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Zorn List Digest       Friday, February 15 2002       Volume 03 : Number 781



In this issue:
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       Re: Braxton?
       InTolerance (and a devious way to make Zorn content)
       Music from "The Simpsons"
       Re: Music from "The Simpsons"
       shakira
       Re: Braxton
       eyvindkang recs
       Re: eyvindkang recs
       Fwd: eyvindkang recs
       Fwd: Re: eyvindkang recs
       re: Braxton?
       Speaking of Crossroads Fwd: EI March Calendar

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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:05:34 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Efr=E9n_del_Valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Braxton?

> on 2/14/02 11:21 PM, John Schuller at [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > I only have one Anthony Braxton Disc "Seven Compositions" any others I
> > should check out?

I'm not a huge Anthony Braxton fan but I do love "Ten Compositions (Quartet
2000)". It's impressive, pretty much in a traditional jazz format - don't
expect wild innovations, but very intense and 100% enjoyable.

Best,

EfrΘn del Valle
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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:55:59 +0000 (WET)
From: Ricardo Reis <[e-mail]>
Subject: InTolerance (and a devious way to make Zorn content)

    ... by D.W.G.. oh, hell, this wasn't to be here. but since Effren
almost hit the nail of my own opinions (one of the good points of the list
is the strange taste spectrum displaied by it's members) i would recomend
something for everyone to dig their ears into: portuguese guitar, solo
(can't help thinking in the great master, Carlos Paredes) and in it's
traditional role, serving to create the musical backdrop to fado singers
(check Amalia Rodrigues who not only was "The" fado singer but went to a
few different styles of portuguese traditional music).
    oh, yes, connection with Zorn? in one of his recommendations list
on Tzadik he mentions Fernando Pessoa, who whose a great portuguese poet
and who surely listened some time or other to fado...

            greets!,

         Ricardo Reis, who is heading to a propulsion exam

                "Non Serviam"


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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 05:09:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Andy Marks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Music from "The Simpsons"

Anybody else here big Simpson's fans?
The first album of music from the show,
"Songs in the Key of Springfield" is simply
brilliant, IMHO. I think it really captures
the spirit of show as well as showcasing the
great tunes, which range all over the musical
spectrum.

The second album is ok, if only for the Sonic Youth
cover of the theme song.

PS: There is a Zorn connection here. The
Esquivel hits album "Space Age Bachelor Pad
Music" liner notes feature quotes from both
Zorn and Matt Groening. Maybe we should start
a "Six degrees of Separation" thing for Zorn?
Britney to Zorn anyone?

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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:14:13 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Re: Music from "The Simpsons"

>Anybody else here big Simpson's fans?

Of course! Mr. Burns=B4 "See My Vest" is one of the all-time great fake show
tunes, up there with "Springtime for Hitler"....

Stephen Fruitman
Dept of Historical Studies
Ume=E5 University
SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden



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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:24:40 -0500
From: Jonas Leddington <[e-mail]>
Subject: shakira

>Surprises come up almost on a daily basis. I mean,
>someone making love to Derek Bailey's solo albums?!... That's =
priceless.

>Best,

>Efr=E9n del Valle
>n.p: Tortoise "MIllions NOw Living Will Never Die"

Very funny.  Thanks for the laugh, Efr=E9n.

With regards to the Shakira discussion: as much as real elitism is
self-defeating, distasteful, and ridiculous, I also find that people =
with
different and difficult tastes often pander to the popular, as if the
"liberated and thoughtful" avant-garde consists only of those who see =
the
value in and enjoy pop music.  (By "real" I mean pretense and =
intellectual
dishonesty versus that which is called "elitism" from the outside, but =
is
really only an uninformed statement about someone's honest tastes and
inclinations.)  It seems were not willing to make strong statements =
about
art or artists for fear of having someone claim we miss the point or =
are
ignorant.  It's as if those who seek continually to expand their tastes =
and
voyage into new terrains are responsible for defending popular forms =
that
promote complacency, passivity, and drool, while complacent and passive
listeners and viewers are free to deride and consume without thought.  =
The
unwillingness of those who take art (and life) seriously to make =
critical
statements is problematic.

