problem a band could hit including "a bad record label".  I found
> that quite amusing.

I've seen that "Let's Get Started" (a ZTT-era track of them) allegedly
has just been released in Japan.  Strange, isn't it?

-Joerg



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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints
Date: 05 Feb 1998 12:28:42 -0500


On Thu, 05 Feb 1998 08:54:04 -0800 Geoff Davies <[e-mail]>
writes:

>>> They are also featured in Q magazine under the section "their time
has come" (or something similar). In the article they say that they faced
every problem a band could hit including "a bad record label". I found
that quite amusing. <<<

It seems that they didn't necessarily have a "bad record label", but
rather "no talent", judging by the descriptions and opinions I've heard.

BTW in Warner Bros. Grammy nominations ad in the current issue of
Billboard, ZTT is listed with a dozen other Warner Bros. imprints.
Exactly when did the two split up?


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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Gary Langan [was: ...]
Date: 05 Feb 1998 18:34:12 +0100 (MET)


> >What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about
>
>   There's not much I've been able to find.
> [...]
>   If you look up Art Of Noise on Lycos or Yahoo you will find a Trevor
> Horn worship page. On that page is a link to (I think) ASCAP's website.
> He is listed as a member with a short bio.
>   Sorry I can't be more specific.
>
>           James Scott Coward
>           [e-mail]

To the names mentioned on Gary Langan's APRS page (which is actually
quite a lot), I only have to add:  Belouis Some and as engineer with
Trevor Horn also Philip Jap, Yes and Dollar.

Cheers

 Joerg



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From: John Goelzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:19:51 -0600


> >What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about

Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab, the P.I.L. album with
"Seattle" and "We Want Your Body" on it and, I think, one of the Mick
Jagger solo LPs.


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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Who's Recognizing The Voice? (Of Gary Langan!)
Date: 05 Feb 1998 18:48:03 +0100 (MET)



Andy Robinson wrote (was subject 'Stuff ZTT should release...'):

> > >> [...] the opening dialog to AON's "Love Beat" between Anne and
> > >> (I think) Trevor is left intact. [...]
> > >
> > >Isn't it Anne and JJ ??
> >
> >   I don't think it was J.J. but it could have been. Maybe it was Gary or
> > Paul.?.. [...]
>
> Sounds like Paul Morley and Anne Dudley to me - compare Paul's voice on
> the Value of Entertainment video...

I'm pretty sure it's Gary Langan!
(And absolutely sure that it's neither Paul nor Trevor.)

However, I'd agree the other person is probably Anne... ;-)


Greetings

 Joerg


P.S.:  Note that there's a different intro talking on the cassette
       single ('singlette' to not get shot) version.


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:26:24 -0700 (MST)


>> What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about
>
> Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab

By the sort of weird coincidence that always happens to me, I'm listening to
Beauty Stab at this very moment, and had been thinking that it really doesn't
deserve the horrible reputation it has.  Granted it's not their best, but...

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Subject: Re: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan/Beauty Stab
Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:34:50 -0500






>By the sort of weird coincidence that always happens to me, I'm listening to
>Beauty Stab at this very moment, and had been thinking that it really doesn't
>deserve the horrible reputation it has.  Granted it's not their best, but...
>
>--
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Not to go too far afield but I have to add my whole hearted agreement to Lazlo's assesment. Although "Stab" is no "Lexicon of Love" it does have its moments, most notably "S.O.S." and "If I ever Thought You'd Be Lonely". Polygram did a great job remastering it this year and, news, this year we will see "How To BE A Millionaire" and "Alphabet City" from Polygram UK as well.

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From: Patrick Daly <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:56:31 -0500 (EST)




On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, John Goelzer wrote:

>
> > >What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about
>
> Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab, the P.I.L. album with
> "Seattle" and "We Want Your Body" on it and, I think, one of the Mick
> Jagger solo LPs.
>

That P.I.L. album was called "Happy?"



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From: Patrick Daly <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 05 Feb 1998 15:57:07 -0500 (EST)




On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Lazlo Nibble wrote:

>
> >> What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about
> >
> > Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab
>
> By the sort of weird coincidence that always happens to me, I'm listening to
> Beauty Stab at this very moment, and had been thinking that it really doesn't
> deserve the horrible reputation it has.  Granted it's not their best, but...
>


It ain't no Lexicon of Love.






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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:54:39 -0700 (MST)


> It ain't no Lexicon of Love.

Yeah, but neither is just about anything else by any other band on the face of
the planet . . .

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From: Ian Peel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints
Date: 05 Feb 1998 19:42:31 +0000


IMHO... All Saints could have been massive on any label apart from ZTT.
The people there at the time just had now idea how to handle such an act
and I actually felt soprry for them.  They had drive and ambition
(especially the non-ztt production crew behind them) but were just not
understood.  The only parallel the folks at ZTT could draw were Eternal,
so much for a label building a unique image for a band...

I have to say that I dont mind Silver Shadow.  It's no more WEA-
influenced ZTT pop than Mantra were WEA-influenced ZTT rave and Lorenza
was WEA-influenced ZTT soul...

Ian Peel
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ON MAGAZINE (www.state51.co.uk/on/ianpeel.html)...
ROUGH GUIDES (www.roughguides.com/rock/index.html)...
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From: [e-mail] (jon masciana)
Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 05 Feb 1998 17:55:43 -0800 (PST)


>> It ain't no Lexicon of Love.
>
>Yeah, but neither is just about anything else by any other band on the face of
>the planet . . .
>
>--
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Understandable but I think the Best of The Art Of Noise and Leftfield's
"Leftism" come pretty damn close.

Jon




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) 12 ZACT 28
Date: 06 Feb 1998 03:20:12 EST


I need a MINT copy of the Absolutely Immune 12" gatefold - does anyone know
where I could get one in MINT condition?  Thanks...

Be seeing you...
- John, Jr.


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: (ztt) The WaxTrax collection
Date: 06 Feb 1998 09:59:58 -0500


On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 03:20:25 EST [e-mail] writes:

>>> The Wax Trax box set sold OK, but the label didn't really put a lot
of "collector" material on it except for the one track - I don't remember
which - that the Ministry guy did vocals on... <<<

Yeah - that wasn't a totally good example. It was really a "greatest
hits" set for the label. I didn't really like it too much, but still have
it anyway for the "collector's value" of it, whatever that may be.


I'm currently remixing "Close To the Edit" to suit my own tastes - I'll
keep everyone updated.



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From: artisan2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Who's Recognizing The Voice? (Of Gary Langan!)
Date: 06 Feb 1998 13:17:46 -0500


The other day, Joerg noted:
> Note that there's a different intro talking on the cassette
>       single ('singlette' to not get shot) version.

What are they discussing on that one?
... how about this one to risk assassination by?:..."cassingle."

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: Re: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 07 Feb 1998 02:06:28 -0500


>>> It ain't no Lexicon of Love. <<<

I guess it's about time that I own up to the fact that I had never even
heard of Lexicon of Love until I joined this list.

Can it (they) really be that good? (Even though no artist on ZTT or any
other label will ever match the sheer uniqueness of AoN)


Jeff, expecting a million positive responses...


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From: "Mark Wasiel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Top Ten Signs You Are Obsessed With ZTT/TCH
Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:11:41 -0800


Well, I thought I wasn't going to post this, but I changed my mind.  I hope
no one takes any offence to this.  If anyone should it probably should be me
since most of them are about me.

I hope you find this as entertaining as it was to write it.


*Top 10 Signs That You Are Obsessed With ZTT/Trevor Horn*

10. You have dreams about finding that rare ZTT release you've been looking
for since 1985.

9. You have dreams in which you find new ZTT releases that don't exist and
then get pissed when you wake up and realize your mind has been playing
tricks on you.

