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Precedence:
ztt Digest Sunday, 10 November 1996 Volume 02 : Number 007
In this issue:
(ztt) frames DC US release info
(ztt) Lots o' new Ztt info...
(ztt) suscribe ztt-digest
(ztt) 808State La Luz blue promo 12"
(ztt) ztt (and others) related auction
Re: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY
Re: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY
(ztt) AON - Drum and Bass Collection
(ztt) Propaganda....Horn & Morley
RE: (ztt) AON - Drum and Bass Collection
(ztt) Propaganda soundtrack
Re: (ztt) Propaganda soundtrack
Re: (ztt) Propaganda soundtrack
Re: (ztt) Propaganda soundtrack
(ztt) looking for live Seal tapes
(ztt) 808 State "Remixes + Rare '97"
(ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes
(ztt) 808 State "Remixes + Rare '97"
Re: (ztt) FGTH: The Remixes & I Need Art of Noise Info
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From: mark wasiel <hbrtv015@email.csun.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:05:21 -0700
Subject: (ztt) frames DC US release info
Frames DC is scheduled for a release this Tuesday, the 29th of October
in the United States.
It is available on CD and tape with the catalog number "ELEKTRA 2-61970"
for CD and "ELEKTRA 4-61970". My promo copy which is a "Limited
Edition" and has a generic ELEKTRA back sleeve and no booklet is
numbered "ELEKTRA 2-61970-P". The "P" stands for Promo copy. Here's
the little blurb from the promo:
"Heralded for their brilliant, frenetic live performances, Ireland's
Frames DC have built a loyal UK audience in their brief career.
Legendary producer Trevor Horn caught a show and was so taken that he
signed them to his ZTT label and remixed Fitzcarraldo, their debut
album, which the band had released themselves. Fitzcarraldo captures
the band's live power in the studio with eleven passionate, moody and
melodic tunes driven by guitars and piercing streaks of violin.
'Monument' is the first single and video from Fitzcarraldo."
The track listing and times are the same as listed in Joerg's "Perfect
Invention".
I'll keep an eye out for the release of the US single.
To be quite honest though, I really don't see this band getting much
airplay or fans here in the US. The songs are okay but us Americans
really aren't known to be big fans of "piercing streaks of violin".
Also, I don't think the lyrics are catchy enough. I mean... "My
revelate..."? Maybe "Monument" but still...
mark
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From: mark wasiel <hbrtv015@email.csun.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:26:06 -0700
Subject: (ztt) Lots o' new Ztt info...
Here's the latest on ZTT in the USA:
Seal is on a benefit CD called "For Our Children, Too!". Unfortunately,
I still haven't been able to hear it, but I have aquired some knowledge
about the track he gave. He sings "Puff (The Magic Dragon)". It
doesn't list the producers on the back of the CD but the MUSE machine (a
computer for customers that has some details on tracks and production
info) listed most of the producers. Alas, Trevor Horn was not
mentioned. Gus Dudgeon was though and I think he worked with Seal
before. Therefore, I'm assuming that is who the producer is. The CD
and tape is available from KID RHINO and the catalog number is 72494 (-2
for CD, -4 for cassette).
2) Seal is on the upcoming soundtrack to the Michael Jordan/Bugs Bunny
film "Space Jam". This soundtrack comes out on the 29th of October
(this coming Tuesday). If the track is new, which I suspect it will be,
I also expect it to be produced by Trevor Horn as he seems to be into
these big budget film soundtracks lately. It's possible that this track
will be a single. I work at Virgin Megastore in Burbank and a customer
already asked whether the song was available as a single so I assume
that the track is already getting airplay. I'll keep my eyes open for
the single and hope to have more info on the track Monday or Tuesday.
3) Frames DC is being released on Elektra this Tuesday as well. I've
already posted about this.
4)Nothing big but the new Megastore in-store video tape (Vol 43, Nov
1996) has the video for Art of Noise "Paranoimia" on it. After actually
seeing it though, I was pleasantly surprised to hear the Paranoimia '89
as the mix (this is the hippity-hop-ish one, isn't it?). The video has
much footage from the live video tape (which name eludes me...but you
know the one). Surprisingly, the video also has a lot of graphics from
the Vectrex videogame system from 1982 (!) and the vector graphic
animation of blowing up the Death Star from Star Wars. Weird.