I forget who it was, but one of the composers we discuss on this list =
was
very dismissive of pop music, deriding the songs for having only 10 =
seconds
of musical information.  (I want to say it was Zorn at the Miller, but =
I
could be entirely mistaken.  Probably it was someone more prone to such
statements, like Boulez.)  Personally, I don't believe Ms. Spears is an
artist.  She's a very hard-working, charismatic, savvy, squeaky piece =
of
ass.  Misogyny you accuse?  The male gaze?  Well, I say she earned it.  =
The
appropriation of the word artist by those whose labors are =
materialistic and
shallow is insulting to those whose involvement in the world and their =
art
is thoughtful, far-reaching, and full of love (much like Bush's =
horrifying
appropriation of "patriot" in the oh-so-patriotic Patriot Act USA).

Regards,
Jonas


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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:22:29 -0500
From: Mark Saleski <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Braxton

i really love the Willisau discs....does anybody know if they're still
available? they're missing from my most recent Cadence.

and skip is right,  Circle In Paris is fantastic. i've got a mint lp
copy of that one and i just get lost in it....

mark

NP: commercial refuse

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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 07:25:41 -0800 (PST)
From: jason tors <[e-mail]>
Subject: eyvindkang recs

hello all, just listening to the tribute to dave brubeck "in his own
sweet way" and I need to explore more eyvind kang, any recommendations?

thanks, J

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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:41:40 +1100
From: "Julian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: eyvindkang recs

> hello all, just listening to the tribute to dave brubeck "in his own
> sweet way" and I need to explore more eyvind kang, any recommendations?

Always amazing. Of his own Tzadik albums, Theatre Of Mineral NADEs is the
most tuneful and simple, 7 NADEs is more experimental, and The Story of
Iceland is somewhere in between. My pick is 7 NADEs. If you like the weirder
noisier stuff on there, hunt down Sweetness of Sickness, which is I believe
is his first album. His work on Bill Frisell's Quartet is also great, a
wonderful album on the whole as well.

Other projects he is/has been part of: Secret Chiefs 3, Dying Ground, Wayne
Horvitz's 4+1 Ensemble, etc...


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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:47:35 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Efr=E9n=20del=20Valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: eyvindkang recs

HI,

> hello all, just listening to the tribute to dave
> brubeck "in his own
> sweet way" and I need to explore more eyvind kang,
> any recommendations?
>
> thanks, J

I've heard "7 Nades" and I liked it, although it's a
bit too noisy in some moments.
I do own "Theatre of Mineral Nades" and something
paradoxical happens to me with that album. Although I
don't dig the traditional Middle Ages material that
comprises most of the music therein, I really think
it's a marvellous, immense achievement by Kang. He
really managed to create a fascinating world in the
recording studio, IMHO, and gave us a tremendously
imaginative series of soundscapes that run from
bossanova to Indian melodies, reggae, chamber music,
etc... It brings lots of diversified imaginery to my
mind, in the same way "Spillane" or "Disco Volante"
did to me. It's kind of dreamy, I'd say. I guess I
should conclude I'm quite fond of the album, but
partially. However, objectively I think I can say it's
a masterfully shaped record.
To fully enjoy his violin playing (in "Theater..." he
plays virtually everything at hand) I'd recommend
"Dying Ground" on Avant with Kato Hideki and Calvin
Weston, if my memory serves. It's a power trio with a
very strong sound.
Also, his appeareance in Secret Chiefs 3 live album
(don't remember the title) is just amazing.
I saw a video bootleg of Wayne Horwitz'Motel Room
6(approx) and I couldn't believe it. He was just a
blast, kind of a electric violin-Hendrix!

Hope it helps.

Best,

EfrΘn del Valle

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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:50:07 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Efr=E9n=20del=20Valle?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: eyvindkang recs

Hi,

Julian wrote:

His work on Bill Frisell's
> Quartet is also great, a
> wonderful album on the whole as well.

I forgot that one and I strongly second that
recommendation. The only Frisell record I've really
enjoyed (sorry, Frisell fans). A very beautiful album,
no doubt.

Best,

EfrΘn del Valle

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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:51:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Whit Schonbein <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: Braxton?

Skip mentioned Circle - Paris concert, on ECM (and back in print), which
is absolutely excellent.

Someone else mentioned 'For Alto', which is a classic in the genre of solo
sax recordings.  I haven't heard it in many years so can't really say
anything positive or negative about it.

