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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:55:26 +0000 (WET)
From: Ricardo Reis <l43384@alfa.ist.utl.pt>
Subject: sensory tanks (NZC)
> I suppose there is a possibility of a musical interpretation of Goedel's
> first incompleteness theorem. Perhaps one could use the sound-cancelling
> setup of a sensory-deprivation tank. The feedback of the microphones
> and the speakers could represent the self-reference inherent in the
> proof of the theorem, and the phase inversion(*) could represent the denial
> of the provability of the statement that is undecidable. This should end
> up being quieter than 4'33'', which seems interesting; I don't know
> whether it's also musically interesting.
>
> * I don't understand very well how the tank setup works; forgive me if I
> am not using the proper term.
> Michael Slone
I've read in a fc book where they use this kind of tank to make
several experiments (can't remember the title though). a big metal box,
accustically isolated and with a sistem of temperature control. it is
filled till aprox. 2/3 with water and a percentagem of a substance is
mixed to make you float (can't remember what is it but if you mixed salt
the result would be the same). several types of monotoring equipment could
bt pluged in. the experimenter would enter the tank naked and stay afloat.
a lid would be closed down, isolating him from everything.
thought: if you had some speakers and turned naked city on... that
would make an interesting experiment :)))
greets,
Ricardo Reis
"Non Serviam"
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 06:16:16 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: Stockhausen (was spectral muzik.)
At 02:51 AM 1/30/02 EST, UFOrbK8@aol.com wrote:
>
>i would strongly reccomend getting the sing-circle recording (or, if
>you can find it, the paris version - i have only found it on out of print LP
>from the late 60s)
Two recordings of the Paris version are released on Stockhausen's label,
the original recording from 1969 (I think this was the one originally
released on dgg) and a newer one from 1982. I don't have this set, but
Stockhausen's releases typically are very well done and have extensive
notes -- this one has a 124-page booklet.
For those who checked out Stockhausen a while back and were repulsed by the
expense, you should check it out again. The 7-cd set of intuitive music,
From the Seven Days, which used to be around $180 IIRC, is now only $103
(although he now adds an additional handling charge, which used to be
included). His web site is at http://www.stockhausen.org. His cds are
available in the US from the Electronic Music Foundation, but I've ordered
directly from him a couple of times without incident.
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Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 07:00:44 EST
From: Poisonhead@aol.com
Subject: Re: Curlew
I have heard bits of the new Curlew album, "Meet the Curlews" and it sounds quite promising. Wayside Music is offering the Live disc, "Live in Berlin" for $4. Including Tom Cora and Wayne Horvitz. A great band!
Andrew
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:44:28 +0100
From: "Remco Takken" <r.takken@planet.nl>
Subject: Goofing up on The Book of Heads, Was: Re: godel, escher, bach, xenakis
ObZorn: I was introduced to Zorn via _The Book of Heads_
>>>>
but I will mention that after I finally figured out that the performer of
_The Book of Heads_ was *not* goofing up while trying to play the music, I
enjoyed it a lot more.
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In the liner notes to The Book of Heads, Zorn writes this:
...but I would also like to thank Jason Baker, whose facility on the
synclavier made this single day of recording (a culmination of over six
months of preparation) seem so effortless...
So maybe Ribot DID goof on the sessions, it was possible to edit the wrong
stuff outwith the Synclavier. See the Synclavier as a huge sampler/ editing
machine. Then think about the possibility of only playing snippets of the
original score, later to be edited into complete pieces.
It might well be possible that The Book of Heads is one of those cleverly
disguised sample album records;-)
On the side: Ribot re-recorded one of those BoH-pieces on his recent
ATLANTIC all-solo album Saints. I presume he did this live in the studio,
not that it matters: it's all great guitar stuff, no matter how it was
achieved.
Regards, Remco Takken
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:22:39 +0100
From: "Remco Takken" <r.takken@planet.nl>
Subject: Ralph Carney recommendations, Was: Re: The Gift/Ribot/Douglas
As
an aside, does anyone have any recommendations on Ralph Carney who's the sax
player on the Raindogs album? I see him listed for shows occasionally in
the bay area, CA and think about checking him out.
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You should!
There are two Steve Horowitz albums with his 'rock' group The Code. The
first is especially great, with speechlike rock chamber compositions, along
with some so'n'so rocknpoetry stuff. Other people playing on that album
include William Winant, Myles Boisen, Dan Plonsey and Dave Slusser. It's a
Bay Area record alright.
Steve Horowitz The Code (FOT/ Ponk Records 1993)
The Code: The Psychosexual Album (Ponk/ Fot 13, 1994)
They might be available at Beanbender's.
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