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ztt Digest                Friday, 25 October 1996      Volume 02 : Number 006

In this issue:

    (ztt) Holly's projects, and what FGTH would be now ?
    (ztt) FAB Web site !
    (ztt) Seal
    Re: (ztt) Seal
    (ztt) Frames DC release in US
    (ztt) "Puff The Magic Dragon"
    Re: (ztt) Holly's projects, and what FGTH would be now ?
    (ztt) new wendy & lisa (kind of)
    (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?
    Re: (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?
    (ztt) Help... Propaganda's website...
    RE: (ztt) Help... Propaganda's website...
    RE: (ztt) Help... Propaganda's website...
    Re: (ztt) Holly's projects, and what FGTH would be now ?
    Re: (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?
    Re: (ztt) new wendy & lisa (kind of)
    (ztt) HORN/MORLEY
    RE: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY
    Re: (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?
    Re: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY
    Re: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY

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From: Gianluca Musumeci <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:07:15 +0100 (MET)
Subject: (ztt) Holly's projects, and what FGTH would be now ?

Hi to all, in particular to Till and Stephan..

I read that Till was talking about two mysterious tracks recorded by Holly..
Well, if I were you I wouldn't be so sure about Holly's next album...

Look down :

>Date: 10 Sep 96 08:03:21 EDT
>From: Holly Johnson
>To: Gianluca Musumeci <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: R u ok ?==yes!
>I am O.K. And slowly like a snail make a new album. I wish it would happen
>sooner but.......
>
>Thanks for asking...
>
>Love Holly
>

And look at here :

>Date: 16 Sep 96 07:14:39 EDT
>From: Holly Johnson
>To: Gianluca Musumeci <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: ciao
>
>I don't know about another holiday in Venezia, I have been many times. Staying
>in Cannaregio, and on the Lido.
>
>When I start to work on a www site maybe I will let you know.
>
>The new album may be a long way off-it is going slowly at the moment.
>
>Send my love to all at C'a Doro jewellery shop.
>
>love
>Holly
>

So, SURELY Holly will release a new album, but WHEN ? I presume not in 1996
nor 1997.
    ^^^^^^

In my opinion perhaps in 1998.
              =======


I think that if Frankie Goes To Hollywood hadn't broken up, now they would
be a sort of mythical group. Liverpool was a big improovment for the skill
of the musicians.


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******
* A QUESTION : In your opinion what FGTH would be now if they hadn't broken
up ? *
****************************************************************************
******

Ciao to all

Gianluca

==========-> GIANLUCA MUSUMECI <-==========
             Nickname : MASTER
             VENICE UNIVERSITY

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     Born in Bologna (ITALY) 20/07/1972
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From: [e-mail] (Delpierre Stephane)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:21:14 +0200 (DST)
Subject: (ztt) FAB Web site !

I just want to take your attention to the Web site of Gianluca,
he is FAB !!!!!!!

With all my consideration.

loooook at  http://vega.unive.it/~musumeci/master.html

the lost one,

@@stefan@@

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From: "Jamie Easo" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:39:46 AST4ADT
Subject: (ztt) Seal

Hi everyone! My name is Jamie Easo and I'm new to this mailing list.
My primary interest in the list is news and info about Seal and the
new album supposedly coming out at Christmas.

Thanks,
Jamie

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From: mark wasiel <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:49:56 -0700
Subject: Re: (ztt) Seal

Jamie Easo wrote:
>
> Hi everyone! My name is Jamie Easo and I'm new to this mailing list.
> My primary interest in the list is news and info about Seal and the
> new album supposedly coming out at Christmas.

Since Jamie brought up Seal I thought I'd mention that Seal is on a new
compilation with a new track.  The compilation is called "For Our
Children Too".  It is the second in a series of recordings by popular
artists for the Pediatric Aids foundation.  Seal is on it doing...brace
yourselves... "Puff The Magic Dragon".  I haven't heard it yet nor seen
any details on the production but it does sound interesting.  For some
reason I imagine that it's only Seal and an acoustic guitar but maybe
that's just me.  Has anyone heard this yet?