8. You love the Buggles so much, you've made your own T-Shirt and proudly
were in it public places.

7. You listen to the 2nd Buggles album for the 200th time in the hopes that
once you become more familiar with the songs on it you will realize how
great it really is.

6. You take pride in the fact that instead of memorizing all of the 10
commandments in religious studies you can recite all of the songs and
artists that make up ZTT's Action Series.

5.  You considered buying Cher's last album just to get the two Trevor Horn
produced tracks.

4. You bought Cher's last album just for that reason.

3. You actually tried to track down and read all of the books that Paul
Morley listed in the liner notes of FGTH's WTTP LP.

2.  After hearing that Trevor & Seal got into fist-a-cuffs and stopped
working together, you start thinking that Seal's second album really isn't
as good as you used to think it was.

And, the number one sign you are obsessed with ZTT and/or Trevor Horn...

1.  You actually spend time out of your busy life to make a top ten list of
why you are obsessed with ZTT and Trevor Horn instead of studying for an
exam.

Thanks folks!

Trevor, if you're out there, gimme a call.  I want to make a documentary
about you!

Before I get any hate mail, I just want to say for the record that I do like
the Buggles and no, I haven't made a Buggles T-shirt.  But most of the
others are true.

Post other signs... I know there must be more!

Mark Wasiel
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) Lexicon of Love (was Re: Gary Langan)
Date: 07 Feb 1998 07:42:11 -0800 (PST)


Jeff A Hamilton wrote:
> I guess it's about time that I own up to the fact that I had never even
> heard of Lexicon of Love until I joined this list.
>
> Can it (they) really be that good?

Lexicon of Love is an old album by ABC, produced by Trevor Horn, with
Anne Dudley arranging strings and apparently Gary Langan being involved,
too. If you watched MTV back in the day, you probably saw the video for
"Poison Arrow" from this album at least a dozen times. IMHO it's a good
pop album, but really Euro sounding, lightweight and discoey. It ain't
no Welcome to the Pleasuredome. ;)


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From: "Raymond A. Koh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Lexicon of Love (was Re: Gary Langan)
Date: 07 Feb 1998 16:14:30 -0800


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Jeff A Hamilton wrote:
> > I guess it's about time that I own up to the fact that I had never even
> > heard of Lexicon of Love until I joined this list.
> >
> > Can it (they) really be that good?
>
> Lexicon of Love is an old album by ABC, produced by Trevor Horn, with
> Anne Dudley arranging strings and apparently Gary Langan being involved,

Not forgetting Master fairlight operator, JJ Jeczalik!!

Carrying on the "Where are they now" feature on Gary Langan, I believe
he also mixed Propaganda's "1234" album. I've also seen a few other
minor credits for the elusive Gary on other British pop groups (can't
remember their names but they would be 80's sounding).

Raymondus

BTW There is a remix of Copacabana coming out in the UK on Monday. Is
this the Trevor Horn remix as mentioned on Joerg discog?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) 12 ZACT 28/Two Tribes (Intermission) GER CD5
Date: 08 Feb 1998 03:21:10 EST


12 ZACT 28 - 12" gatefold - Ok so it's Absolutely Immune but the catalog
number was right - I take it that no one knows where you might be able to get
one?

Can anyone still supply the German CD5 of Two Tribes (Intermission Mixes)?

Thanks!


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From: Ian Peel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 07 Feb 1998 15:49:22 +0000


>By the sort of weird coincidence that always happens to me, I'm listening to
>Beauty Stab at this very moment, and had been thinking that it really doesn't
>deserve the horrible reputation it has.  Granted it's not their best, but...

I gotta say that Beauty Stab is one of my favourite ABC LPs, there isn;t
a single duff track on there.  It stands up today much better than
Lexicon Of Love on the songwriting front...

Ian Peel
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From: Soeren Larsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Trevor Horn invention
Date: 09 Feb 1998 09:00:43 +0100 (MET)


Hi Trevors

Last Friday a DJ at Denmarks Radio made a feature on Trevor Horn. This DJ
is very fasinated by Trevor and how he was the first to use sampled break
beats to make new music. So he told the story about how Trevor used he's
inspiration from working with The Supream Team when he was producing Yes
Owner of a Lonely Heart.

This is really essential stuff for anyone who is interested in Trevor
Horn and how music changed by the use of samplers. That's why I've made a
copy of a selected part of the feature for everybody.

Check: www.kom.auc.dk/~sorenl/horn.zip     (2,5 Mb MP3 sample)

Prior to this piece of the feature the DJ has told the story about The
Supream Team and how Trevor Horn had bought this new invention called a
Fairlight. In this piece it's shown how Trevor sampled three little pieces
(limited by the sampler) of a Funk Inc. record and used it on the Yes
track. It's very detailed and I think it's splented. The DJ speaks Danish
but I think the music speaks for itself.


enjoy
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) ZTT "golden" disc
Date: 09 Feb 1998 03:31:53 EST


My 2 cents...

If there were a "golden" disc flying around (and you know what I mean) I for
one would have to insist on the highest digital purity of sound - this is one
of the problems where the sound quality on unreleased (on digital format)
remixes tend to not have this high standard...

Be seeing you...
- John, Jr.

P.S. Is there an e-mail address for ZTT or staff there?


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From: "van der Veer, Frits SIC-CTPK/2" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) The "latest" TCH
Date: 09 Feb 1998 09:43:50 +0100



Hi Zangers,

Last saterday i bought the new Goldie album. A rather nice, two cd, bass
and drum oriented album which lasts 150 minutes. The third track of the
second cd is WRITTEN by:
Goldie, TCH, Dudley, Mclaren. Like the Prodigy-song (Firestarter) only a
sound-byte of "Malcolm McLaren and The World's Famous Supreme Team:
Buffalo Gals" can be heard.
Do I need to give more details for a discography or is it not TCH/ZTT
enough?



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met vriendelijke groet/ kindly regards,

Frits van der Veer

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: (ztt) cd recording
Date: 09 Feb 1998 09:25:20 -0500


Suppose I were to assemble a sound recording (or two) and replicate it,
making it available to the group (and other ztt lovers, of course) at
cost. I can make cassettes with complete packaging and cd packaging but
not cds. Is there someone on this list to whom I could forward a DAT
master - in turn, that person could make the cds?

I'm not sure what prices would end up being, but the "list price" (no pun
intended) would be postage + media + packaging. For cassettes, that would
be about one U.S. dollar plus postage (which would vary by country). For
CDs I'm sure it wouldn't be more than five U.S. dollars but I really
don't know.


So if anyone out there has a CD recorder and knows how to use it
properly, please e-mail me privately.



Jeff Hamilton, the Capitalist
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: (ztt) a ZTT compilation
Date: 09 Feb 1998 11:24:25 -0500


(sort of continued from my last group message)

I'm not too much of a ZTTaholic other than the AoN stuff. So I'd like
everyone to send in a list of what they'd want on a 70 minute recording
which we could circulate amongst our selves at a reasonably low cost.
(I've already taken note of Mark Wasiel's list - even though it didn't
contain "Beatbox".) Then I guess the lists could be "averaged" to create
a satisfactory set list - or we could make 2 or 3 or 4 discs. who knows.

If anyone would be interested in remixing any AoN tracks drop me a line.
I'm not anti-techno but if we could not do any techno remixes, it would
set a new AoN compilation apart from FON and D&B.

Jeff


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From: "Ian J. Harris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan
Date: 07 Feb 1998 16:38:10 +0000



>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Lazlo Nibble wrote:
>
> >
> > >> What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about
> > >
> > > Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab
> >
> > By the sort of weird coincidence that always happens to me, I'm listening to
> > Beauty Stab at this very moment, and had been thinking that it really doesn't
> > deserve the horrible reputation it has.  Granted it's not their best, but...
> >
>
>
> It ain't no Lexicon of Love.
>
Maybe not, but it is still a vastly under-rated album. How could they
have improved on perfection? Lexicon is probably my favourite album
of all time.