5) Lots of copies of Art of Noise drum & Bass are available at our
store. I'll try to get track info. I listened to some tracks and it
was okay. Decent. Probably better than the techno compilation from a
few years ago.
bye
mark
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From: sdelp@ulb.ac.be (Delpierre Stephane)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:33:47 +0100 (MET)
Subject: (ztt) suscribe ztt-digest
suscribe ztt-digest
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From: 808boy <808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:38:55 GMT
Subject: (ztt) 808State La Luz blue promo 12"
Is there anyone on this list after a copy of the following?
808 State blue vinyl promo-only 12" of La Luz.
I picked up a copy for Josh (on this list), as a surprise birthday present.
Unfortunately, he found out about the shop that had them, and bought one as
well, so now I'm left with a record I don't need.
It's in Mint condition, and I paid 12 UKP for it. If anyone wants to give me
that, plus postage to wherever they are, lemme know.
email 808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk
l8r!
- --
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From: mark wasiel <hbrtv015@email.csun.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:11:07 -0800
Subject: (ztt) ztt (and others) related auction
Mark's Used CD Auction
Here's the details: Listed below are the CDs I have for sale. I am
running this sale like an auction. The prices listed next to the CD is
the minimum bid I will accept. By having an auction for these discs I'm
allowing people who do not see the list right away a chance to get a CD
they want. Increases in bids can be done only in whole dollars. The
auction will continue for two weeks from the original posting date with
updates posted on rec.music.marketplace.cd and another update sent
personally to the bidders themselves. After the initial bidding is done
the status of the bids will change to GOING ONCE, TWICE and then finally
SOLD. Shipping is not included. Not responsible for typos.
Please email bids and any questions you may have to:
mwasiel@csun.edu
Thanks for looking!
Adamski (with Jimi Polo) - Never Goin' Down [import, cd5] $5
All Saints 1.9.7.5 - Silver Shadow (import, ZTT ZANG 53) $8
Art of Noise - Ambient Collection (UK, mixed by Youth) $15
Claudia Brucken - Love And A Million Other Things (UK) $10
The Flood - Right Here, Right Now (UK single, ZTT) $8
The Frames DC - Revelate single (UK, ZTT, TCH prod.) $10
The Frames DC - Monument single #1 (UK, ZTT) $8
The Frames DC - Monument single #2 (UK, ZTT, remixes) $8
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Frankie Says Use Condoms [live, import] $25
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Aftershow $30
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - The Beginning & The End $30
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Ultra Rare Trax $30
Honky - The Ego Has Landed (UK, ZTT) $12
Shane MacGowan - That Woman's Got Me Drinking (UK, ZTT ZANG56, lim. ed
#3445) $8
Shane MacGowan - The Church of the Holy Spook (UK, ZTT ZANG 57, lim. ed
#1472) $8
Shane MacGowan - The Snake (UK, ZTT, TCH prod., original issue) $13
Shane MacGowan - The Snake (US advance CD) $10
Shane MacGowan - The Snake (US promo) $9
Shane MacGowan & Maire Brennan - You're The One (UK, ZTT ZANG 68, TCH
prod.) $8
Kirsty MacColl - Electric Landlady $6
[feat. Johnny Marr]
Propaganda - P:Machinery T-Empo remix (UK single, ZTT/Seven) $15
Ryuichi Sakamoto w/ Holly Johnson - Love & Hate (UK single, ltd. Ed.
Digipak) $6
Seal - I'm Alive (Radio Remix Edit) promo single $3
Sexus - The Official End of It All (UK, ZTT single ZANG 77) $8
Shades of Rhythm - Shades of Rhythm (ZTT, 74104) $15
Shades of Rhythm - Musical Freedom (UK, post ZTT) $8
Squarepusher - Port Rhombus ep (UK, wild drum n bass guy!) $10
Various - From Manchester With Love.net (2 CDs, UK) $30
[exlusive tracks by New Order, 808 State, M People, Lamb, Guy Called
Gerald, Simply Red + more!]
Various - Stiff Records Box Set Disc 3 $8 [Madness, Via Vagabond [Nick
Plytas])
Various - Stiff Records Box Set Disc 4 $8 [Pogues, Untouchables, Kirsty
MacCall, SJ Lipson jazz prod track)
Various - Stone Free: Tribute to Jimi Hendrix (Seal, TCH prod.) $6
There is a lot more non-ztt related CDs listed on the
rec.music.marketplace.cd newsgroup. I only posted the ZTT related ones
here to save bandwidth. If you don't have access to newsgroups or
would rather have a copy of the whole list send me your email address.