As for a new album coming out this year, I haven't heard anything but
would welcome any news about it.  Anyone?

mark

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From: mark wasiel <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:52:07 -0700
Subject: (ztt) Frames DC release in US

Frames DC is scheduled for release on Electra records this Tuesday.  I
have a promo of it but I can't find it at the moment.  There is an
intersting little blurb about Trevor Horn on it that I'll post once I
can find it.

BTW, anyone heard anything about any other new ZTT release this year?
The last one I saw/heard was Klymaxx which came out a month or two ago.

mark

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From: kahlil <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 06:58:34 -0700
Subject: (ztt) "Puff The Magic Dragon"

I listened to this on a Tower station so it may have been the
environment, but I found it a little boring.  The rest of the album was
pretty much the same.  I guess I expected a little interpretation, but
these are straight performances.  Too bad.  I know I won't buy this one
new.

ICE also lists 2 other compilations with Seal:

  JUST SAY NOEL (10/29): something with Wendy & Lisa (no title given).

  SPACE JAM (soundtrack): Fly Like An Eagle (the Steve Miller Band
classic!).

KGB.
http://www.hevanet.com/kahlil/jtqmain.html

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From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:03:31 +100
Subject: Re: (ztt) Holly's projects, and what FGTH would be now ?

Hello List!

I agree, a record-release would be in distant future.
Not only because Holly isn't working very fast, but also it will be
difcult for him to find a record-company. For "Legendary children"
it took him ages until he finaly made a deal with club tools.

"What would FGTH be today?"

Well, they would definatley be in one line with Groops such as:
U2, Cure, Duran Duran , Depeche Mode etc.

The 10th aniversery in 93/94 with RELAX in the charts showed that,
even after all those years, FGTH is still famous.
And I'm sure, if they'd reform and release a record today, they would
be back in the top ten (regardless to the quality).
However, in '93 all bandmembers got interviewed and they agreed, that
reforming the band would be impossible due to disagreements (mostly
Holly against the rest of the band). Everone seamed to be a
bit sentimantel though about the fact, that they dropped such a big
opportunity.
Holly said, he and Wolfgang tried to reform the band for a charity
festival for children in rumania without any success.
Paul used a quote from `Blade Runner':"The star, which shines twice
as bright, lifes half as long!"

Bye,

Till





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From: mark wasiel <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:48:58 -0700
Subject: (ztt) new wendy & lisa (kind of)

Wendy & Lisa have produced an album by an artist named Doyle Bramhall.
I believe he was the singer with another group but I can't remember the
name.  From the little of it I heard, it was kind of Lenny
Kravitz-mixed-with-Seal-ish.  In the US, it's on Geffen records (further
evidence of the cozy Geffen/Trevor Horn relationship over the years) and
is available on CD and tape with the catalog number of #25001.

mark

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From: mark wasiel <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:50:59 -0700
Subject: (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?

I don't think I posted this before but if I have please forgive.

I read in an old NME (11/25/95) that Hoodlum Priest had a new single out
called "Naked Time" (Stylus Records #22).  It was described as
"Experimental junglist types, formerly on ZTT".

maybe there is an album out by now?

mark

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From: "Henrik Lundstroem" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:03:28 GMT +0100
Subject: Re: (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?

> I don't think I posted this before but if I have please forgive.
>
> I read in an old NME (11/25/95) that Hoodlum Priest had a new single out
> called "Naked Time" (Stylus Records #22).  It was described as
> "Experimental junglist types, formerly on ZTT".
>
> maybe there is an album out by now?

No idea, but I think they have a homepage at www.obsolete.com (where
you also can find AoN!).

H.


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From: "Henrik Lundstroem" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 17:56:44 GMT +0100
Subject: (ztt) Help... Propaganda's website...