Ian J. Harris
>From New York, London, Paris & Munich
Always ready to talk about
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From: Shaun Hayes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) a ZTT compilation
Date: 09 Feb 1998 09:58:08 -0700


At 11:24 AM 02/09/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>(sort of continued from my last group message)
>
>I'm not too much of a ZTTaholic other than the AoN stuff. So I'd like
>everyone to send in a list of what they'd want on a 70 minute recording
>which we could circulate amongst our selves at a reasonably low cost.
>(I've already taken note of Mark Wasiel's list - even though it didn't
>contain "Beatbox".) Then I guess the lists could be "averaged" to create
>a satisfactory set list - or we could make 2 or 3 or 4 discs. who knows.

Similarly to Jeff,  I'm only *really* interested in Propoganda/ACT/Claudia
related rarities and non-CD tracks, remixes etc (and then ANYTHING I can
get of those, especially ACT).  It sounds like the interest is there, but
for a number of different agendas....

-Shaun
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: Re: (ztt) a ZTT compilation
Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:28:02 -0500


On Mon, 09 Feb 1998 09:58:08 -0700 Shaun Hayes <[e-mail]> writes:
>>> Similarly to Jeff,  I'm only *really* interested in
Propoganda/ACT/Claudia related rarities and non-CD tracks, remixes etc
(and then ANYTHING I can get of those, especially ACT).  It sounds like
the interest is there, but for a number of different agendas.... <<<

More than perfect - it means that the very diverse ZTT compilation we
might make will certainly have a little to please everyone!!

Jeff


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) 12 ZACT 28/Two Tribes (Intermission) GER CD5
Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:45:18 -0700 (MST)


> 12 ZACT 28 - 12" gatefold - Ok so it's Absolutely Immune but the catalog
> number was right - I take it that no one knows where you might be able to get
> one?

Well, erm, it's either NOT "Absolutely Immune" or the catalog number is WRONG,
as 12 ZACT 28 is the gatefold-sleeve version of "Snobbery & Decay".  Is that
what you're looking for?

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From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Re: art of Holly
Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:10:48 +100


"The Gallery" in London (Cork Street) had an exibition of Holly's
paintings in march 1996 on. The exibition was called "House of Holly".
There was also a booklet published with prints of the paintings plus
a biography.

Tschuesschen.

Till


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From: "Adam J. Weitzman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Oscars
Date: 10 Feb 1998 11:14:28 -0500 (EST)


An Oscar nomination for Anne Dudley!!

The nominees are:

ORIGINAL MUSICAL OR COMEDY SCORE:
Anastasia                - Stephen Flaherty, Lynn Ahrens and David Newman
As Good As It Gets       - Hans Zimmer
The Full Monty           - Anne Dudley
Men In Black             - Danny Elfman
My Best Friend's Wedding - James Newton Howard.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (ztt) Oscars
Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:10:42 +0000


Adam J. Weitzman wrote:
>
> An Oscar nomination for Anne Dudley!!
>
> brilliant news!!!! go anne go!



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From: "Alberto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Two Tribes
Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:25:39 +0100


On my Soundtrack LP to British comedy The Supergrass, there is a version of
Two Tribes that I haven't found elsewhere so far.

It is 3:32 min long and starts like the 7" mix, only without the spoken
intro. The sound is then a bit rougher, with noisy guitars, a bit like the
Surrender mix. The march bit is longer than on the 7". The end bit (are we
living in a world ...) is missing.

Does anybody know where this version is from, and has anybody seen it on CD?

Alberto


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) 12 ZACT 28/Two Tribes (Intermission) GER CD5
Date: 11 Feb 1998 03:33:43 EST


YES! - Finally! (my brain has been on vacation) Yes, it is the Snobbery &
Decay gate 12" that I need along with the GER CD5 mentioned


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) The new Buggles Japan release
Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:31:27 +0100


Hello lost,

I just received the Japan version of Adventures In Moderrn Recording
from The Artist Shop. The label is Flavour. It's great having Fade Away
(b-side of ON TV),  Blue Nylon (b-side of LENNY) and the 12" mix of I Am
Camera as extra tracks. All the three tracks are, however, very short.
More details later.

Also a greeting following the Anne Dudley Oscar nomination!

Torben
- The dane


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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Lexiconism
Date: 11 Feb 1998 14:47:53 +0100 (MET)


Jon Masciana wrote:
> >> It ain't no Lexicon of Love.
> >
> >Yeah, but neither is just about anything else by any other band on
> >the face of the planet . . .
>
> Understandable but I think the Best of The Art Of Noise and Leftfield's
> "Leftism" come pretty damn close.

Yeaaaaah, "Leftism"!!!  Actually I'd say it's not even from this planet...



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From: Andy Robinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) More awards for Anne Dudley
Date: 11 Feb 1998 15:32:29 +0100


The Full Monty soundtrack won best soundtrack at the Brit awards (the UK
music industry annual prizegiving). The vaugely ZTT related All Saints
won two awards there too, best single & best video.

- andy R.


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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Re: art of Holly
Date: 11 Feb 1998 15:31:29 +0100 (MET)


> "The Gallery" in London (Cork Street) had an exibition of Holly's
> paintings in march 1996 on. The exibition was called "House of Holly".
> There was also a booklet published with prints of the paintings plus
> a biography.

And then there's the sleeve of Kirsty MacColl's "Angel" single, which
is a close-up of a painting Holly did.  Maybe the original has been
shown in the exhibition?

Cheers

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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Two Tribes
Date: 11 Feb 1998 16:17:21 +0100 (MET)


Alberto <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On my Soundtrack LP to British comedy The Supergrass, there is a version of
> Two Tribes that I haven't found elsewhere so far.
>
> It is 3:32 min long and starts like the 7" mix, only without the spoken
> intro. The sound is then a bit rougher, with noisy guitars, a bit like the
> Surrender mix. The march bit is longer than on the 7". The end bit (are we
> living in a world ...) is missing.
>
> Does anybody know where this version is from, and has anybody seen it on CD?

I think this was just an edit of the "We Don't Want To Die"
(picture-7") version done for the movie.  I don't know if the soundtrack
came out on CD, but I doubt.
I haven't compared the versions too closely, but I didn't notice
anything new or re-arranged.  I thought they had just left out the
beginning and the end.  But maybe I overheared soemthing.

You can find this in Lazlo's discog:

::: Compilation Appearances -- all eras ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - compilation appearances

  [Two Tribes]
        [on Various: The Supergrass (O.S.T.)]
            LP: 1985 UK (Island Visual Arts; ISTA 11)
                  3:32  Two Tribes (we don't want to die - edit)

Grace Jones - compilation appearances [ZTT era only]

  [Slave To The Rhythm]
        [on Various: The Supergrass (O.S.T.)]
            LP: 1985 UK (Island Visual Arts; ISTA 11)
                  4:21  Slave To The Rhythm (single version)




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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Top Ten Signs You Are Obsessed With ZTT/TCH
Date: 11 Feb 1998 18:48:12 +0100 (MET)


Mark Wasiel wrote:
> [...]
> *Top 10 Signs That You Are Obsessed With ZTT/Trevor Horn*
> [......]

Great, I really enjoyed this!  Actually I found most of the symptoms
apply to myself as well... except for #8, #4-#2 (I never thought it was
_that_ good) and #1 (well, until now)...

> Post other signs... I know there must be more!

Here's more signs:

1. You find yourself daydreaming of breaking into ZTT to get those
   damn mastertapes and those unreleased mixes. (*)

2. You want to make a 3 hours long mix of WTTPD (using the tapes from #1).

3. You are identifying mixes by looking at matrix numbers, instead of
   enjoying the music.

4. You have more than a handful of Relax 12"es. (If you're still counting.)

5. You get paranoid.

6. No matter what volume you start with, when listening to certain
   classic ZTT songs you just have to constantly turn it louder and
   louder every few seconds.

