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ztt-digest            Monday, June 21 1999            Volume 02 : Number 115




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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:47:17 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (ztt) Propagandas new release???????

In a message dated 6/18/99 6:40:05 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<
When will the new Propaganda album be released? Any word of another Claudia
solo project? Will they (or she)ever tour the U.S.?Can anyone answer any or
all of these questions?....thank you,Joe >>

The last thing I heard was a late summer/early fall tentative release for the
new album. (Can't remember where I heard that.. Might've been on this
list...?) I keep checking the Eastwest Records website looking for info, but
nothing...

Claudia stated in a (relatively) recent issue of Mojo, that for the past
several years, she's been raising her daughter, living off royalties, and
that since her daughter's birth, her life had changed drastically - but she
still sounded very "Claudia." (Note: the word "Claudia" is now officially an
adjective.)  :)

Didn't someone on the list (several months ago) say that they were set to
interview/forward questions to her? I never heard anything further on that.

Your Decaying Snob,
Zteven



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:03:09 -0400
From: Charles Daraghy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) ztis cassette singles

I was looking through Lazlo's ztt discography and I noticed there were
several mixes that seemed to be cassette-single only
or, renamed as such.

As far as propaganda and frankie are concerned  (then again, who else
had 'collectible' ztt cassette singles?)
what mixes are most unique, most valuable.

I just got a P:machinery one, but haven't listened to it yet because it
arrived in such poor condition

I really envy the Duel one, and Mabuse doesn't seem like there's
anything special about it.
It seems the 'relax' one is pretty neat too.

Did 808 state ever have anything -cassette only- ?

- -Charlie



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:06:03 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (ztt) hoodlum priest

I just got myself a new hifi set-up and this involves me getting rid of loads
of vinyl, so before I get rid of the Hoodlum Priest album, does anyone here
want it ?

But no I will not be getting rid of my Propaganda singles

ade


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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:05:48 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Alex Veronac)
Subject: (ztt) Re: Bud stage show...

Charles Daraghy [mailto:[e-mail]] writes:
Modern English put out a new album 2/3 years ago
it didn't do well
i guess it was the same stuff, considering it has a re-mahe of "Melt
with You"

alex v.
>
>Subject: Bud stage show...
>
>Is the band "Modern English" the original band? I haven't heard of
>them
>doing any recordings or tours in like 10 years.



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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:59:03 -0700
From: "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (ztt) ztis cassette singles

A couple of the cassette singles were released a few years later as
Japanese-only CD singles. The AON cassingle "Closely, Closely" comes to mind
as one of those. I was so careful with that cassette: I would make copies
off my "master" and listen to those out of fear I'd screw the cassette up
somehow. Finally snagged the CD single (a 3" single, no less) and now just
listen to the MP3s.

Some things never change. :)
ianf


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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:54:55 +0100
From: Smiley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) i'm out of here.....for a while...

evening all,

i'm going out of the country for a couple of weeks, so:

i. that's why i won't be replying to emails

ii. those who have sent me money for records, which has yet to arrive, it
should turn up by the time i'm back - i'll let you know.

iii. those who owe me money but HAVEN'T sent it yet - please make sure that
it gets to me by the time i'm back, as i've been waiting a LONG TIME.

back july 5th.

cheers.

- ---
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 02:13:42 -0700
From: Geoff Davies <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) The AON Yahoo chat

It's up.  It didn't do anything for me but make up your own mind.
Strangely enough the yahoo site takes you to sonicnet.

http://www.sonicnet.com/artists/ai_fullchat.jhtml?id=513929&ai_id=2022

Geoff.


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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:20:17 -0700
From: Cliff Tuel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) AoN "Moments in Love" cover

The group Dancing Fantasy has lost the last of their credibility by doing a jazz
cover of "Moments in Love".  There's a RealAudio clip at CDNow:

  pnm://rm.musicserver2.com/~vv-450166/0212888_0105_07_0002.ra

(might need to cut & paste this into your RealAudio player)

Wooof!

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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:33:59 -0700
From: "Mark Wasiel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Trevor Horn LIVE in Los Angeles June 25th

Attention people of Los Angeles,
Trevor Horn will be performing live with Sir George Martin and the L.A. Bowl
orchestra this Friday the 25th.   I was listening to the local (& greatest!)
public radio station, KCRW 89.9 fm (http://www.kcrw.org) and they mentioned
this Hollywood Bowl concert of Beatles music with many special guests.  When
they announced Trevor Horn ("former member of Yes") I nearly drove off the
road.  Actually, I nearly drove off the road when they announced that one of
the other artists performing would be the reunited Bangles?!?!  Huh?! :)

It sounds like a weird show that's for sure but I wanted to post the info in
case someone wants to go.  It's obviously a very rare occasion to see Trevor
perform live.  I'm assuming that he will be singing a song or two.  I might
go if I can get some cheap tickets.

