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Subject: ztt Digest V2 #5
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ztt Digest Wednesday, 4 September 1996 Volume 02 : Number 005
In this issue:
AoN Beat Box 12"
Re: AoN Beat Box 12"
Japan "808" Don Solaris
808 state in Future Music
Re: 808 state in Future Music
Re: 808 state in Future Music
AoN Beat Box 12"
Re: AoN Beat Box 12"
New (old) Claudia Bruecken release
Re: AoN Beat Box 12"
Re: New (old) Claudia Bruecken release
Assorted ZTT vinyl for sale
Re: Holly and Seal on TV
yes bootlegs
Assorted ZTT vinyl for sale
Brucken...Propaganda
Ztt search
>>>>> VIRUS ALERT - VERY IMPORTANT <<<<<
Good Times is a hoax (Re: >>>>> VIRUS ALERT - VERY IMPORTANT <<<<<)
The virus hoax (Who's Afraid?)
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From: TheMgnt@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 03:59:55 -0400
Subject: AoN Beat Box 12"
So, I've recently purchased the Beat Box 12" (ztis 108 - Diversions one and
two) and was rather annoyed to find Diversion Two played Close to the Edit.
I've checked the discog and found no mention of mis-pressings or that
diversion two was in fact close to the edit.
Can anyone clarify?
Somewhat annoyed,
- -paul
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From: Mike Brown <mike@hyperreal.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:34:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: AoN Beat Box 12"
> So, I've recently purchased the Beat Box 12" (ztis 108 - Diversions one and
> two) and was rather annoyed to find Diversion Two played Close to the Edit.
"Close (to the Edit)" is an edited version of "Beat Box (Diversion Two)".
The only difference is that Beat Box (Diversion Two) has some extra
repetition in the break.
It's all part of that early ZTT ethos of remixing and re-releasing the
same material in as many formats and versions as possible.
Mike
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From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 18:30:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Japan "808" Don Solaris
Howdy ZTT people! I just wanted everyone to know about the Japan release
of the new 808 album. I just got it today and I'm a little upset with it.
Its really the same as the UK release. It has too bonus tracks of Bonded
and Chistler, but it doesn't have PUMP. :( I was really looking foward to
PUMP, and there was a rumor that it would be on the JP cd, but it isn't.
It has a lyric incert but as usual, some are incorrect. It has the same
cover as the UK release. The JP doesn't have the hard plastic cover with
the 808 logo on it, it just comes in a clear plastic thin sleeve with a
sticky backing. The only thing I could see a little different, is that the
JP cd has a gold tint to the cd and the UK is more silver. If your a big
808 collector, pick it up, but its not really worth paying the insane price
for something that isn't much different.
Cheers, Josh
Keep relatin' to the State of 808
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From: mark wasiel <hbrtv015@email.csun.edu>
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:46:57 -0700
Subject: 808 state in Future Music
808 state are featured in the current issue of the UK music mag, Future
Music. There is a two page interview plus an exlusive track on the CD
that comes with the magazine.
Here's the details:
808 state on Future Music CD #47 Septemeber 1996, UK
Paradam 5'01" - Previously unreleased track (C) 1996 ZTT Records
The track is pretty "out" even for 808 state. Interesting, but I don't
think I'll find myself listening to it very much.
mark
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From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:15:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 808 state in Future Music
Sounds really cool. Do you want to sell it? Please let me know!
Cheers, Josh
>808 state are featured in the current issue of the UK music mag, Future
>Music. There is a two page interview plus an exlusive track on the CD
>that comes with the magazine.
>
>Here's the details:
>
>808 state on Future Music CD #47 Septemeber 1996, UK
>Paradam 5'01" - Previously unreleased track (C) 1996 ZTT Records
>
>
>The track is pretty "out" even for 808 state. Interesting, but I don't
>think I'll find myself listening to it very much.
>
>mark
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From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:16:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 808 state in Future Music
if you don't want to sell it, could you get me a copy?
Cheers, Josh
>808 state are featured in the current issue of the UK music mag, Future
>Music. There is a two page interview plus an exlusive track on the CD
>that comes with the magazine.
>
>Here's the details:
>
>808 state on Future Music CD #47 Septemeber 1996, UK
>Paradam 5'01" - Previously unreleased track (C) 1996 ZTT Records
>
>
>The track is pretty "out" even for 808 state. Interesting, but I don't
>think I'll find myself listening to it very much.