(*) Obviously they don't need them anymore, anyway. ;-)


> Trevor, if you're out there, gimme a call.  I want to make a documentary
> about you!

Hey Mark, you've got to write your number!


Cheers

 Joerg



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From: Ian Peel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) The Ultimate ZTT CD
Date: 11 Feb 1998 16:19:15 +0000


Hmmm...  I'm certain that summing up ZTT's archives on one CD
compilation could be about as damaging as Zance...  True, there is a
stack of stuff not available on CD, but a lot of it amounts to
unecessary extensions of brilliant originals (IMHO) and would be a waste
of space, EG:

>7) Propaganda - (beta wraparound of) P:Machinery
>8) Propaganda - (echo of ) Frozen Faces
>10) FGTH - WTTP (Fruitness) from XZTAS7.
>11) FGHT - Warrior Of The Wasteland (Attack Mix)

Perhaps the best way to keep everyone happy, theoretically, would be a
series of CDs, along the lines of...
Zang Tuum Tumb Treasure Trove: Art Of Noise
Zang Tuum Tumb Treasure Trove: FGTH 1
Zang Tuum Tumb Treasure Trove: FGTH 2

etc.

Personally I would favour an incidental CD in the series (Zang Tuum Tumb
Treasure Trove: Incidental), which would include tracks like Hans
Zimmer's World Of Theory (Explode), Act's White Rabbit, some Nasty Rox,
Andrew Poppy's segments from Sampled, and other such obscurities...
Ian Peel
--- ---- > read.me in:
4D - THE TIMES' WEB MAGAZINE (www.4-d.co.uk)...
ON MAGAZINE (www.state51.co.uk/on/ianpeel.html)...
ROUGH GUIDES (www.roughguides.com/rock/index.html)...
and MY BOOK - FUTURE VISIONS (www.compbook.co.uk/promo/netguides/)


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From: Geoff Davies <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Top Ten Signs You Are Obsessed With ZTT/TCH
Date: 11 Feb 1998 14:21:55 -0800


What about the following:

1) Going to main-stream CD stores (Tower etc) and seeing a ZTT label on a
CD and HAVING to pick it up to examine it, even though you know it going to
be a standard issue CD such as Seal or something.  Then you put it down
asking yourself why you bothered because you knew it wasn't going to be a
rarity!

Geoff.


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Top Ten Signs You Are Obsessed With ZTT/TCH
Date: 11 Feb 1998 17:04:24 -0700 (MST)


> 1) Going to main-stream CD stores (Tower etc) and seeing a ZTT label on a
> CD and HAVING to pick it up to examine it, even though you know it going to
> be a standard issue CD such as Seal or something.  Then you put it down
> asking yourself why you bothered because you knew it wasn't going to be a
> rarity!

I ALWAYS double-check copies of the Seal albums when I se them on CD.
I still haven't managed to get my hands on copies of those original
pre-remixed pressings, and you never know when something might find its way
out of some dusty corner of a warehouse somewhere . . .

--
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From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Holly live in G.A.Y.
Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:18:26 +100


To Holly-fans all over the world!

Holly Johnson is singing live in the londoner nightclub "London
Astoria" (L.A.),Tottenhamscourt in G.A.Y. this saturday 14th febuary
valintines evening!
Further he probably does a P.A. in Krefeld (Germany) 12th April.

Bye , bye.

Till


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From: Dean Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) "Laughter" cd at Esprit
Date: 12 Feb 1998 09:16:16 -0500 (EST)


If anyone is interested, Esprit (http://www.eil.co.uk/) has a copy of Act's
"Laughter, Tears, and Rage" cd for 25UKP.

-Dean




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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Who's Recognizing The Voice? (Of Gary Langan!)
Date: 12 Feb 1998 15:44:54 +0100 (MET)


James ([e-mail]) wrote:
> The other day, Joerg noted:
> > Note that there's a different intro talking on the cassette
> >       single ('singlette' to not get shot) version.
>
> What are they discussing on that one?
> ... how about this one to risk assassination by?:..."cassingle."

=:-o  ...  ;-)

The 'Moments In Love' 12" (and CD single) features a very short
outtake before 'Beat Box (Diversion 10)' and then another one (the one
you were talking about) introducing 'Love Beat'.

In contrast the singlette (to cowardly use ZTT terminology again)
reverses the order of the two tracks, leaving out the intros - but
therefore has a completely different studio-talk-w/effects link placed
between them.
It's actually hard to write down what they're saying, but I can offer
you an MPEG-3 file, too: <http://set.gmd.de/~fitzner/transcom.mp3>


Greetings

 Joerg



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (ztt) "Laughter" cd at Esprit
Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:17:17 -0500




If anyone is interested, Esprit (http://www.eil.co.uk/) has a copy of Act's
"Laughter, Tears, and Rage" cd for 25UKP.

-Dean


It's already been sold.  I just got off the phone with them, and I was too late.

Mike



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) somewhat off ZTT topic
Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:42:05 -0500


     Joerg wrote:

     >It's actually hard to write down what they're saying, but I can offer
     >you an MPEG-3 file, too: <http://set.gmd.de/~fitzner/transcom.mp3>


     I'd love to listen to this, but I don't know what kind of software
     that I need to have.  Can someone direct me to a place on the web
     where I can get this?  (Preferably for free??)

     Thanks;

     Mike



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From: [e-mail] (James Dawson)
Subject: (ztt) Howard Stern and FGTH
Date: 12 Feb 1998 09:45:53 -0800 (PST)


On the Thursday (Feb. 12) Howard Stern radio show, Stern did a live spot for
CDNOW that made me prick up my ears (so to speak). For any non-Americans
reading this, Stern does a "shock-jock" morning talk show that is syndicated
throughout the US and in Canada. In the CDNOW commercial, he said (I'm
paraphrasing): "The CDNOW website is great for when you want to buy
embarrassing stuff that you wouldn't want to be seen buying in a store, like
John Denver's Greatest Hits, or...what was the name of that group that was
openly gay?" His co-host suggested Queen, but Stern said, "No, that other
one, they did that Relax song." Another staffer in the background said,
"Frankie, Frankie Goes to Hollywood." Stern said, "Yeah, that's it. Frankie
Goes to Hollywood. Or maybe if you want to buy some Judy Garland CDs..."

FGTH is one of my favorite groups ever, but I thought that exchange was
hilarious. I guess any publicity is good publicity...

--James Dawson
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (ztt) somewhat off ZTT topic
Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:50:54 -0800 (PST)


>      I'd love to listen to this, but I don't know what kind of software
>      that I need to have.  Can someone direct me to a place on the web
>      where I can get this?  (Preferably for free??)

http://www.mp3.com/
has tons of MPEG-I audio layer 3 (.mp3) software.


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From: "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (ztt) Who's Recognizing The Voice? (Of Gary Langan!)
Date: 12 Feb 1998 17:31:41 -0800


I=92ve always thought that the Beat Box / Moments In Love verbal =
exchange
was between Anne and JJ. I=92ve got an old videotape interview with her
and JJ from the In Visible Silence era and the voices sound similar,
though I=92m certainly not 100% sure.

For the person looking for MP3 software, look for an app named =
=93WinAMP=94;
it=92s the best one I=92ve found on the net and is free. (Mac, Win32 =
and DOS
versions available). Web location is http://winamp.lh.net/main.html
<http://winamp.lh.net/main.html> . One of these days, I=92ll finish
ripping all of my FGTH/AON discs to MP3 format so I can listen to them
without swapping CDs every 10 minutes=85=20

Regards,
Ian



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (ztt) Anne Dudley bio and pic
Date: 13 Feb 1998 12:07:03 -0800 (PST)


Found this while looking for something else...

    http://www.lordofthedance.com/adudley.html

And this page has an interesting pic of JJ Jeczalik:

    http://www.fairlightesp.com.au/thestor99y1.html

Mike


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From: artisan2 <[e-mail]>
Date: 13 Feb 1998 13:36:30 -0500


Hey,... has there been any posting traffic in the past 36 hours? I think
I got unsubscribed somehow against my will.