My personal Braxton desert island discs are:

Dortmund 1976 (hatart) - recently back in print.  Everyone is on fire and
incredibly together, turning on a dime.  Amazing.

Willisau (quartet) 1991 (hatart) - excellent document of his later quartet
(crispell, hemingway, dresser, braxton).  the performances are great, and
the sound quality is such that you can really pay attention to the
contributions and interplay of the different instruments.

there is plenty more Braxton that I enjoy, but these two are what really
got me into his music (+ Circle).

cheers,
whit
np - the sound of a student taking a logic exam



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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:57:07 -0600
From: Herb Levy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Speaking of Crossroads Fwd: EI March Calendar

New Yorkers and visitors might be interested in some of the upcoming
performances at Phill Niblock's loft space. Britney/Robert Johnson
fans should note the title & concept of the Guy De Bievre performance
that kicks off this series.

>Experimental Intermedia
>The Twenty-eighth Anniversary of EI performances at 224 Centre Street, the
>Thirty-third Anniversary of the Founding of
>Experimental Intermedia, the Thirty-third Anniversary of the
>224 Centre Street loft, and, not least,
>The Twelfth Annual Festival  with no fancy name, Part Two (or B)
>                         March 2002
>
>Guy De Bievre   Monday 4
>Crossroads/Invocation for live microphone feedback and real time DSP
>"If you want to learn how to make songs yourself, you take your computer
>and you go to where the road crosses that way, where a crossroads is. Get
>there be sure to get there just a little 'fore 12 that night so you know
>you'll be there. You have your computer and be playing
>a piece there by yourself. A big black man will walk up there and take your
>computer and
>he'll install new drivers on it. And then he'll play a piece and hand it
>back to you. That's the way I learned to play anything I want"

>Jim O'Rourke    Tuesday 5
>. . . . and john travolta in "up<---->up"; film and "music" from o'rourke
>which will appeal to all who own demagnetizers, and other gardening
>enthusiasts

>Anne Wellmer    Wednesday 6
>travelling barefoot / mappings#3: journey with an interactive improvising
>map; with matt bauder sax + objects, chris dahlgren double bass +
>preparations, anne wellmer
>powerbooks; visuals: boris gerrets, justin bennett, aw; voices: vilem
>flusser, doretti neander

>Bolsa Ernesto de Sousa, a memorial fellowship named for the Portuguese
>Intermedia Artist, sponsored by the Luso-Americana Foundation and the
>Fundacao Calouste Gulbenkian, in Lisbon, coordinated by Isabel Alves,
>presents an intermedia performance:
>Elga Ferreira   Friday 8
>"UnReal", an interactive installation, where the user feels (by the senses)
>and interacts
>with a virtual environment that makes them feel their post-biologic
>condition

>Michael Northam         Sunday 10
>Acousmatician/improvisor/nomad presenting his extended sound lattices
>developed over the last year in Oregon and France, interjected with live
>manipulations of carillion, chimney cleaner, cactus, obsidian and other
>sonic debris