>
>mark
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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <lazlo@swcp.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 16:16:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: AoN Beat Box 12"
> So, I've recently purchased the Beat Box 12" (ztis 108 - Diversions one and
> two) and was rather annoyed to find Diversion Two played Close to the Edit.
>
> I've checked the discog and found no mention of mis-pressings or that
> diversion two was in fact close to the edit.
My fault, sorry. I'll try to clarify it in future updates. As Mike
points out, "Close (to the edit)" *is* a diversion of Beat Box.
- --
::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)
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From: BearCub4@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 01:19:40 -0400
Subject: Re: AoN Beat Box 12"
while we're talking about beat box, can someone list the total different
versions?
I know of the diversion one, two, ten (7" mix I think, on the turtle-shaped
"moments in love" single)
and saw a diversion eight on the cassette single
and of course there's the version on INTO BATTLE which has yet to be on CD.
I also heard about a remix/edit done by Justin Strauss or Shep Pettibone from
3-4 years ago.
anyone else know about an 808 state mix of "moments in love" that never saw
the light of day? (apparently completed, but not released?) I have the
ZANCE ztt compilation with that alternate mix on it, and one by dj remix
service MIXXX RITE, but am curious (aside from the DAFT and moments CD
single) what other mixes existed, and if the US 12" (promo only?) had any
different versions.
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From: Andreas Wiethoff <ae64@iamm06.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:01:55 +0200 (CES)
Subject: New (old) Claudia Bruecken release
On the Mute WWW server, I found
(http://www.mutelibtech.com/mute/artists.htm#Interpop)
Interpop
The Brain
New single on Interpop "I'll Find A Way" is released on August 26th.
The single features guest vocals by ex-Propaganda star Claudia
Brucken and includes remixes by Phil Kelsey and Jam el Mar.
The Brain with Claudia Brucken make a special PA appearance at
Heaven, London on August 24th.
- --
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E-mail: ae64@iamm06.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de
WWW : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Andreas.Wiethoff
Synthpop auction: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ae64/synth.txt
ON VACATION FROM AUG 31 TO SEP 8! I WILL NOT READ MY E-MAIL DURING THIS TIME!
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From: "Joerg Fitzner" <fitzner@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:50:26 -0600
Subject: Re: AoN Beat Box 12"
On Aug 23, 7:34am, Mike Brown wrote:
> Subject: Re: AoN Beat Box 12"
> > So, I've recently purchased the Beat Box 12" (ztis 108 - Diversions one and
> > two) and was rather annoyed to find Diversion Two played Close to the Edit.
>
> "Close (to the Edit)" is an edited version of "Beat Box (Diversion Two)".
> The only difference is that Beat Box (Diversion Two) has some extra
> repetition in the break.
So, we just have to take the title more literally, I guess - considering
Diversion Two being an 'Edit' of Beat Box! :-)
Isn't that what we all loved about ZTT?
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From: "Joerg Fitzner" <fitzner@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:54:02 -0600
Subject: Re: New (old) Claudia Bruecken release
On Aug 27, 5:01pm, Andreas Wiethoff wrote:
> Subject: New (old) Claudia Bruecken release
> [...]
> The Brain with Claudia Brucken make a special PA appearance at
> Heaven, London on August 24th.
Great! Has anyone seen the gig?
- -Joerg
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From: "24 HR. SERVICE STATION" <hour24@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:59:24 -0400
Subject: Assorted ZTT vinyl for sale
Here's some of my collection I am selling. All items are $5.00 each.
All are Near Mint, unless noted.
808 State - lift : US promo 12" TB 989
Art of Noise - Who's Afraid : LP w/ promo gold stamp US Isl 90179
TH, PM w/ the AON - Moments... : US 12" 96839
FGTH - Two Tribes (annihilation) : US 12" 96931
FGTH - Relax in die-cut Island sleve : US 12" 96975
FGTH - Relax p/s : US 12" 96975 "Giant 45"
sleeve is NM but has two metal discs of unknown origin adhered to it! (?)
Seal - Killer p/s : US promo 12" w/ gold stamp 40230
Shipping from US: $3.00 inside/ $5.00 out. All prices in US dollars.