Mark Wasiel
http://home.pcmagic.net/markw

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:34:50 +0300
From: "Roger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) AoN UK Chart position

"Metaforce" reached no. 53 on the UK singles chart, exactly the same
position as Art of Noise's latest hit, "Shades of Paranoimia". Not much
perhaps, but bigger than "Dragnet" or "Yebo".

Check it at www.dotmusic.com/charts/top75singles2.asp

Roger



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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:01:01 -0700
From: jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) FS: Seal, Frankie, propaganda cd singles, ZANCE

I have the following items for sale if anyone is interested:

ZTT Backtrax cd (still sealed) $12
Seal-Future Love EP remixes by Nellee hooper limited UK 12" $12
Frankie Goes to hollywood-Warriors UK cd single (23 minute track!) $12
Seal-Crazy (UK cd single, features accapella and william orbit remix) $10
Seal-I'm Alive UK cd single remixes by Sasha and BT $12
Propaganda-Your Wildlife US promo 12" remixes, mint condition! David
morales remixes $12
Seal-The Beginning uk cd single remixes (Mark Moore and Robin Hancock) $10
Seal-Newborn Friend (UK cd single, david morales, sliver mix) 6 mixes total
$10
ZANCE-ZTT remixed rare german cd of remixes from frankie, propaganda, 808
state, AON exclusive mix and many more $20

Email me if you're interested or have questions about the
tracklisting--thanks!


jon




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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:49:11 -0500
From: James Scott Coward <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) All these AON reviews.

    I'm beginning to find it disappointing to see how few people
understand the purpose behind "The Seduction of Claude Debussy". People
are forgetting this is not, really, an Art Of Noise album per se. As The
Art Of Noise, themselves, have roundly stated, on more than one
occasion, this is a tribute to Claude Debussy and his work. This also
happens to be a dream of Trevor Horn's. I, personally, try not to knock,
criticize or ridicule people's dream projects; they tend to be a more
personal view of what someone wants, likes or thinks. Hell one of my
dreams was to see them get back together. And to think I didn't have to
lift a finger to make it happen. ;-> Now, if I can just get them to
produce for Depeche Mode and Bob Dylan....
    My point is that when you do any tribute performance you wind up
forfeiting a content of your own style to support the work of whom you
are paying tribute. That is, of course, unless you are paying tribute to
yourself. It is just part of the nature of the act. After all, the album
really is AON does Debussy, not AON does AON. Furthermore, they are
demonstrating the point that Debussy's work has engrained itself
into/triggered the forms, styles and feel of 20th Century music. This
causes them to forfeit even more of their own style, in lieu of
Debussy's, to effectively prove their point. In light of this, all they
have left to show for, of themselves, is their production style and
values. When looking at the album objectively, it is nearly a thesis
work in modern music and it's origin. I think people are, too often,
ignoring the album title (and theme implied therein) and concentrating,
only, on the name Art of Noise and the label ZTT. Quite naturally, if
this is all that one does before reviewing the album, then, they,
likely, will be disappointed and will have missed the point.  I, in
fact, did that on the first play. Fortunately, I caught on somewhere
around "approximate mood swing no:2" and played it all over again.
Though, I think that Stravinsky and Mussorgsky also played equal parts
in latter 20th Century music, I happen to agree with AON that Debussy
was the most influential over all.
    I, for one, feel that a tribute album was not necessarily the best
way to make a comeback, though. Here, in the US, they tend to be
regarded as glorified cover-albums, merely, with better packaging.  But,
this is what Anne and Trevor have been enjoying doing in their spare
time. And this music is what brought The Art Of Noise back together. And
you know that means that so is back, the big time Trevor Horn production
machine. Too bad all the bands that they supported in the past aren't
reuniting as well, under ZTT. I'm sure we'll see some new acts get
launched to the forefront under The Art Of Noise's support, though.
Hopefully, none of the new performers will be inclined to pop Trevor in
the eye when their works of art (which Seal couldn't have produced worth
a shit on his own, anyway!!) aren't put out on a regimented schedule
like a Sony Records assembly line, or something. [see tag below for more
on that.]
    Also, this new incarnation of The Art Of Noise is still not going to
sound entirely like the AON of old, simply because they lack the
presence of Gary and JJ. A lot of you people don't seem to think that JJ
amounted to anything, but this new AON album, I think, proves you wrong.
There is barely any of that in-your-face attitude that was felt
throughout "Who's Afraid?" I, personally, can hear a good chunk of that
attitude, however, in a number of tracks from "artosilence.co.uk". Also
they lack that golden EQ touch that Gary is so good at. Trevor is the
master of production and arranging bits and pieces of performances
together and always will be. But, no one has been able to, fully,
replace Gary as production engineer and sound man. The current album is
very full and lush and intricate, but, it gets a little muddy at times.
For me, what has tied it all together, with "Seduction..." was the wise
decision to bring Paul Morley back in. I forgot how much I liked his
style of verse. It's cryptic yet still pretty; and brutally necessary to
complete their image.
    Finally, if you're expecting to hear the old Art Of Noise, then, go
to your CD case and get out the old Art Of Noise. Nothing stays the
same, not even them. Or, nothing stays the same, especially them.
- --     James Scott Coward
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:35:19 GMT
From: Robert Marston <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Custom AON CD