          James Scott Coward

          [e-mail]



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From: "Mark Wasiel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) spz gone...sarm replaces
Date: 13 Feb 1998 18:07:52 -0800


The old management site of www.spz.com has been replaced
by www.sarm.com.  I like the Sarm name better.

Andy Richards still is designing the site.  It still lists Trevor as being
in LA working on the new AON album.

The graphics have been updated somewhat.  Other than that, the info looked
the same.

They have added a Links page but there is nothing under it yet!

Mark Wasiel



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From: [e-mail] (Jeff A Hamilton)
Subject: (ztt) ZTT terminology and ordinary ISPs
Date: 14 Feb 1998 01:24:28 -0500


I have heard the term "albumette" (specifically, used in reference to
"Into Battle" which is an EP) but not the term "singlette". However, the
term sounds rather redundant, unless it is used in reference to a very
short single.

Just a thought.

I have FINALLY gotten back on line, so by Monday I am going to switch to
an ordinary address instead of this juno crap (and JohnJrDPD can block
the *@juno.com folks again) and I can get back up to date with everything
that's not happening in the wonderful of ZTT!

I will take for granted that everything worth browsing is linkeed to
Lazlo's part of the world, if not - somebody tell me where to go.



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From: "Mark Wasiel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) wedding singer FGTH reference...
Date: 14 Feb 1998 00:47:55 -0800


Not only does the new movie The Wedding Singer have the President's of The
USA covering the Buggles' "Video Killed The Radio Star", but one of the
characters in the movie is wearing a bootleg (I hope!) RELAX t-shirt.
There's also a line he says, but I don't want to ruin it for you all.

Check it out ZTT fans.

Cheers,
Mark Wasiel



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From: "graphicdesignstudent'98" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda is Back.
Date: 14 Feb 1998 13:00:46 +0000 (GMT)


Hello to all ZTT fans,
Thought you'd like to know (if you didn't already) that the original
Propaganda group from the early 80's have reformed, minus one of the
group [either Ralf or Michael I think].
They are writing material at this very moment and have already written
some songs for their new album.
This information was discovered a few days ago on one of the links at my
website which is at:
http://members.tripod.com/~jmccormick (go to 'directory' then 'music')
Beware though, I tried to access this link today, but it seems to have
suddenly disappeared. I caught it just in time to find this information out.
This is my first communication on 'ztt@mission' since I subscribed, hope
this makes someone's day.
John McCormick.


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From: "Ian J. Harris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) "Laughter" cd at Shakedown
Date: 14 Feb 1998 13:26:21 +0000



> If anyone is interested, Esprit (http://www.eil.co.uk/) has a copy of Ac=
t's
> "Laughter, Tears, and Rage" cd for 25UKP.
>
> -Dean

 Shakedown Records in London have one for =A310.  Their number is 0171
284 2402.

~ Ian


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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Release, Do It!
Date: 20 Feb 1998 18:08:47 +0100 (MET)


Hello!

Inspired by all the many postings about most desired, long overdue,
rarity-rereleases from ZTT here on the list, I also want do bring in
my ideas about all this.

The basic question is of course whether ZTT still owns the copyright to
the material in question (especially action series era).  So let's assume
they do have.
In this case the question arises, what's the current release status of
the standard repertoire stuff (e.g. Welcome To The Pleasuredome, Daft)?!
Wouldn't it be a great opportunity, if the Warner reissues would have to
go out of print and vanish from the market?  This would offer ZTT the unique
chance to bring out some decent rereleases, reprocessing their past.
However even in this case there's a small question mark regarding some
antique rare mixes: even if they have the rights to it, do they also have
the technical requisites to reissue it on CD?  I mean, have they preserved
the master tapes in good condition? (Some of the 1993 Japanese CD bonus
tracks sounded quite poor compared to 80s CD-issues from ZTT.)  But let's
assume even this is the case.  So, everything could be so perfect...

Surely, it would mean ZTT had to invest some (financial) effort to get this
whole thing going.  But I'm sure any distributor would be licking his fingers
for stuff like Frankie Goes To Hollywood or Art Of Noise (with even new
material in the pipeline).

So if all this preconditions are given (technically, legally, marketing),
the only decision to make is: WHICH TRACKS TO RERELEASE?
Knowing that this is actually a very difficult question, and to make it
easier for ZTT, I have here already performed this crucial task for them,
including the necessary research!

Here's my concept:  Release all ZTT albums to a certain point (i.e. all
originally released until 1990).  Supply all them with bonus tracks (or a
whole bonus disc, depending on the amount of essential material piled up)
to boost sales!
Maybe a marketing strategy would suggest to let the bonus stuff come only
with a limited first edition of all the rerelease-CDs - also good.

In the following I have listed my idea of what such rereleases could look
like.  I selected the bonus tracks very carefully, including some very
rare and sought after (sometimes promo-only) versions, some only rare on CD
yet, some not really that rare but therefore essential mixes, and some
B-sides.  And there's still left out enough material to keep the collectors
proud of their old original records.
I compiled all CDs to play around 70 minutes to leave space for some
completely unreleased stuff that we all don't know yet.


CD-reissues with (limited) Bonus-CDs:
* Frankie Goes To Hollywood: Welcome To The Pleasuredome
* The Art Of Noise: Who's Afraid Of?
* Propaganda: A Secret Wish
* Frankie Goes To Hollywood: Liverpool
* Act: Laughter, Tears And Rage

CD-reissues with Bonus-Tracks:
* <V/A>: The Shape Of The Universe - A Souvenir Of Insignificance
* Grace Jones: Slave To The Rhythm
* Andrew Poppy: The Beating Of Wings
* <V/A>: Zang Tuum Tumb Sampled
* Anne Pigalle: Everythig Could Be So Perfect
* Andrew Poppy: Alphabed - A Mystery Dance

* Nasty Rox Inc.: Cash
* 808 State: 90
* MC Tunes: The North At Its Heights
* Hoodlum Priest: Heart Of Darkness

new double-CD compilation:
--------------------------
* <V/A>: Zang Tuum Tumb Dusted



* Frankie Goes To Hollywood: Welcome To The Pleasuredome  {LP version}
  w/bonus disc: "Beyond Pleasuredome" (70.41)
      1.40   The World Is My Oyster [Acappella - 12" B-side]
      8.20   Relax (Original Sex Mix - Edit)
      3.31   Relax (The Last Seven Inches!)
      9.07   Two Tribes (Annihilation)
      1.14   The Last Voice
      5.07   Two Tribes [808 State Remix]
      4.56   One February Friday [7" B-side]
      2.30   The World Is My Oyster [Instrumental - 12" B-side]
      9.45   Welcome To The Pleasuredome (Pleasure Fix - Instrumental)
     12.19   Welcome To The Pleasuredome (The Alternative - 'Fruitness')
      4.13   The World Is My Oyster [7" B-side]
      3.28   Get It On [Full Version]
      4.07   Happy Hi! [Full Version]

* The Art Of Noise: Who's Afraid Of?  {w/long "Snapshot" (2.34)}
  w/bonus disc: "Into Battle"+"Tie Break" (71.32)
      0.25   Battle
      4.49   Beat Box [Diversion Zero]
      2.03   The Army Now
      1.44   Donna
     10.17   Moments In Love
      0.05   Bright Noise
      1.23   Flesh In Armour
      1.18   Comes And Goes
      1.26   Moment In Love
      ----
      2.55   Beat Box [U.S. Edit]
      6.02   Beat Box (Diversion Two)
      x.xx   Beat Box (Diversion Three)
      x.xx   Beat Box (Diversion Four)
      3.10   (Do) Donna (Do)
      7.15   Closely Closely (Enough's Enough)
      5.32   Edited
      3.32   A Time To Hear (Who's Listening)
      6.58   Moments In Love (Beaten)
      5.15   Love Beat