A trade for the Hoodlum Priests LP or CD would be great!
Thanks!
Marshall Dickson
hour24@ix.netcom.com
audio,
Marshall Dickson
http://24hr.com
hour24@ix.netcom.com
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From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <TEUBER@erzicip.erzwiss.uni-hamburg.de>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:20:44 +100
Subject: Re: Holly and Seal on TV
Hallo Joerg!
Zur Zeit lebe ich nur noch auf der UEberholspur. Ich bin zum erstenmal
seit Semesterferien sind zu Hause, deshalb brauchst Du Dir auch
ueberhaupt keine sorgen wegen der Videoclips zu machen. Lass Dir ruhig
Zeit.
Beim checken meiner e-mail bin ich auch auf die Botschaft von Torben
gesossen. Handelt es sich bei der Sendung auf VIVA2 um eine
Wiederholung des "Holly - JAM" Videos, was ich schon von Dir habe??
Ich hoffe Du hast schoene Semesterferien und machst auch etwas Urlaub.
Ich bin gerade von einer biologischen Exkursion in der Schweiz
zurueckgekommen.
Bis bald.
Till
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From: mark wasiel <hbrtv015@email.csun.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:11:38 -0700
Subject: yes bootlegs
http://www.bekkoame.or.jp/~not/yes/
Hi Joerg. This site has a lot of yes bootlegs. A couple might be of
interest to you (and me!) regarding Trevor Horn.
Yes: The Age of Buggles
Microphone MPH 012
New York, Madison Square Garden, 1980.9.6.
(1) Into The Lens.
(2) And You And I.
(3) Go To This.
(4) Keyboards Solo.(including Video Killed The Radio Star - Man In
The Car)
(5) We Can Fly From Here.
(6) Tempus Fugit.
(7) Machine Messiah.
(8) Stership Trooper.
(9) Roundabout.
Comment:
All tracks were recorded live at Madison Square Garden 1980.9.6,
performed by Downes, Horn, Howe, Squire and White.
Track 3 and 5 were unreleased songs as YES.
Track 4 was performed by Downes, keyboards solo including Buggles'
"Video Killed The Radio Star" and YES' "White Car".
YES: The Alternate Generator
Dancin'Disc DD1002
Unreleased studio outtakes from "Big Generator" session.
(1) Love Will Find A Way.
(2) Big Generator.
(3) Rythm Of Love.
(4) Final Eyes.
(5) I'm Running.
(6) Shoot High And Low.
(7) Shoot High And Low - 2nd take.
(8) Big Generator - 2nd take.
Unreleased JON & VANGELIS demos from 1986.
(9) Let's Pretend.
(10) All Through The Night.
(11) Say What You Will.
(12) The Arms Of Love.
(13) Distant Thunder.
Comment:
Track 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8 are demo and alternate tracks from "Big
Generator".
Track 9,10,11,12 and 13 are demo tracks from JON & VANGELIS in
1986.
Before track 9, there is a short instrumental track, but not on the
track list.
Track 9 "Let's Pretend" is the original JON & VANGELIS version.
Three years later, this song was done over again by ABWH.
Track 13 "Distant Thunder" is not included on this BOOT.
Limited edition of 300 copies from Germany, very expensive price.
Matt wrote:
> Track 9, the instrumental track, actually sounds like it's "Holy
Lamb"
> and the quality is similar to the other BG demos on the CD. The
track
> numbers do not match what is printed on the cover from that point
on.
Larry from Canada wrote:
> Track 9 is Holy lamb instrumental by Yes, not Let's pretend by
Vangelis.
*this one important due to the fact that Trevor was eventually removed
from the project. I had heard the album had been completed and then
restarted. It would be interesting to hear this disc if I could ever
find it.
That's all for now!
mark
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From: "24 HR. SERVICE STATION" <hour24@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:35:27 -0400
Subject: Assorted ZTT vinyl for sale
I don't know if this sent or not...
Here's some of my collection I am selling. All items are $5.00 each.
All are Near Mint, unless noted.