Snippit from theartofnoise.com

*****
The Seduction of Claude Debussy & Custom CD.
Art of Noise find themselves in a position to be officially pleased to offer
all our on line fans a one-off chance to create their very own Art of Noise
customer concieved CD. Just purchase 'The Seduction of Claude Debussy', from
29th June and you will be able to build your own CD, choosing from 12 rare,
quite strange and, in many senses, hard-to-find tracks from the past,
present and future. There are also a choice of 3 titles and 3 covers for you
to choose from. That's really putting the into into interactive.
The various b-sides, outsides, insides and rarities being offered include
the b-side to a 'Close (to the Edit)' 7" single called ' A Time To Hear (
Who's Listening )', a 12" version of Close (to the Edit), various diversions
of 'Beat Box' including a live in the studio version that goes bang bang bom
bom bom bom, and unreleased and once thought lost pieces from the 'Into
Battle' sessions such as 'Memory Loss', 'Stucture', 'The Subject Has Moved
Left' and 'Resin'.
This special promotion is currently available to US residents only and is
distributed by amplified.com to CD Now, Tower, Transworld and National
Record Mart.
To buy the album select from the stores below.
****

US ONLY!!!! AAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! Please tell me we can do this from the
UK as well. If not, is there anyone out there who will purchase this for me
in the US??? I'm sure we can come to some arrangement.



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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:34:07 GMT
From: Robert Marston <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) The Guardian article 21/6/99

There is an article in today's Guardian (G2 page 14). Their internet site
also has a copy of it:

http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/arts/story/0,3604,59907,00.html (I think that
is the right address)






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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:58:54 -0700
From: Cliff Tuel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Re: Custom AON CD

So should I cancel my existing pre-order at CDNow?  The pre-order comes with:

FEAT. HURT/BRADSHAW/RAKIM LMTD ED. BONUS CD
THE SEDUCTION OF CLAUDE DEBUSSY contains a limited edition bonus CD which
includes remixes by Roni Size and Shark Tank.

Do I get this if I wait 'til June 29?  Arrrrgh.

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 22:49:52 +0100
From: John McCormick <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Noisy goings-on

Dear fellow ztt-lovers,

AONyone else in England read this Monday's 'Guardian' yet [21/6/99]? If
not try and get hold of someone's binned copy of the 'G2' section, or get
a photocopy: theres an ArtofNoise article in there [by Robin Denselow]!
I'll try to get permission to use the exact text from the article. In the
mean time here are some extracts from the interview with Trevor, Anne,
Paul and info about Lol.
Headlined: "The Noise are back in town":

"...we've snuck back to the studio without him. He'll be devastated."
[Dudley about Lol]

"There were some legalities involved in wrestling the name back to ZTT"
[Denselow]

"...the voice of John Hurt, who acts as a narrator..." [Denselow about
'TSOCD']

"...I used to imagine what a band would be like in the year 2000..."
[Morley about music]

Anyone want to know more?

John M.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:04:46 +01:0
From: "Thomas Romlov" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (ztt) Morley interview

Dunno if it's been mentioned, but a good interview is to be found at:

http://www.sdriver.com/spot/features/art_of_noise_interview.html



Thomas.

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (ztt) Morley interview

Thomas Romlov wrote:
> Dunno if it's been mentioned, but a good interview is to be found at:
>
> http://www.sdriver.com/spot/features/art_of_noise_interview.html

Hmm, I have a reaction to this interview, which is as you say, quite good.

Reading between the lines, this new Art of Noise is much more accessible,
in many different ways.. It's often frustrating for an artist to have to
explain the nuances of their art for those like me who just don't get it
on first listen, view, whatever. But the fact that they're really making
an effort can be as encouraging and as thought provoking as the work
itself.

When Paul goes to lengths to speak frankly about what they've created,
suddenly the album is much less a finished product and more of an snapshot
of creative process that was in motion for quite some time. I, personally,
am happy to see the masks half removed, if only for the run of this
promotional period, and even if it's at a price of some of the mystery
that was the image of the Art of Noise.


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