* Propaganda: A Secret Wish  {w/"Frozen Faces" (4.22) and short "Jewel" (3.09)}
  w/bonus disc: "The Return Of The Devil's Advocate" (69.02)
      5.41   Dr. Mabuse Der Spieler [7" B-side]
     10.14   Das Testament Des Mabuse
      6.36   Dr. Mabuse (13th Life Mix)
      3.21   Femme Fatale (The Woman With The Orchid)
      4.18   The Lesson
      7.36   Duel (Bittersweet)
      6.53   Jewel (Cut Rough)
      9.24   p:Machinery (Polish)
      4.17   p:Machinery [Reactivated Single Remix]
     10.22   (The Echo Of) Frozen Faces

* <V/A>: The Shape Of The Universe - A Souvenir Of Insignificance
  w/bonus tracks: (70.20)
      5.50   Roy Orbison: Wild Hearts (...And Time Again)
      3.30   Roy Orbison: Wild Hearts (...Voiceless)
      2.08   Roy Orbison: Ooby Dooby (...Revive)
      1.01   Glenn Gregory & Claudi Brucken: Out Of Time
      0.18   The Voices Of Gary Busey, Michael Emil And Theresa Russell
      6.41   Glenn Gregory & Claudi Brucken: When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time (6'20")
      3.48   Glenn Gregory & Claudi Brucken: When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time (Drumless)
      0:54   The Voices Of Michael Emil And Theresa Russell

* Grace Jones: Slave To The Rhythm  {long version w/interview bits}
  w/bonus tracks: (60.33)
      8.26   Slave To The Rhythm (Blooded)
      5.17   Junkyard
      3.37   Annihilated Rhythm

* Andrew Poppy: The Beating Of Wings
  w/bonus tracks: (73.27)
      8.33   32 Frames For Orchestra [12" Version]
     15.53   The Impossible Net

* <V/A>: Zang Tuum Tumb Sampled
  w/bonus tracks: (62.06+x.xx)
      1.11   Das Psych-oh Rangers: Homage To The Blessed
      9.03   Das Psych-oh Rangers: The Essential Art Of Communication (Extra Extra)
      3.18   Das Psych-oh Rangers: He He Radical [Single Version]
      3.41   Das Psych-oh Rangers: Medea Tearorists [Single Version]
      x.xx   Andrew Poppy: Inside The Wolf

* Anne Pigalle: Everythig Could Be So Perfect
  w/bonus tracks: (71.38)
      7.28   He Stranger [Extended Version]
      4.42   Stranger (Than Fiction)
      3.37   Johnny
      4.17   Faut-il vraiement que ce soit comme ca (Why Does It Have To Be This Way)
      4.39   Why Does It Have To Be This Way (Piano Version)
      3.25   Like We Do
      3.12   Intermission (Les dieux s'ennuient)
      4.55   La valse aux mille couleurs (The 1000 Colours Waltz)

* Frankie Goes To Hollywood: Liverpool
  w/bonus disc: "London" (70.00)
     12.10   Rage Hard (+)
      8.40   Rage Hard (++)
      7.00   Rage Hard (U.S. Remix)
      8.13   Warriors (Turn Of The Knife Mix)
      6.19   Warriors (Return)
      3.33   Warriors (End)
      6.30   Warriors (Attack)
      9.09   Watching The Wildlife (Hotter)
      5.03   Watching The Wildlife (Voiceless - incl. Bits 1+2)
      3.03   The Waves

* Andrew Poppy: Alphabed - A Mystery Dance
  w/bonus tracks: (70.17)
      3.50   Listening In (Re-modelled)
      7.35   The Amusement [12" Version]
     17.00   Kink Konk Presto / East Fragment / Kink Konk Adagio

* Act: Laughter, Tears And Rage  {CD version}
  w/bonus disc: "Extra Chance" (70.38)
      9.46   Snobbery & Decay (That's Entertainment)
      8.30   Snobbery & Decay (Extended, For Stephanie Beacham)
      3.25   (Theme From) Snobbery & Decay
     12.02   Snobbery & Decay (Moonlighting Mix Part I & II)
      6.02   Strong Poison
      5.36   Absolutely Immune (II)
      2.30   White Rabbit
      7.24   I Can't Escape From You (Love & Hate)
      3.19   Dear Life
      4.19   (We Give You Another) Chance!
      6.18   Winner 88x [12" Version]
      1.03   Theme From Laughter

* Nasty Rox Inc.: Cash
  w/bonus tracks: (67.18)
      7.25   Escape From New York (2)
      3.36   Escape From New York (Radio Edit)
      4.05   Escape From New York (Snake Mix)

* 808 State: 90
  w/bonus tracks: (68.45)
      4.27   Pacific (b)
      9.52   Pacific (909)
      4.50   Cobra Bora (Call The Cops Mix)
      5.41   Ancodia (Taters Deep Nit Funky Beat Mix)
      4.31   Olympic State (Original Mix)

* MC Tunes: The North At Its Heights
  w/bonus tracks: (70.50)
      4.17   The Only Rhyme That Bites (Extended Version)
      3.16   The Only Rhyme That Bytes [Instrumental - 7" Version]
      3.11   Tunes Splits The Atom (Zero Gravity Mix)
      4.16   Tunes Splits The Atom (Creamatomic Rap)
      4.18   Dance Yourself To Death (Bassless Mix)
      5.33   Dance Yourself To Death [License To Thrill Mix]
      4.30   Primary Rhyming (Extended Mix)

* Hoodlum Priest: Heart Of Darkness  {CD version}
  w/bonus tracks: (61.43)
      6.05   Crime Inc.
      6.10   Caucasian (Hoodlum City Mix)
      3.26   Caucasian (Hard Mix)

* <V/A>: Zang Tuum Tumb Dusted
  CD#1: (64.16+x.xx)
      x.xx   Hoodlum Priest: Copkiller
      4.58   Lomax: Hold On [Album Version]
      4.20   Time Unlimited: Men Of Wadodem [Original Mix]
      4.55   Sun Electric: Turn-On (137 bpm)
      6.20   Sun Electric: Will The World Remember?
      5.39   Lorenza: Jerusalem (Green And Pleasant Mix)
      4:29   Switzerland: Chuck Apple Mad
      4.31   General Max: We Can Do It (Original Mix)
      5.00   Solid State Logic: Rise (Wired Mix)
      5.12   Mantra: Intensify (I Love You) [Full Version]
      7.32   Shades Of Rhythm: Sound Of Eden (VFT Mix)
      6.24   Kirsty MacColl: Angel (Stuart Crichton Remix)
      4.30   Tara: Save Me From Myself [Original Version]
  CD#2: (72.00)
      5.18   Honky: Love Thy Neighbour (Rubber Dub)
      5.52   L.A.Z.Y: When We Were Young (North West Remix)
      5.59   808 State: Insane Lover (Analogue Mix)
      6.40   808 State: Freak (Astroban Mix)
      6.28   Tom Jones: Situation (The Extended Mix)
      6.40   Tom Jones: Love Is On Our Side (Liquid Dub)
      6.16   All Saints 1.9.7.5: Let's Get Started (The Heavenly Mix)
      4.38   The Frames D.C.: Monument (DJ Mek Remix)
      3.49   Shane MacGowan: My Way [Original Version]
      6.55   Sexus: How Do You (English) Kiss? (Narcotic Thrust Kiss-A-Mix)
      4.58   Adamski's Thing: Existential Boredom (Medium)
      8.01   Adamski's Thing: Existential Boredom (Lewd Beats)


Now it's up to ZTT!