The auction started yesterday the 29th so there's still a ways to go.
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From: "Till Teuber" <TEUBER@erzicip.erzwiss.uni-hamburg.de>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:12:26 +100
Subject: Re: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY
No! Holly did NOT write such offenceive phrases in his biography!
Till
> >Trevor Horn is Toad of toad hall
> >Paul Morley is a leach
>
> I admit it. I didn't understand it too. Surely Holly said it. Perhaps in his
> biography.
> What these words mean ?
>
> Ciao to all, in particular to the other Frankie Musketeers :)
>
> ==========-> GIANLUCA MUSUMECI <-==========
> Nickname : MASTER
> VENICE UNIVERSITY
>
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> http://vega.unive.it/~musumeci/master.html
> (UPDATED NEW VERSION !!!!!)
> Born in Bologna (ITALY) 20/07/1972
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From: Gianluca Musumeci <musumeci@unive.it>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:11:38 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY
Even if he didn't write them, it's well known that he HATES Horn&Morley.
>No! Holly did NOT write such offenceive phrases in his biography!
>Till
>> >Trevor Horn is Toad of toad hall
>> >Paul Morley is a leach
>> I admit it. I didn't understand it too. Surely Holly said it. Perhaps in his
>> biography.
>> What these words mean ?
==========-> GIANLUCA MUSUMECI <-==========
Nickname : MASTER
VENICE UNIVERSITY
visit my home page at
http://vega.unive.it/~musumeci/master.html
(UPDATED NEW VERSION !!!!!)
Born in Bologna (ITALY) 20/07/1972
hobbies: music, piano, sports, pretty girls
height:1m.82cm--weight:75kg--eyes:green
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From: kahlil <kahlil@hevanet.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 06:53:23 -0800
Subject: (ztt) AON - Drum and Bass Collection
I finally got this thing and boy was I disappointed. For drum&bass I
suppose it's fairly decent, not really my cup-of-tea. But I take
exception when it's labeled Art Of Noise, and it's totally obliterated
by "the UK scene's prime movers" (liner notes quote). There are a
handful of tracks that you can say that's the Art Of Noise, but even
those are so repetitious, what's the point? But tracks like Yebo, Kiss,
and Peter Gunn are completely wasted. These are not mixes, they are
lifted samples, and there is nothing innovative going on here.
The first line of the liner notes states "THIS ALBUM MARKS THE
ERADICATION OF ROCK AND ROLL FROM THE FACE OF THE PLANET". Well, they
certainly eradicated The Art Of Noise from the face of this disk.
Another presumption on the part of the producers (or perhaps it's just
me): "The Drum and Bass Collection is the third in a series of Art of
Noise re-mix albums...", going on the mention Ambient Collection
followed by FON Mixes. While on the back cover it states "The third in
the art of...series". While both of the statements unto themselves are
true, it leads one to believe that they are related truths, when in fact
"Songs From the Victorious City" (Dudley & Coleman) was the first in the
series, and the Ambient Collection is not involved (and it really isn't
that mixed anyway). I would however vote that Ambient Collection get an
honorary position in this series, would Drum and Bass Collection care to
step down and give to one more deserving? Hell, Art Of Silence (which I
like by the way) is more deserving!
DRUM and BASS - two more 4-letter words I'd rather not be hearing for a
while.
KGB
Visit me at the historical archives of the James Taylor Quartet
http://www.hevanet.com/kahlil/jtqmain.html
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From: "Raymond A. Koh" <r.a.koh@stud.rgl.ruu.nl>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:37:21 -0600 (CST)
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda....Horn & Morley
So did we conclude that Propaganda are in fact reforming? The mail from
"Claudia" looked highly suspect (if you were her, would you sign off a mail
saying Claudia - singer??). However, the mail from "Michael Mertens" seems
authentic. WHat's happening?
Onto the toad of toad hall comment, if we have established that it did not
come from Holly's autobiog, perhaps the person who initially sent it could
enlighten us as to the source??????
