> >Brubeck was a very skilled bandleader -- enough to keep his personnel in
> >place for years rather than months
> >
> >and: The band played often, so developing the music could happen more
> >readily night in/night out.
> >
> >Dave is a genius.
>
>...and he's white!
There were lots of predominately white bands that didn't get over at
the time, & Brubeck frequently took a lot of grief and lost gigs for
having an integrated band, so that's nowhere near a sufficient
explanation for much of anything. It certainly didn't hurt in some
areas of marketing the band, but Miles Davis, MJQ, Duke Ellington,
Oscar Peterson and many Black jazz musicians were continually playin
goto large audiences, and making VERY good money, at the time too.
In addition to Skip's list, I'd add that Brubeck was very
aggressively marketed to college & university audiences at a time
when jazz still had more than a vestige of pop music credibility. In
this way the band built a strong base among an audience that (like
most young audiences - look at all the fans of Sinatra, Presley,
Beatles, etc. of a certain age who never got past their high
school/college idols) wasn't going to keep changing their taste very
much longer.
Bests,
Herb
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Herb Levy
Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio
<http://www.antennaradio/avant/mappings/>
mappings@antennaradio.com
Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 USA
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:14:16 +0100
From: duncan youngerman <y-man@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: "Filles de Silent Brew"
Marcin Gokieli a =E9crit :
> *** I do not rate WR high, although i must say that i have only one of the=
ir
> records - 'i sing the body electric'=2E side one is interesting, but side=
2
> does not convince me=2E I like Vitous's sound on that album=2E Miles album=
s of
> that time are IMHO much more interesting=2E
Try the 1rst ("Weather Report"), 3rd ("Sweetnighter": "Boogie-woogie waltz" =
is
a Z-funk high point), 4th ("Mysterious Traveler", with contrasts worthy of
Mahler or the Beatles)=2E=2E=2E
> DY: up to this spirit of open-ended deconstructed ambiguous funk=2E In fac=
t
> the
> electric Miles albums featuring Z=2E ("Silent", "Brew", "Corner") fare a f=
ew
> notches higher in my private pantheon than those without=2E
>
> *** It's funny to see the how zawinul's arrival changed the band - we can
> see it very clearly now thanks to the in a silent way box=2E In my opinion
> it's his sound that was decisive, not the compositions=2E
What about his "Pharaoh's Dance" which opens up "Bitches Brew"? An all-time
musical/Miles high, Imho=2E=2E=2E
> DY:
> Was interested to learn from the "In a silent way Sessions" liner notes th=
at
> Mlle Mabry" was to such an extent a Hendrix homage=2E Seems very obvious t=
o my
> ears now=2E
>
> *** I didn't read the notes that carefully, so i did not find the quote
> (btw: there were some problems with buying it in poland, and it arrived on=
ly
> a few days after the relase date=2E I terrorized many shop owners/clerks
> during that sad period ;-))=2E But it does make sense=2E
p=2E34 :(from the booklet)"=2E=2E=2Epays homage to Jimi hendrix's"The wind c=
ries Mary"=2E
Certain chord movements imply Hendrix's song, but then the composition takes=
a
totally different direction=2E"
Best,
DY=2E
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:55:17 -0800
From: Tosh <tosh@loop.com>
Subject: Johnny (Johnnie) Ray
Hi,
I have read the book and thought it was pretty interesting. I didn't
catch the jazz part in the book, maybe I was sleep-reading at the
time. But one point I think we should make clear is that Johnny is
not the spelling of Johnnie Ray's name. It's spelled Johnnie. He
consistently had his name mispelled - including on the first
Portishead album -where they mispelled his name when giving credit to
a sample.
But on another note, Ray was really an interesting music person. The
biography made me check out his music - but I was also intrigued by
Morrissey's tribute to him during his Smith years - by having his
photo taken with a hearing aid. And then there was those great
photos of him on stage during the 50's.
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Tosh Berman
TamTam Books
http://www.tamtambooks.com
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:42:27 EST
From: TagYrIt@aol.com
Subject: Re: Brubeck
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In a message dated 2/19/02 7:34:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, herb@eskimo.com
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> In addition to Skip's list, I'd add that Brubeck was very
> aggressively marketed to college & university audiences at a time
> when jazz still had more than a vestige of pop music credibility.
When I was reading about this part of Brubeck's career in his biography not
too long ago, I could think of nothing comparable so much as Phish.
Dale.
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