I found out that something has happened at www.propaganda.de. The
problem is that I can't see what they've done. The computer I use for
websurfing (websmurfing?) is not able to use the plug-ins required
for their homepage (I use a Silicon Graphics Indy). I also use a PC
(used for this mail), but it's way to slow for Netscape. Could
someone please tell me (and maybe the rest of the list) what the Prop
qt-movie is about?

Henrik.

Henrik Lundstroem ([e-mail])

Philosophy student at University of Gothenburg, Sweden.
Chemistry student at Chalmers University of Technology.

Stalivari shout "HEUREKA!!" as the signal for invention par excellence

Coming soon: http://www.chestud.chalmers/~k94068/

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From: "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:43:27 -0700
Subject: RE: (ztt) Help... Propaganda's website...

The QuickTime movie displays a spinning, 432k version of the 3D
"Propaganda" text shown on main www.propaganda.de page. It takes
*forever* to load, though, and I'm running off a direct T1 connection
here at work. Other than this and the little sizzler animation, I
didn't see much content at all.

If you can't use the plug-ins because there are none available for your
SGI platform, you should check up on
http://browserwatch.iworld.com/plug-in.html. They have a UNIX section
which might have a plug-in for QuickTime movies.

Eagerly awaiting any new Propaganda/Brucken material,

- - ian
[e-mail]
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> "I don't know what to make of him," Nancy thought in bewilderment.
"He looked like a nice boy--and yet these days one can't be sure of
anything."

Nancy Drew agonises over dating in 1932 America,
 from The Clue in the Diary, original edition, p18.
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> From:     Henrik Lundstroem[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:     Thursday, October 24, 1996 10:56 AM
> To:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     (ztt) Help... Propaganda's website...
>
> I found out that something has happened at www.propaganda.de. The
> problem is that I can't see what they've done. The computer I use for
> websurfing (websmurfing?) is not able to use the plug-ins required
> for their homepage (I use a Silicon Graphics Indy). I also use a PC
> (used for this mail), but it's way to slow for Netscape. Could
> someone please tell me (and maybe the rest of the list) what the Prop
> qt-movie is about?
>
> Henrik.
>
> Henrik Lundstroem ([e-mail])
>
> Philosophy student at University of Gothenburg, Sweden.
> Chemistry student at Chalmers University of Technology.
>
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>
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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:52:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: RE: (ztt) Help... Propaganda's website...

> The QuickTime movie displays a spinning, 432k version of the 3D
> "Propaganda" text shown on main www.propaganda.de page. It takes
> *forever* to load, though, and I'm running off a direct T1 connection
> here at work. Other than this and the little sizzler animation, I
> didn't see much content at all.

I'm with Ian here -- there's no reason to go to the trouble of downloading the
plugins and then downloading all the files on the Propaganda page unless you
want to see their logo spin around.  There is no music, no sound, no images of
the band -- just that logo spinning around.

- --
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Joerg Fitzner" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 19:32:36 +0000
Subject: Re: (ztt) Holly's projects, and what FGTH would be now ?

On Oct 16, 10:07pm, Gianluca Musumeci wrote:
> Subject: (ztt) Holly's projects, and what FGTH would be now ?
> *********************************************************************
> * In your opinion what FGTH would be now if they hadn't broken up ? *
> *********************************************************************

You may find this very strange, but music-wise I could imagine that they
would have developed into a kind of Sisters Of Mercy like sound - if they had
continiously gone on from Liverpool.

- -Joerg

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From: "Joerg Fitzner" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 19:38:56 +0000
Subject: Re: (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?

On Oct 23,  5:50pm, mark wasiel wrote:
> Subject: (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?
> I don't think I posted this before but if I have please forgive.
>
> I read in an old NME (11/25/95) that Hoodlum Priest had a new single out
> called "Naked Time" (Stylus Records #22).  It was described as
> "Experimental junglist types, formerly on ZTT".
>
> maybe there is an album out by now?