808 State - lift : US promo 12" TB 989
Art of Noise - Who's Afraid : LP w/ promo gold stamp US Isl 90179
TH, PM w/ the AON - Moments... : US 12" 96839
FGTH - Two Tribes (annihilation) : US 12" 96931
FGTH - Relax in die-cut Island sleve : US 12" 96975
FGTH - Relax p/s : US 12" 96975 "Giant 45"
sleeve is NM but has two metal discs of unknown origin adhered to it! (?)
Seal - Killer p/s : US promo 12" w/ gold stamp 40230
Shipping from US: $3.00 inside/ $5.00 out. All prices in US dollars.
A trade for the Hoodlum Priests LP or CD would be great!
Thanks!
Marshall Dickson
hour24@ix.netcom.com
audio,
Marshall Dickson
http://24hr.com
hour24@ix.netcom.com
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From: DAVID FELSTEAD <lr71@dial.pipex.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 96 23:35:39 GMT
Subject: Brucken...Propaganda
Hi there... i have over 3 hours of propaganda /brucken related videos and
am desperate to get hold of more or live tapes etc... can anyone help..
Best Wishes... Dave
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From: "Lucas dos Santos" <plucas@ip.pt>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:39:48 +0100
Subject: Ztt search
To all ZTT fans
Hi. I'm a ZTT fan and am very very pleased to know such a mailing list
exists !!!
I live in Lisbon,Portugal and, through the years, have collected ZTT
records
from FGTH, Propaganda and Art of Noise,
All this time I have been amazed how I still could hear sometimes
somewhere
some strange version of a music I thought I had every version of.
Surely I'm not alone in this...
More depressing has been (before the net came) not to know
where to identify a version, or find a record, or where to buy it.
Indulge me.
Tell me where I can get old ZTT musics from the above groups.
Collector/rare record shops, people wanting to sell their old stuff,
anything that helps.
Mainly for FGTH and Propaganda.
And in the air, I drop an idea (needs lotsa disk space...).
A music server (e.g. in RealAudio format) for all the fans.
I'd be glad to provide my stuff.
So, waiting to hear from you
Best regards
Pedro Lucas
PS:
There are things that one never stops searching but one never finds.
My trauma, zum bei spiel, are the P-Machinery Betamixes.
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 01:18:25 +0100
Subject: >>>>> VIRUS ALERT - VERY IMPORTANT <<<<<
>Very important information; please read.
>The FCC released a warning last Wednesday to any user of the Internet.
>There is a "computer virus" that is being sent across the Internet by E-Mail.
>If you receive an E-Mail message with the subject line
>>>>>>>>>>" Good Times "<<<<<<<<<<
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>to completely wipe out your hard drive and overdrive (overheat) your
>processor by sending it into an nth complexity binary loop.
>Remember the Virus' name "Good Times".
>Pass this along to your global mailing list as well.
Don't give in to paranoia either...
Later,
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From: "Ashley D. Collins" <acol@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:40:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Good Times is a hoax (Re: >>>>> VIRUS ALERT - VERY IMPORTANT <<<<<)
Thanks for your concern, but the "Good Times" virus is a hoax.
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996 topher@france-techno.fr wrote:
> >Very important information; please read.
> >The FCC released a warning last Wednesday to any user of the Internet.
> >There is a "computer virus" that is being sent across the Internet by E-Mail.
> >If you receive an E-Mail message with the subject line
> >>>>>>>>>>" Good Times "<<<<<<<<<<
> >>>>> DO NOT READ THE MESSAGE <<<<
> >>>>> DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY <<<<
> >It not only destroys your computer, but it goes into your list of E-Mail
> >addresses and sends itself to all others on the list, and then proceeds
> >to completely wipe out your hard drive and overdrive (overheat) your
> >processor by sending it into an nth complexity binary loop.
> >Remember the Virus' name "Good Times".
>
> >Pass this along to your global mailing list as well.
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From: Mike Brown <mike@hyperreal.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The virus hoax (Who's Afraid?)
> >It not only destroys your computer, but it goes into your list of E-Mail
> >addresses and sends itself to all others on the list, and then proceeds
> >to completely wipe out your hard drive and overdrive (overheat) your
> >processor by sending it into an nth complexity binary loop.
It shouldn't have to be said, but this "alert" is a hoax that has been
propagated by clueless people since 2 Dec 1994. See the Good Times Virus
Hoax FAQ for details: http://www.nsm.smcm.edu/News/GTHoax.html
Mike
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