>Nicolas Collins         Monday 11
>Sled Dog -- music that shimmers, glimmers and shakes; with a brief but
>essential appearance by Robert Poss on acoustic guitar
>
>Our programs are supported by the New York State Council on the Arts,
>the Phaedrus Foundation, and The Aaron Copland Fund for Music
>224 Centre Street at Grand, Third Floor, N Y 10013       $4.99
>212 431 5127, 431 6430, fax [phone]        9pm
>         Experimental Intermedia, based in New York City, was founded in
>1968 by Elaine Summers to provide organizational support for artists
>working in intermedia forms. Throughout its history EI has produced more
>than 1000 events in its New York lofts. EI has also produced many
>intermedia events in other cities in the U.S. and other countries. EI now
>produces 20 events each season; manages its compact disc label, XI;
>develops and implements international projects in collaboration with
>like-minded organizations in Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany, Portugal
>and elsewhere
>Phill Niblock, Director
>Check our new, and always under construction, web sites:
>experimentalintermedia.org and XIrecords.org
>Activities of Experimental Intermedia v.z.w. Gent
>         In 1993, the American artist Phill Niblock opened a house with
>window gallery at Sassekaai 45, in Gent, Belgium. Quickly the EI Huis
>became a meeting place for many local and international artists and art
>lovers. In 1997, the co-ordinating committee - Phill Niblock, Maria
>Blondeel, Zjuul Devens, Lieve D'hondt and Ludo Engels - founded a Belgium
>organization, the Experimental Intermedia v.z.w. Gent. EI presents 4 or
>more installations a year in the windows. The installations can be seen
>from the street through two large windows: pedestrians, car drivers, bikers
>and people on the tram cannot help but give attention to the curved front
>with its two windows, bringing the art (often literally) onto the street.
>By exploring the space and the environment, the artist can surprise
>passers-by with his/her creation. EI has produced several projects in
>collaboration with other international artists' organizations like
>Kunstcentrum Sittard, Sittard (NL), MeX, Dortmund (D), ICAEE, Tokyo (JP),
>Voorkamer, Lier (B) and Logos Foundation, Gent (B).
>         The artists who have made installations, listed in chronological
>order, are: Maria Evelein, the Netherlands; Sigrid Lange, Germany; Michael
>Timpson, USA; Michael Vorfeld, Germany; Uli Vonbank-Schedler, Austria;
>Harald  Kubiczak, Germany; Alexandru Patatics, Romania and Gerd Schmedes,
>Germany; Mike Metz, USA and Penelope Wehrli, USA/ Germany (in collaboration
>with the Academy of Fine Arts, Gent); Beverly Piersol, USA/ Austria and
>Gertrude Moser-Wagner, Austria; Juana Valdes, Cuba/USA; Adri Huismann, The
>Netherlands; Kjell Bjoergeengen, Norway; Claudia Wissman, Germany; Claudia
>Schmacke, Germany; Marica Presic, Belgrade, Yugoslavia; Doris Koch,
>Germany; Esther Ferrer, France/Spain; Ludwika Ogorzelec, France/Poland;
>Peter Schoutsen, Netherlands; Jozef Cseres and Michael Murin, Slovakia;
>Steffen Muck, Germany; Maria Friberg and John Oivind Eggesboe, of Sweden
>and Denmark; Mirjam Berloth, The Netherlands; Beate Maria Woerz, Germany;
>Heike Kern, Germany ; Renate Hoffman Korth, Germany, and Sonia Rodrigues,
>Portugal/ England; Leonidas Martin Saura (Spain); Ursula Scherrer,
>Switzerland/USA; Jio Shimizu, Japan; Minoru Sato, Japan; Nina Kovacheva and
>Valentin Stefanoff, Bulgaria / France. Opening March 23, An Seebach,
>Dortmund, Germany
>Please visit the EI Gent website: www.experimentalintermedia.be
>XI Compact Disks currently available:
>Phill Niblock, Four Full Flutes, XI 101; Lois V Vierk, Simoom, XI 102; Guy
>Klucevsek, Flying Vegetables of the Apocalypse, XI 104; David Behrman,
>Unforeseen Events, XI 105; Tom Johnson, Music for 88, XI 106; Mary Jane
>Leach, Celestial Fires, XI 107; Fast Forward, Same Same, XI 108; Ellen
>Fullman, Body Music, XI 109; Jackson Mac Low, Open Secrets, XI 110; Phill
>Niblock, Music by, XI 111; Allison Cameron, Raw Sangudo, XI 112; Daniel
>Goode, Clarinet Songs, XI 113; Mary Ellen Childs, Kilter,  XI 114; Peter
>Zummo, Experimenting With Household Chemicals,  XI 116; The Logos Duo,
>Godfried-Willem Raes and Moniek Darge, Logos Works, XI 117; Annea Lockwood
>and Ruth Anderson, Sinopah, XI 118; Eliane Radigue, Trilogie de la Mort, XI
>119 (3 CDs for the price of two); Malcolm Goldstein, The Seasons:Vermont ,
>XI 120; Paul Panhuysen, Partitas for Long Strings,  XI 122; Tom Johnson,
>The Chord Catalogue,  XI 123; Ellen Band, 90% Post Consumer Sound,  XI 124;
>  Philip Corner,  40 years and one,  XI 125; New Release:  Richard Lainhart,
>Ten Thousand Shades of Blue, XI  115 (two CDs for the price of one)
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>$13 per CD for 6 or more CDs. In the U.S and Canada please include $2 for
>the first item and $.50 for each additional item for postage and handling.
>Outside the U.S. include $4  for the first item and $1.50 for each
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>sales tax. Send to XI Records, P.O. Box 1754, Canal Street Station, New
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>
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