Raymond A. Koh
Admiraal van Gentstraat 43 bis
3572XG Utrecht
Netherlands
Tel: 00 31 30 2713138
E-mail: R.A.Koh@stud.rgl.ruu.nl
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From: "Raymond A. Koh" <r.a.koh@stud.rgl.ruu.nl>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:42:47 -0600 (CST)
Subject: RE: (ztt) AON - Drum and Bass Collection
It seems today to call something a remix, all you have to do is lift one or
two samples and repeat them throughout a completely new song. I'm surpirsed
they didn't call Firestarter a remix of "Close to the edit" - a bit extreme,
but you know what I mean.
In message Sun, 03 Nov 1996 06:53:23 -0800,
kahlil <kahlil@hevanet.com> writes:
> I finally got this thing and boy was I disappointed. For drum&bass I
> suppose it's fairly decent, not really my cup-of-tea. But I take
> exception when it's labeled Art Of Noise, and it's totally obliterated
> by "the UK scene's prime movers" (liner notes quote). There are a
> handful of tracks that you can say that's the Art Of Noise, but even
> those are so repetitious, what's the point? But tracks like Yebo, Kiss,
> and Peter Gunn are completely wasted. These are not mixes, they are
> lifted samples, and there is nothing innovative going on here.
>
> The first line of the liner notes states "THIS ALBUM MARKS THE
> ERADICATION OF ROCK AND ROLL FROM THE FACE OF THE PLANET". Well, they
> certainly eradicated The Art Of Noise from the face of this disk.
>
> Another presumption on the part of the producers (or perhaps it's just
> me): "The Drum and Bass Collection is the third in a series of Art of
> Noise re-mix albums...", going on the mention Ambient Collection
> followed by FON Mixes. While on the back cover it states "The third in
> the art of...series". While both of the statements unto themselves are
> true, it leads one to believe that they are related truths, when in fact
> "Songs From the Victorious City" (Dudley & Coleman) was the first in the
> series, and the Ambient Collection is not involved (and it really isn't
> that mixed anyway). I would however vote that Ambient Collection get an
> honorary position in this series, would Drum and Bass Collection care to
> step down and give to one more deserving? Hell, Art Of Silence (which I
> like by the way) is more deserving!
>
> DRUM and BASS - two more 4-letter words I'd rather not be hearing for a
> while.
>
> KGB
> Visit me at the historical archives of the James Taylor Quartet
> http://www.hevanet.com/kahlil/jtqmain.html
>
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Raymond A. Koh
Admiraal van Gentstraat 43 bis
3572XG Utrecht
Netherlands
Tel: 00 31 30 2713138
E-mail: R.A.Koh@stud.rgl.ruu.nl
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From: goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be (Emmanuel Goedseels)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:56:49 +0100
Subject: (ztt) Propaganda soundtrack
Hello,
I don't know why but I suddenly remember that Propaganda's "Mabuse"
appeared in a movie 7 or 8 years ago.
I've just found the title today : "Some Kind Of Wonderful" (a teenage comedy).
I do remember that the actress was playing drums on a instrumental version
of "Mabuse".
I know that a soundtrack CD was released at that time (and seems to be
still available in US).
I kindly ask US fans if they are aware about this soundtrack and if they
can confirm if this version of "Mabuse" appeared on this soundtrack CD.
Thank you
Emmanuel
goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be
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From: ara@fat.coara.or.jp (Takashi ARAKANE)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:55:42 +0900
Subject: Re: (ztt) Propaganda soundtrack
Hello! Emmanuel.
At 12:56 AM 11/6/1996 +0100, Emmanuel Goedseels wrote:
>I've just found the title today : "Some Kind Of Wonderful" (a teenage comedy).
>
>I do remember that the actress was playing drums on a instrumental version
>of "Mabuse".
The actress was Mary S. Masterson. She's so cute...
>I kindly ask US fans if they are aware about this soundtrack and if they
>can confirm if this version of "Mabuse" appeared on this soundtrack CD.
I don't know the version of "Mabuse" is on the soundtrack.
But 1st track of 'WISHFUL THINKING' (ZICD Q20) is the song you desired.
Takashi ARAKANE
ara@fat.coara.or.jp
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From: mark wasiel <hbrtv015@email.csun.edu>
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 22:11:57 -0800
Subject: Re: (ztt) Propaganda soundtrack
Emmanuel Goedseels wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I don't know why but I suddenly remember that Propaganda's "Mabuse"
> appeared in a movie 7 or 8 years ago.
>
> I've just found the title today : "Some Kind Of Wonderful" (a teenage comedy).
>
> I do remember that the actress was playing drums on a instrumental version
> of "Mabuse".