Joerg
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From: Jeff Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) The Art of Noise discography
Date: 21 Feb 1998 00:10:14 -0500


I downloaded a copy of the AoN discography from Lazlo's site perhaps three
years ago; now that I'm looking for the updated version, I can't seem to
locate it. (Every band on earth except AoN is listed in the "discography
machine" and while the search has an impressive output, I don't know for a
fact that it's the entire discography file.) If someone could just drop me
an address, I would appreciate it.



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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) The Art of Noise discography
Date: 20 Feb 1998 22:11:32 -0700 (MST)


> I downloaded a copy of the AoN discography from Lazlo's site perhaps three
> years ago; now that I'm looking for the updated version, I can't seem to
> locate it. (Every band on earth except AoN is listed in the "discography
> machine" and while the search has an impressive output, I don't know for a
> fact that it's the entire discography file.) If someone could just drop me
> an address, I would appreciate it.

The AoN discog doesn't exist as a standalone document, and hasn't for probably
five years.  If you search the ZTT discography for "Art of Noise" you'll get
everything.

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From: Devinder Gill <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Art of noise web site
Date: 22 Feb 1998 00:12:53 +0000


Just a quickie. There's some been some development on the Art of Noise
pages on the ztt web site. Looks like they're starting to gear
themselves up. And it looks as if Paul Morley's been near the PC as
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From: Jeff Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Art of noise web site
Date: 21 Feb 1998 22:16:09 -0500


This is without doubt the greatest day of my life. No news is not only good
news, it's the best news I've heard since "In No Sense? Nonsense!" And I
haven't even *heard* anything yet.

Can't wait for the album.

WOO HOO!!!



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From: [e-mail] (James Dawson)
Subject: (ztt) FGTH Reference in Wedding Singer
Date: 22 Feb 1998 12:30:50 -0800 (PST)


Warning: Following is the rather unsurprising line of dialog in "The Wedding
Singer" that goes along with the appearance of a FGTH "Relax" shirt in that
film. Scroll past this post if you don't want it revealed (but, seriously,
it's not anything impressive):

I don't think I'm ruining anyone's moviegoing experience by revealing that
the line is simply, "Relax, don't do it." Like most of the movie, it is just
another '80s reference among many that is not especially clever or funny,
but instead conveys nothing more than a pleasant sense of nostalgia.

And why "The Wedding Singer"'s closing credits feature a REMAKE of "Video
Killed the Radio Star" (by the President of the United States of America)
instead of the Buggles version is a mystery, considering that the rest of
the soundtrack is all pure-'80s originals. It was kind of jarring to be
brought back into the comparatively awful present-day music scene so
abruptly at the movie's end...

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From: Ian Peel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Release, Do It!
Date: 21 Feb 1998 10:50:56 +0000


Good stuff...  But,

>      x.xx   Andrew Poppy: Inside The Wolf

what's this?

>* Nasty Rox Inc.: Cash
>  w/bonus tracks: (67.18)
>      7.25   Escape From New York (2)
>      3.36   Escape From New York (Radio Edit)
>      4.05   Escape From New York (Snake Mix)

There's also another mix - which I have on a 7" acetate...  I dont think
it appears anywhere else (certainly not officially)...

ALSO -- nice to see ZTT's mistakes catching up on them: MC Tunes
brilliant new band Dust Junkies were on prime time UK TV (TFI Friday)
last night - Tunes back again, 7 years after being dumped by ZTT... and
on the same show that says All Saints are the sexiest band ever...
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From: "Alberto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Release, Do It! / Hoodlum Priest
Date: 22 Feb 1998 14:07:42 +0100


> Excerpt from Joerg Fitzner's dream releases:
>
>* <V/A>: Zang Tuum Tumb Dusted
>  CD#1: (64.16+x.xx)
>      x.xx   Hoodlum Priest: Copkiller



Copkiller (6:20) is available on Hoodlum Priest's second album 'Beneath The
Pavement ... The Beach', which was released in 1994 on Concrete Productions
in a limited edition of 1200.

It is not listed on the sleeve, however, and it isn't even a proper track on
the disc. In fact it is in the gap between track 2 and 3, which means you
won't even find it when skipping through the tracks.

Cheers,
Alberto


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From: "Boaz Halachmi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda is talking Hebrew???
Date: 24 Feb 1998 03:57:00 +0200


Hello all,

I`m a bit confused...maybe it`s something i drunk...or...
but when i went through http://www.propaganda.de
i heard a sound file.
I think it`s in Hebrew...
It says (in rough translation): "Oh! Oh! How do i feel? Maybe i`ll go on
with it...?"
Arrrrr...am i dreaming? What is that site?

(The sleepless) Boaz




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From: [e-mail] (jon masciana)
Subject: (ztt) 12" mixes on cdr of some groups you might like....
Date: 25 Feb 1998 01:17:52 -0800 (PST)



Well, I'm sending this message to my fave mailing lists since you might be
interested in this. I've had a big response for those Orb cd-rs I'm making
and I thought I'd do a whole series of artists also since I know many of
you probably would like some of those cool 12" only mixes on cd, or you
just don't want to wear out the vinyl. I'm eventually going to put my
entire collection on cd so if you want a copy of stuff I have, let me know.
The following is a listing of some stuff I was going to put on cdr for some
of my fave groups. Let me know if you're interested in any of them (I'll
customize them for you if you want.) Each cd-r is $15.00 (for anything you
want and that includes shipping). I'm not going to do anything that's still
in print since that's just not right, but I figure out of print stuff isn't
too bad...If you have different suggestions for what you want, let me know.
All 12" remixes are going to be cleaned with Cool Edit Pro and Sound Forge
to reduce the noise from the original source. I hope to have the cds
sounding better than the originals...

All of the remixes come from white labels, promos, deleted or limited
singles and stuff. I do have some Dj mixes, let me know if you want em. If
you want to forward this to other interested mailing lists, that's okay,
but I am trying to keep it low key....=o) Here's a brief listing of the
bands you'll find:

Check out the following page for synth artists:

www.groovemusic.com/synthpop.html

Artists featured: Art of Noise, Baby Ford (Rhythm King), Bananarama,
Beloved, Boxcar, Brilliant, Gray Clail/Tackhead, Dead Or Alive (Fan the
Flame 2, remixes), erasure, Falco, Information Society (Creatures of
Influence, remixes), I Start Counting, Jesus loves You, Madonna, Men
Without Hats (Interview), New order/Electronic (Until the end of time), Pet
Shop boys, Pop Will Eat Itself, Real Life, Re-Flex, Propaganda, Swing Out
Sister, Talk Talk, Lost Tracks and One Hit Synth Wonders...

Electronic artists featured at:

www.groovemusic.com/electronic.html

Artists featured: Altern 8, BT, Richard Dekkard, Sasha, Chemical Brothers,
Fluke, Fortran 5, Hani, KLF, Leftfield, Lionrock, Orb, Orbital, William
Orbit (lots and lots), Prodigy, Rabbit in the Moon, Salt Tank, S'Express,
Spooky, System 7, Underworld, Paul Van Dyk remixes

Take care,

Jon




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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Release, Do It! / Hoodlum Priest
Date: 26 Feb 1998 15:46:24 +0100 (MET)


> >* <V/A>: Zang Tuum Tumb Dusted
> >  CD#1: (64.16+x.xx)
> >      x.xx   Hoodlum Priest: Copkiller
>
> Copkiller (6:20) is available on Hoodlum Priest's second album 'Beneath The
> Pavement ... The Beach', which was released in 1994 on Concrete Productions
> in a limited edition of 1200. [...]

Yeah, but I'd hope that ZTT might have a different version of it.
In an interview with Convulsion magazine Derek Thomson said that the
version on Beneath The Pavement was 'a monitor mix' (whatever that may
be), which ZTT wasn't aware of...