Yeah, I think I posted about this single back a few month.  I liked it!
(Perhaps it's gone under in the listserver-problem-phase?)
I can resend it if anyone likes.

Don't know about an album though.  A friend of mine has another CD Single,
which we can't tell if it's before of after Naked Time.
I once wrote an email to them at their (literally) 'obsolete' website, but it
never got answered :-(

Bye
Joerg

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From: Chris Sweet <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:16:25 -0500
Subject: Re: (ztt) new wendy & lisa (kind of)

mark wasiel wrote:
>
> Wendy & Lisa have produced an album by an artist named Doyle Bramhall.
> I believe he was the singer with another group but I can't remember the
> name.  From the little of it I heard, it was kind of Lenny
> Kravitz-mixed-with-Seal-ish.  In the US, it's on Geffen records (further
> evidence of the cozy Geffen/Trevor Horn relationship over the years) and
> is available on CD and tape with the catalog number of #25001.
>
> mark
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They are also supposed to be touring with Bramhill. And they are going
to be on a track on Prince's new 3cd set.

chris


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From: [e-mail] (Delpierre Stephane)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:22:07 +0200 (DST)
Subject: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY

Trevor Horn is  Toad of toad hall
Paul Morley is a leach

It's not me saying that...but I think that too...

With care for all of us (in particuliar Till, Joerg, Gianluca)

@@stefan@@ and the Rutherpuff Imposture


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From: "Raymond A.N.D. Koh" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:05:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: RE: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY

So does the message mean that TCH is fascinated by new toys and is foolish
with his unlimited amount of money to spend, whilst Morley hangs around for
the ride?

In message Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:22:07 +0200 (DST),
  [e-mail] (Delpierre Stephane)  writes:

> Trevor Horn is  Toad of toad hall
> Paul Morley is a leach
>
> It's not me saying that...but I think that too...
>
> With care for all of us (in particuliar Till, Joerg, Gianluca)
>
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From: "Joerg Fitzner" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:57:16 +0000
Subject: Re: (ztt) hoodlum priest new release?

Hi, here's the old mail concerning the Hoodlum Priest release...

- ----------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 15:26:46 +0000
Subject: New Hoodlum Priest

Hello,

are there still any Hoodlum Priest desciples out there?

If so here's info on a new CD-single I just got last week:

* Hoodlum Priest: Naked Time / No Fear
   CD5: 1995 UK (Stylus22/RTM: STYCD002)
          6:13  Naked Time
          4:33  No Fear
          4:09  No Fear (Noko Apollo 440 Mix)
          9:58  Naked Time (Uberchill - Technietzsche Mix)

And in my opinion it's great - especially No Fear.
Again it's way over the top... going beyond my abilities of description!
All I can say regarding to styles (and I hate doing that), is that Noko's
mix is a bit different from the rest incorporation pure break-beats. (But
it's not less great, of course!)
This time the songs are featuring actually _sung_ vocals, but they're
really fitting to the music.

- -Joerg

- ----------------------------------------------------------------

P.S.:  Mark: Check out Mk III, track #7 and #8... :-)

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From: "Joerg Fitzner" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 18:28:57 +0000
Subject: Re: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY

On Oct 25,  3:22pm, Delpierre Stephane wrote:
> Subject: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY
> Trevor Horn is  Toad of toad hall
> Paul Morley is a leach
>
> It's not me saying that...but I think that too...

Who said it then - Holly?  (Apart from that you also did, somehow.)

And moreover, what does it mean???


Doubting on my English
Joerg

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From: Gianluca Musumeci <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 21:18:20 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: (ztt) HORN/MORLEY

>Trevor Horn is  Toad of toad hall
>Paul Morley is a leach

I admit it. I didn't understand it too. Surely Holly said it. Perhaps in his
biography.
What these words mean ?

Ciao to all, in particular to the other Frankie Musketeers :)

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