>
> I know that a soundtrack CD was released at that time (and seems to be
> still available in US).
>
> I kindly ask US fans if they are aware about this soundtrack and if they
> can confirm if this version of "Mabuse" appeared on this soundtrack CD.
Nope. No Propaganda was on the US soundtrack.
mark
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From: "Joerg Fitzner" <fitzner@athene.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:34:29 +0000
Subject: Re: (ztt) Propaganda soundtrack
On Nov 6, 12:56am, Emmanuel Goedseels wrote:
>
> I don't know why but I suddenly remember that Propaganda's "Mabuse"
> appeared in a movie 7 or 8 years ago.
>
> I've just found the title today : "Some Kind Of Wonderful" (a teenage
comedy).
>
> I do remember that the actress was playing drums on a instrumental version
> of "Mabuse".
>
> I know that a soundtrack CD was released at that time (and seems to be
> still available in US).
>
> I kindly ask US fans if they are aware about this soundtrack and if they
> can confirm if this version of "Mabuse" appeared on this soundtrack CD.
I remeber it was this "Abuse" version from Whisful Thinking, she was 'playing'
at the very beginning of the film.
Also, I just checked The Internet Movie Database (http://imdb.com/): The film
is from 1987 and they actually do list "Abuse" on the soundtrack - but I don't
know whether thay mean the CD or the actual tunes in the movie.
Greetings
Joerg
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From: SteveM@pluto.njcc.com
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:36:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (ztt) looking for live Seal tapes
Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for high quality live Seal tapes. Your list gets mine. Thanks!!!
Steve
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From: kahlil <kahlil@hevanet.com>
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 08:19:24 -0800
Subject: (ztt) 808 State "Remixes + Rare '97"
Just saw this posted on the Esprit mailorder:
808 STATE Remixes + Rare '97 (Japan only tour edition CD due end of
Dec, remixes by Brian Eno and Metal Headz including 3 new tracks)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/esprit/
A bit spendy at $34.00 (before postage).
KGB.
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From: "Ralph Sanchez, Jr." <rsanchez@ix2.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:15:40 +0000
Subject: (ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes
Anyone ever get a track list for this? Anyone know how I could get a
copy in the US?
Thanks,
- -rs
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From: markus@euronet.nl (Markus Arnold)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:56:00 +0100 (MET)
Subject: (ztt) 808 State "Remixes + Rare '97"
KGB wrote:
>Just saw this posted on the Esprit mailorder:
> 808 STATE Remixes + Rare '97 (Japan only tour edition CD due end of
> Dec, remixes by Brian Eno and Metal Headz including 3 new tracks)
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/esprit/
>A bit spendy at $34.00 (before postage).
>KGB.
The working title for this album was 'Thermo Kings', but I'm not sure if
this will be the final name.
Regards, "King of Comedy" Markus
Markus (markus@euronet.nl)
"808 State remain kings of everything". Melody Maker 1991
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From: "sfwd" <brap@sonic.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 08:57:16 +0000
Subject: Re: (ztt) FGTH: The Remixes & I Need Art of Noise Info
> From: "Ralph Sanchez, Jr." <rsanchez@ix2.ix.netcom.com>
> To: ztt@xmission.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:15:40 +0000
> Subject: (ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes
> Reply-to: rsanchez@ix.netcom.com
> Priority: normal
> Anyone ever get a track list for this? Anyone know how I could get a
> copy in the US?
>
> Thanks,
> -rs
>
What do you know, I though I would be an eternal lurker!
I don't have a track listing for this, but did see it at Blockbuster
Music in the import section... they actually had a very large
collection of FGTH imports... all a bit pricy tho, at least for me
who has only heard one song...
I have a question about Art of Noise... I recently picked up The
Ambient Collection and was wondering if this reflected the bulk of
their material? I was told that they sounded like a cross between
Throbbing Gristle and S. and the Banshees (why I originally bought
it), but was much happier with what I actually had bought =)
Also, is there a web site to speak of that might fill me in on this
band?
thanks
brap@sonic.net
__________________________________________
sfwd@sonic.net
sfwd music resources page(s)
industrial - gothic - techno
- -the engine-
- -the industrial - techno - gothic search engine
- -http://www.sonic.net/~brap/
- -Sanctuary - San Fran Thursday Night Industrial/Gothic Dance
- -http://www.sonic.net/~brap/sanctuary/
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