Joerg



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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Release, Do It!
Date: 26 Feb 1998 16:50:27 +0100 (MET)


> Good stuff...  But,
>
> >      x.xx   Andrew Poppy: Inside The Wolf
>
> what's this?

A friend of mine's got an acetate 12" of it.  I've never heard it, but
he said it's from his ZTT era, made for some TV show.

> >* Nasty Rox Inc.: Cash
> >  w/bonus tracks: (67.18)
> >      7.25   Escape From New York (2)
> >      3.36   Escape From New York (Radio Edit)
> >      4.05   Escape From New York (Snake Mix)
>
> There's also another mix - which I have on a 7" acetate...  I dont think
> it appears anywhere else (certainly not officially)...

Cool, this CD would be a bit short with 67 mins anyway!
How's that mix - very different from all the others?
Can you send us the details for the discography, please?


Joerg



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From: Larry MacGregor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) 808 track on new compilation
Date: 26 Feb 1998 17:30:07 -0500


I found a new multi disc set last night -- "Technicians of Electronica"
with "Joyrider (Natural Mix)" on it.
It's on Hypnotic -- CLP 0189-2

Some more info on the package -- it says "Includes free surprise CD of
pure electronica"  and "Top European Acts" on the outer slip case.  It's
3 CDs.  Aside from 808 State, there's also A Guy Called Gerald, Pop Will
Eat Itself, Color Box  (not sure if that ought to be "Colour Box" or
not) and Gong to name a few.

The bonus CD appears to be Virtualizer (?), the title might be "Sex
Technologie - The Future" and it has a separate catalog number on the
disc - CLEO 9503-2

I haven't listened to it yet . . .
More details as necessary


Larry


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From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: YAMO track on new compilation (was Re: (ztt) 808 track on new compilation)
Date: 26 Feb 1998 14:57:37 -0800 (PST)


> From: Larry MacGregor <[e-mail]>
>
> I found a new multi disc set last night -- "Technicians of Electronica"
> with "Joyrider (Natural Mix)" on it.
> It's on Hypnotic -- CLP 0189-2

More importantly, it has a mix of Yamo's "Mosquito" on it!

I for the most part liked the tracks included on the two discs, and found
the third ("bouns") disc a throwaway...

-CRZ




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From: Ian Peel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Release, Do It! / Hoodlum Priest
Date: 26 Feb 1998 19:47:24 +0000


>> Copkiller (6:20) is available on Hoodlum Priest's second album 'Beneath The
>> Pavement ... The Beach', which was released in 1994 on Concrete Productions
>> in a limited edition of 1200. [...]
>
>Yeah, but I'd hope that ZTT might have a different version of it.
>In an interview with Convulsion magazine Derek Thomson said that the
>version on Beneath The Pavement was 'a monitor mix' (whatever that may
>be), which ZTT wasn't aware of...

possibly a studio take, recorded straight off the monitors/desk?
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From: Ian Peel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Release, Do It!
Date: 26 Feb 1998 19:45:48 +0000


>> >* Nasty Rox Inc.: Cash
>> >  w/bonus tracks: (67.18)
>> >      7.25   Escape From New York (2)
>> >      3.36   Escape From New York (Radio Edit)
>> >      4.05   Escape From New York (Snake Mix)
>>
>> There's also another mix - which I have on a 7" acetate...  I dont think
>> it appears anywhere else (certainly not officially)...
>
>Cool, this CD would be a bit short with 67 mins anyway!
>How's that mix - very different from all the others?
>Can you send us the details for the discography, please?

very different - with a completely different snare drum intro...
details soon...

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From: "Mark Wasiel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Soren's fantastic mp3!
Date: 26 Feb 1998 18:15:38 -0800


I don't know if everybody checked this out yet...but it's a MUST DOWNLOAD!
All you Horny freaks out there will have your mind blown when you hear it.
It's definitely worth the download time.

Here's the original message in case you missed it:

Last Friday a DJ at Denmarks Radio made a feature on Trevor Horn. This DJ
is very fascinated by Trevor and how he was the first to use sampled break
beats to make new music. So he told the story about how Trevor used he's
inspiration from working with The Supreme Team when he was producing Yes
Owner of a Lonely Heart.

This is really essential stuff for anyone who is interested in Trevor
Horn and how music changed by the use of samplers. That's why I've made a
copy of a selected part of the feature for everybody.

Check: www.kom.auc.dk/~sorenl/horn.zip     (2,5 Mb MP3 sample)

Prior to this piece of the feature the DJ has told the story about The
Supreme Team and how Trevor Horn had bought this new invention called a
Fairlight. In this piece it's shown how Trevor sampled three little pieces
(limited by the sampler) of a Funk Inc. record and used it on the Yes
track. It's very detailed and I think it's slended. The DJ speaks Danish
but I think the music speaks for itself.



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From: Joerg Fitzner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (ztt) Soren's fantastic mp3!
Date: 27 Feb 1998 15:58:23 +0100 (MET)


> I don't know if everybody checked this out yet...but it's a MUST DOWNLOAD!
> All you Horny freaks out there will have your mind blown when you hear it.
> It's definitely worth the download time.
> [...]
> Check: www.kom.auc.dk/~sorenl/horn.zip     (2,5 Mb MP3 sample)

Yeah, it's cool!  And I didn't know this "Funk Inc." track at all!

Anyway, for the ones who have heard the excerpt, here's my thoughts,
which I already wrote to Soren:
I wouldn't nail it all down to Trevor Horn alone.  Especially not such
details as of who choose which specific sample to place where.  I assume
that the others of the 'ZTT building team' gave their creative input
too.  And who knows exactly who had which idea in building "Owner Of A
Lonely" exactly like it is?
I guess it's more the synergetical power of a great constellation of
people.


Joerg


P.S.:  Of course I didn't understand what the presenter was saying,
       since I don't speak Danish.  But I couldn't hear another name
       but "Trevor Horn", "Trevor Horn", "Trevor Horn" - thus my
       comment.  (And you all know I like Trevor Horn!)



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From: david richards <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Holly Johnson- Questions for!
Date: 27 Feb 1998 13:45:53 -0500


Hi,
Mr. Johnson has agrred to an interview with Lexicon Magazine. I have a
list of questions, but thought it might be good to solicit some from the
list serv group. So please send me any reasonable questions you might
have ASAP!. I need to have them by Sunday evening

Thanks
-David Richards
Editor
Lexicon
PO Box 1734
Wheaton, MD 20915



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From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bronis=B3aw_Janik?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda lyrics
Date: 27 Feb 1998 12:59:01 +0100


Hi.  My name is Bronek.  I just joined the mailing list.  I have a
question:  Does anyone know where I can get a lyrics from  Propaganda
album" A Sicret Wish"
I've been looking for that on many sites and I can't find it.
If anyone knows I'd really appreciate the help!

                        Thanks!
                            Bronek




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From: "graphicdesignstudent'98" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Supreme Records
Date: 28 Feb 1998 11:37:56 +0000 (GMT)


Hi everyone,
Does anyone out there know the Label 'Supreme Records'?
I've just bought second-hand for a few pounds the Mel & Kim
album F.L.M. from the mid/late eighties.
Incidentally I say mid/late eighties as this was issued without any date
on the sleeve or cassette!
This album has great characteritic sounds from the Fairlight sequencer
and as I'm a PSB fan aswell, maybe you can understand this.
What I'm wondering (as I don't have too much background knowledge) is
whether this label has (or has had) anything to do with ZTT?
I ask this because this (cassette) issue is 'ZCSU2', and I know that the
Propaganda 'A Secret Wish' cassette is 'ZCIQ3'...Is there any
relationship between the two as I know that usually no two different
labels have the same numbering system.
Thanks,
John.
(Coventry, England).


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