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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:37:43 -0800
From: skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: more on the tom tom club
on 3/21/02 12:24 PM, Joseph Zitt at jzitt@metatronpress.com wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 02:31:05PM -0500, RainDog138@aol.com wrote:
>
>> ok - the tom tom club song is called "genuis of love" and it's clearly what
>> grand master used as a sample or whatever. no NOT the talking heads, though
>> if you do a search on "genius of love" on morpheus it comes up as a talking
>> heads song as well as the tom tom club. wierd huh? guess i am not the only
>> one who has mistaken this for a talking heads song.
>
> If you're referring to "The Message", you're still wrong. Actually
> listening to the songs you're talking about might prove useful.
>
It was "It's Nasty". Now play nice.
sh
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:48:27 EST
From: TagYrIt@aol.com
Subject: The Talking Tom club
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Well Mike, technically it is a Tom Tom Club song, but I could see it being
mistakenly considered a T-Heads song, because it is included on the T-Heads
Stop Making Sense soundtrack.
Dale.
In a message dated 3/21/2002 2:31:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
RainDog138@aol.com writes:
> ok - the tom tom club song is called "genuis of love" and it's clearly what
> grand master used as a sample or whatever. no NOT the talking heads, though
>
> if you do a search on "genius of love" on morpheus it comes up as a talking
>
> heads song as well as the tom tom club. wierd huh? guess i am not the only
> one who has mistaken this for a talking heads song.
>
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Dale.<BR>
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In a message dated 3/21/2002 2:31:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, RainDog138@aol.com writes:<BR>
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grand master used as a sample or whatever. no NOT the talking heads, though <BR>
if you do a search on "genius of love" on morpheus it comes up as a talking <BR>
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one who has mistaken this for a talking heads song.<BR>
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:38:45 -0600
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: How Come?
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:33:09AM -0800, john schuller wrote:
> Actually I am part of a group. Everyone is. But I truly think that in the
> age of "Political Correctness" that we really need to stop exploiting or
> segregating people further based upon their ethnicity/ gender.
*sigh* It's continually dismaying that people, at this late date,
continue to complain about others' "Political Correctness" to deflect
people's attention from their own prejudices, insensitivities, and
misunderstandings.
Who do you imagine is being "segregated" here? Aggregated, perhaps,
though I don't see how you could complain about that.
> (I now take
> back the religion part...it just occured to me since a life style choice -
> not something you are born as)
Again, not exactly true. The huge majority of people never change
religion from the one that they were born into.
To avoid hitting the Godwin Point of bringing up the Nazis
immediately, do you imagine that the conflicts in the Balkan, Ireland,
etc, are due to "lifestyle choices"?
(One usually sees that phrase used to denigrate gay identity. It is
disappointing to see it further misused here.)
> It really doen not matter to me if the person
> I am listening to is whatever.
So why dost thou protest so much? Does it bother you that the person
chooses to identify him/herself as a member of a group?
> But to set it aside as something seperate of
> music - "hey, here is some music made by a woman! Buy it because of that!" I
> think it is wrong. I think in this day and age you should be able to make
> music, sell music whatever based upon the music.
And, indeed, you are. The situation that you are imagining is one in
which you might be *forced* in some unsaid way to buy music based on
some aspect of a musician's identity. Can you point to any situation
whatsoever in which this is the case? Can you point to any situation
in which a musician was forced in any way to identify him/herself in
such a way?
Why does it bother you that some musicians choose to identify
themselves as members of groups? What is conceivably lost to anyone by
their making that choice?
> Otherwise it is just as sad
> as "Buy this Jennifer Lopez album! She is HOT!". A bunch of Minstrel show
> shit.
The jaw simply drops at such a characterization.
> > > And I will go ahead and go on the record about the Japanese series---It
> >is
> > > cool with me. Just because it gives a specific location of the planet.
> >
> >So why the prejudice in favor of location-based organization? Is that in
> >any sense more interesting or worthwhile than music by members of a
> >culture who happen to be geographically dispersed? If so, why?
